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scrappy said:
The spirits stepped up another gear last week, wrecked her diamond rings. Yet another claim made by the spirits, but this one cant be explained away as paredolia.
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You mean yet another claim made by Tracey, who is known to be unreliable, and also a claim passed on second-hand by you, who does not apply critical thinking to Tracey's claims.

How many diamond rings?
What sort of damage was done to them?
What has Tracey been up to lately, besides watching UFO videos?
 
There was something on television recently about loss of hearing with age. Specifically, higher frequency loss. Do you suppose we might "hear" different messages based, not just on our expectations, but also variations in our ability to hear different frequencies?
 
scrappy said:
...She's only entered into the challenge out of desperation. she doesn't care for the money. The spirits stepped up another gear last week, wrecked her diamond rings. Yet another claim made by the spirits, but this one cant be explained away as paredolia.
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What challenge is this, scrappy?
 
scrappy said:
To be fair, whats being said on youtube makes sense to Flaccon, her family members, and their present situation.


She has stopped writing on youtube since learning how to down load clips to her computer. The last clip I know off is http://youtu.be/ifpUK-vjOQk titled " ufo siting Birmingham UK" by "MrAbdiman" they are calling her family names out on the clips(at 20 seconds)
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I can't believe this discussion is still going on.:covereyes
 
Jack by the hedge said:
That's a good question but I reckon the chances of scrappy having emailed to ask them are about similar to the chances of that Birmingham "UFO" being full of aliens.
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I'm sure you're right. I might email them myself, if I can think of a way to pose the question without sounding like a raving lunatic.

Orphia Nay said:
Do you mean she's officially applied for the JREF Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge?
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More likely to be the ASKE one. I'd be interested to see the protocol she's proposing to use.

ETA: I just sent the following email to Rock and Roll Heaven (my name and email address redacted)

Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:17:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: [redacted]
Reply-To: [redacted]
Subject: Question about your radio advertisement
To: "sales@rock-n-rollheaven.com" <sales@rock-n-rollheaven.com>

I'm sorry to bother you with this but I'm involved in a discussion on an online forum in which this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJKP5SEeM7o (Preview)

has been posted, and there is a dispute about what the voices on the radio which you can hear in the background (you need to turn the volume right up) at the beginning of the recording are saying.

Can you confirm that this is an ad for your store? If so is it your ad exactly as recorded, or are there differences? If there is a transcript or clear recording of the ad you could send me or point me to that would be appreciated.

I realise this is an odd request, but the online discussion that prompted it is very odd to say the least. A response may help at least one person to retain their sanity.

Thank you,

[redacted]
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If I get a reply I'll post it.
 
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scrappy said:
It wasn't there first time I played it...
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Yes it was, it was just that flaccon hadn't told you what you were supposed too be hearing so you didn't notice it.
...and its a different sound to the blokes voices.
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No, it's in the voice of one of the men who was talking more quietly earlier in the clip. It sounds different because he has become excited.
 
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Anyway, scrappy, now that you're back perhaps you can answer a question i asked you back in September. You claim that flaccon "is trying to expose probably one of the greatest revelations in mankind". What is this "great revelation"?
 
Scrappy, I'm wondering why you decided to start posting in this thread again after months of absence. Why are you here?
 
scrappy said:
Sorry (confusing) I'll try that again.
A. Tracey picks out a random clip on youtube.
B. She sends me the link and I play it through my computer. When I am certain that there are no suspicious background words, Tracey then listens to it on her computer.
C) Once its played through her computer, the words appear.
D) When I replay it, there are obvious words being spoken that were not there previously.
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Between B and D does Tracey tell you what words are "spoken" and at what point in the recording?
 
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I've contacted Mr Abdiman about the words spoken on his video.

Scrappy, could you please tell us which prize flaccon has applied for and what happened to her diamond rings?
 
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AdMan said:
Scrappy, I'm wondering why you decided to start posting in this thread again after months of absence. Why are you here?
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Remarkably I think he really did expect that this latest example of his and flaccon's ability to fool themselves would be accepted as genuine evidence of a real phenomenon.

Alice Shortcake said:
I've contacted Mr Abdiman about the words spoken on his video.
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Excellent. That's definitive answers hopefully on the way for what are presumably the two best examples of this latest claimed phenomenon, given that they're the two flaccon and scrappy have chosen to share with us.
 
Pixel42 said:
Remarkably I think he really did expect that this latest example of his and flaccon's ability to fool themselves would be accepted as genuine evidence of a real phenomenon.
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I have a real difficulty with this idea. Unfortunately, I cannot find or present any argument against that conclusion.

And I tried, I really did. The whole thing is long on unevidenced claims and assertions, yet completely vacant on anything tangible.
 
scrappy said:
UNBELIEVABLE. The contest she has entered will decide.
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AdMan said:
What contest is that?
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scrappy said:
...She's only entered into the challenge out of desperation. she doesn't care for the money.
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Orphia Nay said:
Do you mean she's officially applied for the JREF Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge?
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The spirits don't just add sounds to 'silent' recordings and other people's YouTube clips, you know. They have their own radio stations and love to run contests for humans to guess what their secret sounds really are.

Perhaps this is the contest flaccon has entered: http://www.spirit1053.com/secretsound/ She could win $1890 ( I know she doesn't care for the money)

Or maybe this one: http://www.spirit1059.com/SPIRIT1059SecretSound.aspx She could win $890.

Look, here's one near where she lives - she could win £600 http://www.spiritfm.net/secret-sound.php

No good me entering, all I ever hear is whistles and squeaks, but I can understand why flaccon and Scrappy would be in with a good chance.

UNBELIEVABLE?
 
Alderbank said:
The spirits don't just add sounds to 'silent' recordings and other people's YouTube clips, you know. They have their own radio stations and love to run contests for humans to guess what their secret sounds really are.

Perhaps this is the contest flaccon has entered: http://www.spirit1053.com/secretsound/ She could win $1890 ( I know she doesn't care for the money)

Or maybe this one: http://www.spirit1059.com/SPIRIT1059SecretSound.aspx She could win $890.

Look, here's one near where she lives - she could win £600 http://www.spiritfm.net/secret-sound.php

No good me entering, all I ever hear is whistles and squeaks, but I can understand why flaccon and Scrappy would be in with a good chance.

UNBELIEVABLE?
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"whistles and squeaks"? Well, there's your problem right there. You are tuning into Mouse Radio. That's just white noise. :covereyes
 
Orphia Nay said:
You mean yet another claim made by Tracey, who is known to be unreliable, and also a claim passed on second-hand by you, who does not apply critical thinking to Tracey's claims.

How many diamond rings?
What sort of damage was done to them?
What has Tracey been up to lately, besides watching UFO videos?
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How do you arrive at her being unreliable? Put it this way Orphia, despite the ridicule and hurt, she'll not let anyone down.

I've not seen the rings yet , but seeing them wouldn't tell me much anyway. She said one of them was smashed up inside, and the other is cracked. It was after she'd posted her claim "communicating with spirits" The spirits told her to claim special fingers and break a diamond at the contest. Then they told her to check her diamonds, and they are wrecked. She went straight back to the GP. She downloaded several clips and played them to him, clips with her Fathers voice mentioning the family, special fingers, and including her own voice. She showed him the diamonds and showed him how clear her Father has gotten on my computer. The voices match. She's not having a good time with this you know, she's terrified.

However she found time to go metal detecting, prepared and had a carpet laid, enjoyed hers, her sons and her grandsons birthdays, painted the living room & hall, harvested the veg, and visited her bro in Windermere. All normal stuff.

Heres a thought, Alderbank knows what Tracey sounds like, also, there was a recording with Tracey's voice on it that was uploaded to box.com. There's a youtube clip with Traceys voice on it, alongside her deceased Fathers voice, clear as day.
 
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