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pakeha said:
flaccon has a 2,000 year old garment in her possession?
How very interesting.
Has she contacted any museums or laboratories to confirm this dating?
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That's a great idea, pakeha! I'd strongly advise against bringing the cloth to any kind of carbon 14 test centers, however. When they come back with an answer that the cloth is a linen table runner from Debenhams, it'll just mean that they're secretly jealous that the cloth is really 2000 years old.
 
pakeha said:
flaccon has a 2,000 year old garment in her possession?
How very interesting.
Has she contacted any museums or laboratories to confirm this dating?
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torifrog said:
I doubt she is actually claiming that. Rather, I suspect she is claiming that Jesus somehow made it appear SHE was bleeding, but that if the bloodstains are tested they'll be found not to be hers.

I'm a bit scared I seem to understand her claims better than some others here. Maybe it's cos I still have "fresh eyes"?
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“Be not afeard; the isle is full of noises,
Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears; and sometime voices,
That, if I then had waked after long sleep,
Will make me sleep again: and then, in dreaming,
The clouds methought would open, and show riches
Ready to drop upon me; that, when I waked,
I cried to dream again.”

― William Shakespeare, The Tempest
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Scordatura said:
...Her posts are filled with extraneous information, vague answers, deflection, etc., yet she managed to create an image of someone who's sincere, a little naive and who should be handled gently. She even got Alderbank to visit her in an effort to help. That's pretty powerful stuff....
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Not once, but twice.
Welcome to the forum, Scordatura.


The Norseman said:
... I'd strongly advise against bringing the cloth to any kind of carbon 14 test centers, however. When they come back with an answer that the cloth is a linen table runner from Debenhams, it'll just mean that they're secretly jealous that the cloth is really 2000 years old.
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Of course.
I'd be willing to bet those spooky science places are infested with bitter loseres secretly manipulated by cats!
 
Stop with the strawman guys, where did she claim that the cloth was actually 2000 years old?
 
Scordatura said:
One of her stories was about the knots in a pine door in her house glowing, which I think she mentioned here, and another was about an image of the devil in a "fresh condensation mark" on the frame of a picture of her mother.
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Any miraculous pictures of Len Bishop Brennan in the skirting board?
 
I'm sure she mentioned the glowing knots earlier in the thread and again, I'm sure she mentioned that she had found resolution with regard to that part of her life.

You'll forgive me if I don't trawl through the thread to find the posts in question.

What I'm trying to say is that this is not new news and shouldn't really shine any fresh light on flaccon or her state of mind.
 
laca said:
Stop with the strawman guys, where did she claim that the cloth was actually 2000 years old?
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My bad, laca.
I assumed that Alderbank's report of flaccon claiming to have a cloth stained with Jesus' blood would have placed the artefact to about 33CE.
 
pakeha said:
My bad, laca.
I assumed that Alderbank's report of flaccon claiming to have a cloth stained with Jesus' blood would have placed the artefact to about 33CE.
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Best not to assume anything where flaccon and her cohorts are concerned.

Haven't you learned anything?:D
 
asydhouse said:
Oh. That makes me feel a bit embarrassed, and sort of belittled. Looking back over this page, it looks like most of it is written by me. Do you think Ladewig is saying I've gone too far? Should I have kept my mouth shut?

Whatever, I will from now on. Sorry.

:o

:boxedin:
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No, no.

When I say "you kids have fun" I am not trying to imply childishness. I am saying that I hope you all realize this thread is more of a game than an honest debate or fruitful discussion.

............

I just read this page and can see that I missed absolutely nothing by skipping the last 50 pages.

I am not sure who is winning, but I am pretty sure the score is the same now as it was at the end of June.
 
abaddon said:
Ah, DLS, you ask the question. Don't hold your breath for an actual answer. My guess? Probably. But Alderbank may be a better port of call, as it were.
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Actually, I wasn't asking a question but rather making a statement as I do not have any expectation of flaccon providing an answer to the statement if it was in the form of a question.
The question is implied of course, and I won't be holding my breath ;)
 
Daylightstar said:
Actually, I wasn't asking a question but rather making a statement as I do not have any expectation of flaccon providing an answer to the statement if it was in the form of a question.
The question is implied of course, and I won't be holding my breath ;)
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My inner cynic tells me that she will likely simply abandon ship here just like she did on UM 8 years ago. Alderbank is an asset in this regard. Unless flaccon moves house. :D
 
Per Abaddon's link, I see that over at Unexplained Mysteries.com, in 2005 Flaccon started a thread with the title "Photographic proof ? (Mark of a devil)", and wrote about a picture of her mother (recently passed) with a bit of moisture on it in the shape of devil horns.

A member of that forum replied:

You need to do two things so that we skeptics can actually evaluate your claim:

1. Post the picture on-line, if possible, to be examined for fraud, problems in the photography, and the like.

2. If you believe the photo 'changed,' show us (if possible) a 'before' and 'after' copy.

You are basically throwing this account at us as if it were real proof, when it is not; all we have is your word.​

And Flaccon replied, amidst a lot of other gibberish, hand-wringing and excuses:

No amount of uploads will prove anything and I dont expect it to.​

:rolleyes:

The pattern is weirdly familiar.
 
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