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[trustbutverify]

Judging from some of her youtube comments, the OP also seems to be a fan of the chemtrails and Harp conspiracy nonsense. It wouldn't shock me if she turned out to be a truther and alien-lizard believer, which would be standard for this type of mentality.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Most of her recent youtube comments have been on videos with the word "strange" in the title.

 

[pakeha]

How is making comments on those youtube videos better than going to the Press?

 

[Apology]

Seems like she trawls through Youtube listening for her voices. Maybe she believes that this will be evidence for us. I realise some of her comments are translation of what she hears. I only looked at a couple but in one she posts R.R. Maybe she's slightly rattled by our disbelief and is now enforcing her ideas for herself. I feel very sad about her really and wish she would find something healthier to do with her time. If she went for a walk that she hadn't been told to take by the spirits maybe she could start changing her focus. But then the spirits have chosen her, given her special fingers and to give up being special is a hard thing to do. She just wants the rest of us to acknowledge how special she is.

Welcome to the forums, Patchwork Moth. That's a very cute user name

How is making comments on those youtube videos better than going to the Press?

When you comment on youtube you can't hear the people laughing at you, I suppose.

 

[Scordatura]

Here is the link to flaccon's youtube comments that you requested:

[Had to deleted the link - not enough posts yet ]

I don't have any good answers for you about what could be done to help flaccon, Scordatura. I just wanted to say that you're a very kind person to be so concerned about her. I have the urge to give you a giant e-hug right now. Maybe Alderbank could check on her for us. Alderbank's not a miracle worker though.

I'm not sure if I welcomed you to the forums before Scordatura. If not, then welcome aboard, we could always use another thoughtful and caring person around here.

Thank you for your kind words and warm welcome, Apology, and for the nice e-hug

Scordatura

 

[Scordatura]

If it's any consolation, it appears as if she's been at this for years. Her activity may be at some sort of peak right now, but it's hard to tell whether this is unusual or just what she's been like everyday for the past decade. She does have friends who are hopefully watching out for her. It sounds like at least some members of her family are fed up with the behavior (meaning it's gone on long enough for them to get fed up---indicating that this might just be normal for her).

Some of it does seem alarming, but if alarming is "everyday normal" to flaccon, then so be it. But it's no way to live and there is help available if she seeks it.

Ward

That's a good point; I hadn't really thought about how long flaccon's been living with her spirits, so yeah, what's weird and alarming to me is probably well within her comfort zone. Makes me feel better - in a bizarre kind of way

Seems like she trawls through Youtube listening for her voices. Maybe she believes that this will be evidence for us. I realise some of her comments are translation of what she hears. I only looked at a couple but in one she posts R.R. Maybe she's slightly rattled by our disbelief and is now enforcing her ideas for herself. I feel very sad about her really and wish she would find something healthier to do with her time. If she went for a walk that she hadn't been told to take by the spirits maybe she could start changing her focus. But then the spirits have chosen her, given her special fingers and to give up being special is a hard thing to do. She just wants the rest of us to acknowledge how special she is.

Flaccon stockpiling "evidence" makes sense, and leaving comments is an easy way to create a log. Some of those comments do suggest a "look at me" behavior so maybe it's a little bit of everything you said.

I just can't understand why anyone would choose to live in a cramped world with a bunch of spirits who mumble all the time

Scordatura

 

[Cassidy]

That's a good point; I hadn't really thought about how long flaccon's been living with her spirits, so yeah, what's weird and alarming to me is probably well within her comfort zone. Makes me feel better - in a bizarre kind of way




Flaccon stockpiling "evidence" makes sense, and leaving comments is an easy way to create a log. Some of those comments do suggest a "look at me" behavior so maybe it's a little bit of everything you said.

I just can't understand why anyone would choose to live in a cramped world with a bunch of spirits who mumble all the time

Scordatura

Thank you for the concern of my well being. It is truly appreciated. Please rest assured, I have never felt so well for a long long time. I was almost crippled with pain, and trying to work out the mental side of 20 years was unbearable. I cannot keep moving from house to house to rid these forces. I do not choose this way of life. Its fortunate that this time I do not need to run any more.

My friends do look out for me, they have mentioned that folk are searching through my youtube, hence my logging in. I don't log in here because I feel I am unnerving people, and it is not my intention to do so. I am just gathering up what I can.

My family are not sick of me. Most of my family did not know of my past 20 years. Those who do know, and have been as unfortunate, are behind me all the way.

My life has dramatically improved for the better these past 10 months. I can actually take the grand kids on camping holidays! Its truly a blessing that I am grateful for.

I don't know why you don't like me, I am only trying to get to the bottom of a crazy but positive experience that has been forced upon me. I do believe that if they (the spirits) can help me, and heal me, they can help others too. I might be wrong, but the cost of sounding foolish is worth the effort.

 

[abaddon]

Thank you for the concern of my well being. It is truly appreciated.

Concern for your well-being has been expressed multiple time in this thread.

Please rest assured, I have never felt so well for a long long time. I was almost crippled with pain, and trying to work out the mental side of 20 years was unbearable.

The mental side of 20 years of what?

I cannot keep moving from house to house to rid these forces. I do not choose this way of life. Its fortunate that this time I do not need to run any more.

Did it never occur to you that the various houses are irrelevant? that if you moved 50 times you would still be carrying this baggage? that if you moved to Jupiter you would still be carrying this mental baggage? No?

My friends do look out for me, they have mentioned that folk are searching through my youtube, hence my logging in. I don't log in here because I feel I am unnerving people, and it is not my intention to do so. I am just gathering up what I can.

It's not unnerving, it's boring. So much good advice and even members going to your location, all of which you promptly ignore.

My family are not sick of me. Most of my family did not know of my past 20 years. Those who do know, and have been as unfortunate, are behind me all the way.

Has it occurred to you that those who know may simply be placating you to avoid unpleasentness?

My life has dramatically improved for the better these past 10 months. I can actually take the grand kids on camping holidays! Its truly a blessing that I am grateful for.

Well, that's good, but I sincerely hope you are not inflicting all of this on your grandkids.

I don't know why you don't like me, I am only trying to get to the bottom of a crazy but positive experience that has been forced upon me. I do believe that if they (the spirits) can help me, and heal me, they can help others too. I might be wrong, but the cost of sounding foolish is worth the effort.

I don't think anyone here actively dislikes you. Many here dislike your reluctance to listen, to understand, to even discuss. This paragraph is a case in point. According to you the spirits have forced you to move house multiple times, in spite of which you think they can help and heal you. Please resolve this. If the spirits can help or heal you, why have they been sufficiently annoying to force you to move? OTOH if they are malevolent, why do you think they might help or heal you?

But, of course, you won't do this. You won't answer or enter a discussion. Why is that?

 

[Cassidy]

Judging from some of her youtube comments, the OP also seems to be a fan of the chemtrails and Harp conspiracy nonsense. It wouldn't shock me if she turned out to be a truther and alien-lizard believer, which would be standard for this type of mentality.

I'm not too familiar with HAARP. I hear the UK government admitted to releasing chemtrails? not sure. My homework last year was on Monsanto. I am not targeting HAARP or chemtrail video's, just personal uploads of any description without music. I don't believe in aliens, and never have.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

... I don't log in here because I feel I am unnerving people...

Please rest assured that nothing you have posted here has unnerved anyone at all. You've given us no good reason to think your spirit voices are anything but imaginary, so we really have nothing to be unnerved about.

My life has dramatically improved for the better these past 10 months. I can actually take the grand kids on camping holidays! Its truly a blessing that I am grateful for.

I'm very glad to hear it and wish you continuing excellent health.

I don't know why you don't like me, I am only trying to get to the bottom of a crazy but positive experience that has been forced upon me. I do believe that if they (the spirits) can help me, and heal me, they can help others too. I might be wrong, but the cost of sounding foolish is worth the effort.

I don't dislike you at all, but I am somewhat exasperated that you don't really appear to be trying to get to the bottom of your experiences at all. Instead you appear to be seeking confirmation of your belief in imaginary spirits.

I don't see how you can reconcile your hopes that these spirits will guide and help you with your story of their driving you out of several homes and their apparent inability to express any useful information.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I hear the UK government admitted to releasing chemtrails? not sure.

I am very sure you are mistaken.

 

[Mojo]

I hear the UK government admitted to releasing chemtrails?

I very much doubt that you heard this from the UK government, since the responses from government departments to enquiries about chemtrails on the whatdotheyknow.com FOI website are invariably that they know of no credible evidence that chemtrails exist, or that they are not aware of anything being released from aicraft other than the normal exhaust products.

Can you cite a source for this?

 

[abaddon]

I'm not too familiar with HAARP.

History. It was a radio transmitter, and it is closed down due to lack of funding.

I hear the UK government admitted to releasing chemtrails? not sure.

60 years ago.

My homework last year was on Monsanto.

Did you do your homework, or simply visit crackpot sites on the interwebs?

I am not targeting HAARP or chemtrail video's, just personal uploads of any description without music. I don't believe in aliens, and never have.

That is not healthy.

 

[TjW]

To get all nitpicky: Contrails certainly exist. Chemtrails are imaginary.

 

[Cassidy]

Concern for your well-being has been expressed multiple time in this thread.

The mental side of 20 years of what?

Did it never occur to you that the various houses are irrelevant? that if you moved 50 times you would still be carrying this baggage? that if you moved to Jupiter you would still be carrying this mental baggage? No?

It's not unnerving, it's boring. So much good advice and even members going to your location, all of which you promptly ignore.

Has it occurred to you that those who know may simply be placating you to avoid unpleasentness?

Well, that's good, but I sincerely hope you are not inflicting all of this on your grandkids.

I don't think anyone here actively dislikes you. Many here dislike your reluctance to listen, to understand, to even discuss. This paragraph is a case in point. According to you the spirits have forced you to move house multiple times, in spite of which you think they can help and heal you. Please resolve this. If the spirits can help or heal you, why have they been sufficiently annoying to force you to move? OTOH if they are malevolent, why do you think they might help or heal you?

But, of course, you won't do this. You won't answer or enter a discussion. Why is that?

I constantly thank folk for their concern, and their help. I am more concerned that they are concerned for the wrong reasons. I am also concerned that you could think that I would put this onto my grand children. For the first time in their lives I can enjoy them.

I have discussed plenty here. I've listened to advice and have acted upon some of it.

The spirits wrecked my family life 20 years ago. We were constantly attacked for 6 years (kids included) The church intervened and for the past 13 years we have been spiritually protected. This "protection" has now contacted me, healed me and continues to guide me. I can't be more honest than this.

 

[Cassidy]

I very much doubt that you heard this from the UK government, since the responses from government departments to enquiries about contrails on the whatdotheyknow.com FOI website are invariably that they know of no credible evidence that contrails exist, or that they are not aware of anything being released from aicraft other than the normal exhaust products.

Can you cite a source for this?

I didn't hear it from the gov't, just Chinese whispers. True or false I've no real idea. At an educated guess I'd say something's not right.

 

[abaddon]

I can't be more honest than this.

Oh, but you could. You are simply unwilling to be that honest.

 

[Mojo]

I didn't hear it from the gov't, just Chinese whispers. True or false I've no real idea. At an educated guess I'd say something's not right.

At an educated guess I'd say it's the person you heard the "Chinese whispers" from.

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

I constantly thank folk for their concern, and their help. I am more concerned that they are concerned for the wrong reasons. I am also concerned that you could think that I would put this onto my grand children. For the first time in their lives I can enjoy them.

I have discussed plenty here. I've listened to advice and have acted upon some of it.

The spirits wrecked my family life 20 years ago. We were constantly attacked for 6 years (kids included) The church intervened and for the past 13 years we have been spiritually protected. This "protection" has now contacted me, healed me and continues to guide me. I can't be more honest than this.

You could be a lot more honest. A lot. Your website indicates that your family members do not believe your delusions, yet you say they do.

Your kids should not have had to suffer through your delusions, stories of spirits, demons, djinns, "help" from the church, etc.

Face it. There are no spirits, demons or djinns, chemtrails are nothing but poor quality campfire stories, David Icke is full of crap, Monsanto is not out to poison us, and Jesus, if he ever actually existed, was a traveling magician and faith healer at best, a disturbed troublemaker at worst.

If you're going to continue to pretend that there are spirits in your laptop after months of reading pertinent information about pareidolia, confirmation bias, communal reinforcement and other relevant factors, you must provide evidence.

You don't have evidence, or we would have seen it by now.

I can't believe you have the gall to come back and insist that you have contacted spirits, when months of exchanges have yielded nothing but evidence to the contrary.

As far as I'm concerned, until you post a video of yourself proving your claims, you have no reason to bring the topic back on the table.

Perhaps you should grow up and stop blaming the spirit world for your problems.

 

[Pixel42]

I don't log in here because I feel I am unnerving people, and it is not my intention to do so.

I am genuinely mystified as to why you should think this. As Jack by the hedge says, nothing you have said suggests that your "spirits" are anything other than figments of your imagination, and every piece of "evidence" you have offered supports that view, so there is absolutely nothing for us to be unnerved about.

I am only trying to get to the bottom of a crazy but positive experience that has been forced upon me.

That's certainly not the impression I get. You came here already certain of what was at the bottom of your experiences, and have rejected every suggestion and offer of help that would have threatened your manifestly mistaken beliefs.