Looking for Skeptics

[Mojo]

I am merely respecting their privacy, and their problems.

You haven't really said anything about their communications with you, or "their problems", whatever those might be, so it wouldn't be infringing upon their privacy or breaking any sort of confidence to say what "contest" you have attempted to enter.

What "contest" are you talking about?

 

[Daylightstar]

I actually do hear "Tracey" in that clip, but I was primed for it before listening, and as we all know, this can change what one hears. On the other hand, the inflection is NOT what one would expect in shouting the name "Tracey" the accent is heavily on the second syllable. ...

A "Tra-see" like sound is certainly suggested, especially if you ignore the word (not a syllable) in between the "Tra" and "see" and the word following "see".
The "Tra" sound may likely be a "can". There are no syllables but words.

Do you still hear "Tracey" in the recording?

 

[Alice Shortcake]

I find the different view points interesting/plausible.

But you don't find them plausible - you reject anything not in accord with your need to believe in these voices.

I'm clueless regarding diamond rings for now, so it's hardly worth a mention until I can identify what has actually happened to it.

What appears to have happened to it/them, and how do you know the damage has anything to do with spirits?

I'm also comfortably back home after hearing that the spirits blew my etheral attacker to bits. Interesting article "Alien life found above the skies over Chester" I'm not saying anything more than it certainly got me thinking.

flaccon, using aliens to explain the behaviour of spirits is like using fairies to explain the behaviour of unicorns.

Although they appear as "bystanders" to the unsuspecting listener, it is indeed my Father, and bearing good news too.

What exactly is this 'good news'? Is it connected with the great revelation you were promised?

I have had a response from youtube members, who are aware that something odd is happening within their recordings. I caught one scaremongerer out who stages his hotel room to appear "haunted" He uses the same silent audio for 3 separate incidences caught on camera. So when one clip altered, it altered all 3 of his clips. Busted Shouldn't actually mess about with the paranormal at all.

flaccon, do you understand that YouTube is crawling with crackpots and practical jokers? Has it occurred to you that the people who got in touch with you might be...well, crackpots and practical jokers?

Alice Fruitcake, I am neither mental, dramatic nor trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes.

My name isn't Alice Fruitcake but I'll overlook this little slip.

We have a right to know whats going on.

If there is some sort of sublime spiritual revelation which you have been chosen to share with the world, don't you think we have the right to expect something better than - to put it charitably - ambiguous recorded noises? If the spirits are able to use technology to this extent why don't they do so properly?

My church pinpoints my daughter as being responsible for the hauntings, whilst another denomination tells me it's satan playing tricks.

These churches cannot help you. The one that blames Satan is criminally irresponsible.

Regarding a contest. If my Father is correct, it may close before my challenge is accepted. I await further replies but it isn't looking too good.

I'm totally baffled by this. The contest may close before your challenge is accepted? Who's running this contest?

Regarding the GP. His letter explains "how it was" in February. If this letter was to be updated, I believe it would not be as vague today. Since Mr Roberts computer altered in June, it isn't "noise suggestive of words" anymore. Sentences are heard in my Fathers voice.

Complete, coherent sentences of the kind you mentioned at the very beginning of this thread? Could you please share these recordings with us?

It also isn't "2 images, one good and one bad" there are over 60 now. I found their latest images incredible. Paredolia or not, the images related to everything I'm hearing, experiencing and requesting.

Yes, the images relate to everything you're hearing, experiencing and requesting BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PAREIDOLIA WORKS. You still don't understand this. Catholics see images of the Virgin Mary in streaky windows, tree bark and oil stains on concrete because they are culturally conditioned to see images of the Virgin Mary. People interested in history and the arts see Trotsky in a shower curtain and Shakespeare in a marble fire surround. You see (and hear) what reflects your belief system and interests.

By the way, are you using the real Christian names of your family members?

 

[IXP]

A "Tra-see" like sound is certainly suggested, especially if you ignore the word (not a syllable) in between the "Tra" and "see" and the word following "see".
The "Tra" sound may likely be a "can". There are no syllables but words.

Do you still hear "Tracey" in the recording?

Listening to it on another machine, through speakers instead of headphone, it became much clearer, and it sounds like "Can you see it?" which fits very nicely with the context.

IXP

 

[Orphia Nay]

What "contest" is it?

What contest?

What "contest" are you talking about?

Who's running this contest?

What contest?

 

[trustbutverify]

When I get to prove that my voice is indeed alongside my deceased Father's voice, I'd say that's a good part of the mystery wrapped up.

 

[Pixel42]

When I get to prove that my voice is indeed alongside my deceased Father's voice, I'd say that's a good part of the mystery wrapped up.

I can think of little more mysterious than the voice of a living woman (presumably with no memory of having said what's on the recording) appearing together with the voice of her deceased father on a clip someone uploaded to youtube, and would be interested in what precisely you think it would "wrap up".

(I have to sign out now but I look forward to the suggestion Pixel mentions)

Go on then, post a link to a youtube clip you haven't yet listened to.

Another interesting thing to try would be for someone here to make a video file, record its M5 hash, and then upload it to youtube and post the link. Once flaccon has listened to it and told us what she hears, the originator could then M5 hash the original file again and see if it has indeed changed. I realise this is essentially a repeat of the experiment already done earlier in the thread, but flaccon doesn't appear to have taken the result of that one on board.

 

[pakeha]

Indeed.

flaccon, why don't you do the same thing for us as you've been doing for scrappy, i.e. post a link to a random youtube clip that we can listen to, then listen to it yourself and tell us what you can hear. We can then listen to it again and see if new sounds/voices have indeed appeared, as you and scrappy are claiming.

I noticed even the simple experiment proposed above has ben sidestepped, along with the requests to identify the contest flaccon claims to have entered.
Never mind, like the mystery of the damaged rings, it'll eventually be solved one way or another.

 

[trustbutverify]

Another interesting thing to try would be for someone here to make a video file, record its M5 hash, and then upload it to youtube and post the link. Once flaccon has listened to it and told us what she hears, the originator could then M5 hash the original file again and see if it has indeed changed. I realise this is essentially a repeat of the experiment already done earlier in the thread, but flaccon doesn't appear to have taken the result of that one on board.

From what I can make out, the OP has previously claimed that digitally identical audio files playback differently after being altered by ghosts, rendering a hash comparison useless. Darn all the luck.

 

[Cassidy]

I'm more interested in what he would say.


You mean like the one we've been doing for you, whose findings you keep rejecting?

We never got to do a proper investigation here, when the spirits refused to play card tricks I was told to go away and find out what they will do. That's when I started asking for folk to send me a silent file. At first no one would but Mr Roberts did.

If you recall, Alderbank showed up here (I had an hours notice) he came with a deck of cards. He later wrote in a comment.. "Flaccon referred me to a message like "We don't want the card tricks"" (This message was on a recording dating back to 2012)

I'm quite taken aback that Alderbank does not see anything odd about a voice coming from nowhere saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" In his opinion there is nothing strange about that either. In my opinion, despite my supposed insanity, I'm sane enough to know that that isn't normal. I think it should have been mentioned.

Any rejection I make with possible answers, I hope has not been taken in a bad way. I am looking to find something plausible to explain my recognition of these voices that mention all my family members. Delusional has long been excluded.

 

[Ampulla of Vater]

We never got to do a proper investigation here, when the spirits refused to play card tricks I was told to go away and find out what they will do. That's when I started asking for folk to send me a silent file. At first no one would but Mr Roberts did.

If you recall, Alderbank showed up here (I had an hours notice) he came with a deck of cards. He later wrote in a comment.. "Flaccon referred me to a message like "We don't want the card tricks"" (This message was on a recording dating back to 2012) I'm quite taken aback that Alderbank does not see anything odd about a voice coming from nowhere saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" In his opinion there is nothing strange about that. In my opinion, despite my supposed insanity, I'm sane enough to know that that wasn't normal. I think it should have been mentioned.

I'm not a regular here, but I do believe you are remembering incorrectly. Many people sent you silent files, including IIRC Caleb, who is some sort of sound specialist. Moreover, your appointment with Alderbank was scheduled through posts on this forum.

Please don't rewrite history, it is hard enough to keep up with the current ever-changing claims.

 

[Pixel42]

I am looking to find something plausible to explain my recognition of these voices that mention all my family members. Delusional has long been excluded.

For the umpteenth time: pareidolia is (a) not a delusion and (b) a perfectly plausible explanation.

 

[Cassidy]

From what I can make out, the OP has previously claimed that digitally identical audio files playback differently after being altered by ghosts, rendering a hash comparison useless. Darn all the luck.

But on a more positive note, the voice that now emits from Mr Roberts computer, does not distort after transference. If he can send to me, and I receive them undistorted, he can send to others, for instance Box.com.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Another interesting thing to try would be for someone here to make a video file, record its M5 hash, and then upload it to youtube and post the link. Once flaccon has listened to it and told us what she hears, the originator could then M5 hash the original file again and see if it has indeed changed. I realise this is essentially a repeat of the experiment already done earlier in the thread, but flaccon doesn't appear to have taken the result of that one on board.

That's an excellent suggestion.

 

[Cassidy]

For the umpteenth time: pareidolia is (a) not a delusion and (b) a perfectly plausible explanation.

Pixel I didn't say paredolia is a delusion. Since I discovered the word, of course its perfectly plausible, but doesn't account for accurate and recognisable images of my family members. Also doesn't account for the images that tell a story. It's too uncanny to be paredolia.

 

[trustbutverify]

But on a more positive note, the voice that now emits from Mr Roberts computer, does not distort after transference. If he can send to me, and I receive them undistorted, he can send to others, for instance Box.com.

I don't understand what any of this is supposed to mean.

What O B J E C T I V E standard can be applied to your claim of ghost lectures?

 

[Pixel42]

Pixel I didn't say paredolia is a delusion. Since I discovered the word, of course its perfectly plausible, but doesn't account for accurate and recognisable images of my family members. Also doesn't account for the images that tell a story. It's too uncanny to be paredolia.

flaccon, I have listened to the clips. I do not hear anything remotely resembling what you say you hear.

The ad for Rock-n-Roll Heaven is an ad for Rock-n-Roll Heaven. It doesn't mention your name, or tell you to die.

The Birmingham clip is someone getting excited about something unusual he's seeing in the sky.

The Grimsby clip is bystanders chatting as someone films some strange cloud formations. The woman's voice is young and has a Northern accent, the man's is older but so faint that it is impossible for anyone to recognise it, let alone make out any of the words he's saying.

What you think you hear is a product of your imagination. It is pareidolia.

 

[Daylightstar]

That's an excellent suggestion.

... and pointless:

... MD hash aside, that clip bears no resemblance to its initial description.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

flaccon, are these images 'accurate and recognisable' to anyone other than yourself? And could you please post the images that tell a story?

Also, are you using the real Christian names of your surviving family members or have you changed them to protect their privacy?

 

[Cassidy]

I'm not a regular here, but I do believe you are remembering incorrectly. Many people sent you silent files, including IIRC Caleb, who is some sort of sound specialist. Moreover, your appointment with Alderbank was scheduled through posts on this forum.

Please don't rewrite history, it is hard enough to keep up with the current ever-changing claims.

Sorry no, I was refused at first. Mr Roberts sent me the silent recording I requested. Then jfisher did. After the comments went pear-shaped, anything from there was a waste of time.

Jfisher sent his file to Mr Roberts.

Jfisher then wrote an accurate description of what the file sounded like.

Mr Roberts phoned me and Ilistened into it several times, listening for any light interferences at all.. there was none. It was as described "A constant noise" (this told me that the spirits cannot go from computer to computer)

I then received it and played it through this computer and heared significant changes.

I contacted Mr Roberts to check his copy, and that too bore the same significant changes.

I contacted Alderbank, and was accused of being some kind of monster.

I ask you, would you A, continue to try here, or B, forget it.

Anything after that was pointless. Wouldn't you agree?