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[Pixel42]

She needs as much evidence as possible.

She needs some objective evidence. So far she has none, and all attempts to help her obtain some have either been rejected or proved fruitless.

The spirits are more than just voices on computer/s.

The spirits aren't even voices on computers, they are figments of the imagination. At least, no-one has so far offered any good reason to believe otherwise.

 

[trustbutverify]

She needs as much evidence as possible. The spirits are more than just voices on computer/s.

There is no evidence.

There are no "spirits".

 

[scrappy]

Then participate in this forum on your own authority, and in your own right. Stop living your time here through another member's eyes. Particularly when that member has not give permission for you to divulge personal information, and they appear to have decided not to post here any further themself.

Stop telling us what someone else is doing or has done - it's not for you to say, and we have no corroboration, and additionally, you have not engendered a great deal of trust for us to accept your word, given the progress of this thread to date.


This has nothing to do with the posts responded to.

I feel its my right to support the truth. I have her Father speaking to me and I'm searching out the evidence myself, the voices match and I'm not afraid to say so.

 

[Mojo]

I feel its my right to support the truth.

Perhaps you can do so by answering some of the questions you have been asked, for example by telling us what contest flaccon has entered and what the "great revelation" that flaccon is trying to expose is.

And where all the apostrophes, which used to be in such plentiful supply in this thread, have gone.

 

[chillzero]

I feel its my right to support the truth. I have her Father speaking to me and I'm searching out the evidence myself, the voices match and I'm not afraid to say so.

That's fine - to explain your own experiences.

Stop telling us personal things about flaccon, her spare time activities, her GP appointments and so on.

 

[chillzero]

Can you what tell us what her GP's involvement is in all this Scrappy? Does she make an appointment to see her GP and then play back recordings to him/her. Is the GP willing to give a written statement that supports Flaccon's assertions she is being haunted. Could you give as much information on this as possible as your posts are a bit vague.

It really is not scrappy's place to divulge any of that. It may be frustrating, but if flaccon has excused herself, then no personal information about her should be coming from anyone else without her permission.

ETA: Her written and verifiable permission

 

[greybeard]

It really is not scrappy's place to divulge any of that. It may be frustrating, but if flaccon has excused herself, then no personal information about her should be coming from anyone else without her permission.

ETA: Her written and verifiable permission

Point taken. It's just that both Flaccon and Scrappy come out with vague statements hoping that people are impressed by them. Saying that the GP says he/she can hear things on the tapes could mean anything.

 

[scrappy]

Point taken. It's just that both Flaccon and Scrappy come out with vague statements hoping that people are impressed by them. Saying that the GP says he/she can hear things on the tapes could mean anything.

I'm not trying to impress anyone. I'm just saying it as it unfolds

 

[bluesjnr]

Point taken. It's just that both Flaccon and Scrappy come out with vague statements hoping that people are impressed by them. Saying that the GP says he/she can hear things on the tapes could mean anything.

This failing has been challenged ad nauseum herein. You are wasting your time.

 

[scrappy]

This failing has been challenged ad nauseum herein. You are wasting your time.

Where please is the failure? Her GP wrote a good letter stating her situation, in hope it may help her.

 

[bluesjnr]

I'm not trying to impress anyone. I'm just saying it as it unfolds

Just answer the question regarding the competition. Just answer the question regarding the great revelation that awaits us.

How about just one, checkable fact.................

 

[bluesjnr]

Where please is the failure? Her GP wrote a good letter stating her situation, in hope it may help her.

Look at my last post to see two of YOUR recent failings. It's you to whom I refer.

 

[scrappy]

Perhaps you can do so by answering some of the questions you have been asked, for example by telling us what contest flaccon has entered and what the "great revelation" that flaccon is trying to expose is.

And where all the apostrophes, which used to be in such plentiful supply in this thread, have gone.

I cant answer this

 

[pakeha]

...The spirits told her to claim special fingers and break a diamond at the contest. ..

scrappy has also neglected to tell us what contest flaccon has entered, whether she's told him what to listen for when he listens the second time, how her GP reacted to her last visit ... he always seem to manage to leave out the most interesting and vital information.

I'd settle for information about the contest, which is something in the public domain and verifiable.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I called her up first thing this morning to ask permission to release hers and her Fathers voice on a youtube clip, and then compare the voices with the voice that comes from my computer. The voices match.

She didn't have to tell me where to listen, or what to listen out for no. I recognised her voice without a prompt, as did her GP. The voices match.

I have her Father speaking to me and I'm searching out the evidence myself, the voices match and I'm not afraid to say so.

It's not clear at all what voices you are comparing.

So far all I can glean is that you have some kind of recording on which you recognise flaccons voice and another voice you believe to be her late father (although I don't know whether you ever actually heard that person speak in life) and another unspecified source which you believe has the same voices. Oh, and a claim that her GP agrees that one of the voices on some unspecified recording is flaccon's voice. When we combine that with your eagerly demonstrated propensity to hear words in recordings that are quite obviously not what's actually being said, then it's not exactly world shaking proof of anything, is it?

What, pray tell, is the evidence which you are "searching out" yourself?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I cant answer this

Are you allowed to tell us which meaning of "can't" you intended?

Do you mean you don't know what contest flaccon has entered, or do you mean that you do know but you do not have permission to tell us, or you have chosen not to for some other reason?

 

[scrappy]

There is no evidence.

There are no "spirits".

so how is it that her deceased father shouts out in youtube clips? Its the same voice that emits from my computer. How is it that traceys voice is shouting out on youtube clips? why does her GP support her? and 3 family members who know without a doubt what their own father sounds like.

I requested to observe one of her GP appointments so I could get an angle on it, and she obliged this. I detected no appeasement, and no incompetence.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

so how is it that her deceased father shouts out in youtube clips?

He doesn't.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

why does her GP support her?

Because he wants her to get better. It seems that flaccon's health has improved markedly in the last year or so, and she put this down to the support of well-meaning spirits. Her GP may well feel there's no advantage to her in challenging such thoughts.

You are using "support" in a very misleading way. The inference might be that her GP believes her spirit stories and encourages her to believe them. Having seen the wording of the GP's letter, I do not believe that is true.

 

[scrappy]

He doesn't.

I can at least identify her voice, and its alongside a voice that she claims is her fathers voice. It is also the same voice that emits from my computer.