Looking for Skeptics

[bluesjnr]

...snip... I am looking to find something plausible to explain my recognition of these voices that mention all my family members.

Flaccon, please (if you would be so good) take minute or so to reflect before you answer the following questions and try and keep your response succinct and germane.

What would you accept as a "plausible" explanation other than the many suggestions here-in (we know you reject them)?

Are you willing to concede that it might not be what you insist it is and may well be something mundane and less Earth shattering as dead people communicating via sound files? A simple yes or no will suffice here.

 

[Daylightstar]

... It's too uncanny to be paredolia.

The product of your mind.

 

[Pixel42]

flaccon, are these images 'accurate and recognisable' to anyone other than yourself? And could you please post the images that tell a story?

She posted links to some images early in the thread. They were the most obvious examples of pareidolia that I have ever seen. Even the "Jesus in a toasted sandwich" examples that occasionally get into the press are more convincing.

 

[Cassidy]

flaccon, are these images 'accurate and recognisable' to anyone other than yourself? And could you please post the images that tell a story?

Also, are you using the real Christian names of your surviving family members or have you changed them to protect their privacy?

I have a son who feels that what is happening is too big for him. He knows nothing of the images or how they appear. I printed the latest one off and asked him "who's that" He said "Nan" immediately. I drove to Windermere and showed my brother, again yes immediately recognised. Also my daughter recognise. I took the image along with a photograph of my Mother to the GP, and the images match. I also took the image to Mums friend, and she cried.

Their privacy? a court-case would suit me Alice. I should be suing them. Out of respect only, their real names are protected yes, BUT over on youtube, the spirits don't protect their real names.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

She posted links to some images early in the thread. They were the most obvious examples of pareidolia that I have ever seen. Even the "Jesus in a toasted sandwich" examples that occasionally get into the press are more convincing.

Ah, I assumed they were new ones.

flaccon, would you mind posting the photo of your mother and the the 'spirit image' so we can compare them for ourselves?

 

[Cassidy]

She posted links to some images early in the thread. They were the most obvious examples of pareidolia that I have ever seen. Even the "Jesus in a toasted sandwich" examples that occasionally get into the press are more convincing.

I posted the images as they were found Pixel. I posted a mere few, and they were the first. I didn't get to finish the rest off. There is over 60 in a few inches of space, including family images, accurate family images.

 

[Pixel42]

Ah, I assumed they were new ones.

So do I, I just don't expect the new ones to be any more convincing than the old ones.

flaccon, would you mind posting the photo of your mother and the the 'spirit image' so we can compare them for ourselves?

Just the 'spirit image' will do, if she doesn't want to post a photo of her mother, for which I would not blame her. I confidently expect it to look just like my late mother too.

 

[Daylightstar]

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Their privacy? a court-case would suit me Alice. I should be suing them. Out of respect only, their real names are protected yes, BUT over on youtube, the spirits don't protect their real names.

"The spirits" being you.
When you claim to believe you hear their real names, your respect grinds to a sudden halt.

 

[Mojo]

Pixel I didn't say paredolia is a delusion. Since I discovered the word, of course its perfectly plausible, but doesn't account for accurate and recognisable images of my family members. Also doesn't account for the images that tell a story. It's too uncanny to be paredolia.

Yes, pareidolia accounts for all of these.

 

[Cassidy]

Ah, I assumed they were new ones.

flaccon, would you mind posting the photo of your mother and the the 'spirit image' so we can compare them for ourselves?

Posting anything is impossible on my computer. Out of respect for the family I doubt I'd want to show these images globally. The story images would mean little to you, as you don't believe a word I'm saying but yes, I'd love to show you a few latest ones, coupled with the story.

 

[Pixel42]

I posted the images as they were found Pixel. I posted a mere few, and they were the first.

They were textbook examples of pareidolia.

I didn't get to finish the rest off. There is over 60 in a few inches of space, including family images, accurate family images.

60 images in just a few inches of space cannot possibly be accurate images of anything.

How do you produce these images again? I've forgotten.

 

[Cassidy]

"The spirits" being you.
When you claim to believe you hear their real names, your respect grinds to a sudden halt.

I've always respected my family. Even those who are estranged. If the spirits call their real names out, that not disrespect on my behalf.

 

[Cassidy]

They were textbook examples of pareidolia.


60 images in just a few inches of space cannot possibly be accurate images of anything.

How do you produce these images again? I've forgotten.

I should count them, but 60+ is a safe guess. They are very accurate, and in millimetres. I don't produce these images, the spirit do it now within a tiny flick of paint.

 

[Pixel42]

I should count them, but 60+ is a safe guess. They are very accurate, and in millimetres. I don't produce these images, the spirit do it now within a tiny flick of paint.

Anything seen in a tiny flick of paint is a product of the imagination of the person who sees it.

This is my favourite Jesus one: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...9AC5E8FB1F493379B1ED00E1DB8E&selectedIndex=68

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Sorry no, I was refused at first. Mr Roberts sent me the silent recording I requested. Then jfisher did. After the comments went pear-shaped, anything from there was a waste of time.

Jfisher sent his file to Mr Roberts.

Jfisher then wrote an accurate description of what the file sounded like.

Mr Roberts phoned me and Ilistened into it several times, listening for any light interferences at all.. there was none. It was as described "A constant noise" (this told me that the spirits cannot go from computer to computer)

I then received it and played it through this computer and heared significant changes.

I contacted Mr Roberts to check his copy, and that too bore the same significant changes.

I contacted Alderbank, and was accused of being some kind of monster.

I ask you, would you A, continue to try here, or B, forget it.

Anything after that was pointless. Wouldn't you agree?

No, I wouldn't agree.

At first you did not get the type of recordings you wanted because you didn't manage to convey to people exactly what it was that you did want.

When it became clear that what you wanted was not truly silence but rather recordings with background noise, you were sent a recording of noise. Do you remember? It was far louder than you wanted, but people were only trying to help. When it finally became clear what you really wanted, a number of people sent you recordings of the type you wanted, but by then you had decided to give up.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Posting anything is impossible on my computer.

Well, you appear to be posting messages OK. Why is posting "anything" impossible? Perhaps your computer is broken after all.

I'd love to show you a few latest ones, coupled with the story.

Please consider that it might be more illuminating to post pictures without revealing any story, to see if anyone sees the same things you believe you do.

 

[chillzero]

I've always respected my family. Even those who are estranged.

On that topic - and while you are here, flaccon... can you please clarify for us what you consider it appropriate for anyone to discuss here publicly if you are absent? Other than the permission you gave Abaddon to discuss your meetings and phone calls, have you given anyone permission to discuss private, off-forum conversations about your personal life and activities?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Having seen some of flaccon's previous pictures, I have a suggestion:

Post a few here, but before you do, randomly rotate them, and then see if we can at least agree which way up they should be even if we can't agree on what is depicted.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Alternatively we could have another try at letting the spirits change a recording.

I can probably find the two sound files I sent you and scrappy in July. Scrappy listened to them a couple of times and believed one had changed but i was able to confirm that it hadn't. You, on the other hand, said in August that you thought you had deleted them.

Would you like to try again?

 

[Cassidy]

Flaccon, please (if you would be so good) take minute or so to reflect before you answer the following questions and try and keep your response succinct and germane.

What would you accept as a "plausible" explanation other than the many suggestions here-in (we know you reject them)?

Are you willing to concede that it might not be what you insist it is and may well be something mundane and less Earth shattering as dead people communicating via sound files? A simple yes or no will suffice here.

I insist without doubt that I et'al, hear our Father's voice. There is no plausible explanation I can think of for this.

Dead = lifeless, but they speak so they aren't exactly dead. I have to choose "No"