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But wasn't one of the original claims on the website that the spirits answered questions? How can they answer questions if Tracey isn't allowed to ask any? This, as in so much of this thread, makes no sense at all.

The goalposts have moved so much they can't stand still anymore.

Also there was a claim that the spirits healed so why does Tracey need a doctor at all? (Though I think it a good idea that she continues to see her GP as and when she needs to)
 
malicus said:
And the polar opposite of what this FREAKING THREAD HAS BEEN BASED ON.

I despair. I really do.
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It's perhaps a bizarre attempt by Scrappy for flaccon to instigate a sense of realness to these (unevidenced) 'voices' by displacing the source of these (unevidenced) 'voices' away from flaccon through her claimed dislike of them as if to imply that therefor flaccon can not be the source of these (unevidenced) 'voices'.
 
scrappy said:
... Paredolia doesn't account for her altering my silent file, nor the voice on my lap top that has only been present since june. ...
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It's most reasonable to state that no such things have in fact occurred through 'spiritual' means.
 
Whoever owns the Box account, pm me a mail addy and I will send on the artefacts I captured. Better to keep all of the examples in one spot.
 
scrappy said:
I am still trying to contact Tracy with out success. I read this post twice and it makes very good sense. Tracy isn't actually allowed to ask the spirits questions. Tracy asks many questions, Tracy hears answers she don't like.
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trustbutverify said:
What factual evidence would you need to see in order to raise doubt in your mind concerning the claims your group believes in?

Please be as specific as possible.
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Could you please answer this question?
 
Alderbank said:
Hi abaddon.

Are you referring to the free account www.box.com/alderbank which I set up for this thread? If so I have already PM'd you.

Good luck. You deserve it
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Yes, the login didn't work. As a fallback I will mail both you and js the files and you can upload. Was that a live address?

ETA: After all it is flaccon's preferred mode of transmission. :D
 
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Yes, the login didn't work. As a fallback I will mail both you and js the files and you can upload. Was that a live address?

ETA: After all it is flaccon's preferred mode of transmission. :D
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Logon worked for me. I'd be delighted to upload them.
 
abaddon said:
Yes, the login didn't work. As a fallback I will mail both you and js the files and you can upload. Was that a live address?

ETA: After all it is flaccon's preferred mode of transmission. :D
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Those pesky spirits have been at it again, altering files all over the place. Either that or I made a typo with the password. Corrected it now :)
 
scrappy said:
Paredolia really can not account for her 3 minute intake of breath, which left her on antibiotics for 2 weeks, due to her skin in her mouth and throat peeling off.
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Jack by the hedge said:
Firstly, I'm not entirely comfortable with your deciding to share another member's medical history with the internet.

Secondly, that aside, I don't think anyone here would be likely to propose pareidolia as a cause of those symptoms, nor to suggest antibiotics as a treatment for pareidolia.

Thirdly, "3 minute intake of breath". What?
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Jack, to be fair it was flaccon herself who first referred to this incident:

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This time, I listened to these voices and it was the spirit of my Father. After we spoke for 4 days, I was told to catch my breath, I was made to breathe in for 3 to 4 minutes (witnessed - followed up by dried lips/loose skin in mouth and throat, Anti-biotics for 2 weeks) After that incident, blood was released, a fantastic healing took place. The spirit with the deepest voice, explains their reason for wanting Church assistance. I cannot possibly ignore this because Religion says so, it's too positive. If I did ignore this, it doesn't stop their non-computer activities.
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I agree that no-one considered that pareidolia had anything to do with it. Why would they?

In the UK antibiotics are only available on prescription and are prescribed only for bacterial infections. I read the above as saying that flaccon visited her doctor with what he diagnosed as a throat infection and prescribed a fortnight course of antibiotics. Following that she was miraculously cured by the spirits. I think a more mundane explanation would be that the antibiotics had something to do with it.

I don't know what 'I was told to catch my breath, I was made to breathe in for 3 to 4 minutes' means either although it sounds a little like the technique used by first responders to get a panic attack under control. I guess we'll just never know
 
iamcanjim said:
How is this thread still open. I thought as skeptics we generally choose not to encourage the delusions of the truly mentally ill?
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Don't blame me. I said this was a typical waste of time some weeks back. One of the mods even argued-back at me.
 
scrappy said:
I am still trying to contact Tracy with out success.
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I don't understand that. The rest of the time, you seem to be in contact with Tracey 24/7, to the extent of telling us every single thought and emotion hich passes through her mind.

I read this post twice and it makes very good sense. Tracy isn't actually allowed to ask the spirits questions.
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Goalpost shift.

Tracy asks many questions, Tracy hears answers she don't like.
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WTF? You just said in the previous sentence that Tracey isn't allowed to ask questions. Now she CAN ask que$tions, and doesn't like the answers? Make up your mind. Plant the goalposts in one spot.

Tracy never mentioned mountains but they continuously request this.
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Request what? That she bring them a mountain? That she climb a mountain? That "they" like mountains...or pictures of mountains...or prefer European mountains to American ones...what?

Paredolia really can not account for her 3 minute intake of breath, which left her on antibiotics for 2 weeks, due to her skin in her mouth and throat peeling off.
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Well, neither can listenig to spirits. And noone here eve suggested paredolia could manifest physical symptoms, so you can stop accusing people of that gem.

I thought you said "they" healed her, and she is in the best mental and physical shape of her life, other than the frustration of having to deal with cowards like us.

How does a 3 minute intake of breath-which is ridiculous and physically impossible-lead to antibiotics and peeling skin in her mouth (btw, the interior of the mouth doesn't contain skin) and on her throat. IOW, what the **** are you talking about, man?

Paredolia doesn't account for her altering my silent file, nor the voice on my lap top that has only been present since june.
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Yeah, it certainly does. That's what people have been trying to tell you.

I have made a note of this post and texted it to Tracy.
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You just said you've been trying to contact Tracey without success. Succesfully sending her a text qualifies as contacting her with success.

But why text her anyway? She can read it here as well as you can. If her Internet connection is conveniently down again, she won't be able to read in an email, either.

Seriously, dude, why are you here? Why not let Tracey speak for herself-presumably she's a grown woman who can handle doing so- instead of "Tracey said this", and "I told Tracey that", and "I can tell you how Tracey feels and thinks because I live inside her brain", and "You all are cowards."

Your drivel just makes everything more confusing and ridiculous. Tracey is a grown ass woman. Let her speak for herself.
 
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