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scrappy said:
There is nothing rude in requesting a file. All we have asked for is a recording made on volume normal. Ref to 4412 Tracy knows who I refer to as cowards and its no one on this site.
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Who cares what Tracy knows? You're just backtracking. You called members here cowards. That's it.
 
scrappy said:
why on earth would I direct the word coward to any body here. Ref 4433.
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Then in your words:
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Her only frustration is do to her injust treatment from cowards who judge without proper investigation.
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Who are the cowards you spoke of?
What were they saying that differs from what you have heard here?

PS - I still read your post 4412 (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9372949&postcount=4412) as calling us cowards. :con2:
 
scrappy said:
Tracy came here because sceptics are not cowards, so why on earth would I direct the word coward to any body here. Ref 4433.
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Are you Tracy? Why SHE came here has absolutely nothing to do with what YOU say. I don't know why you would call people here cowards, but it looks like you did. Stop referencing what Tracy knows or says, and speak to what YOU said.

For God's sake, learn how to use the quote functions. To quote directly, click on the "Quote" button. To include one or more previous posts, click on the quotation remarks in each reply box, and then click "Post Reply", and the remarks you want to reply to will be included. See the little buttons right there on the bottom right? It is not that freaking difficult. Everyone else here extends you the courtesy of including quoted posts in their replies. Do you think you could do the same, instead of asking them to do your work for you with your stupid "Ref 1234"?

Are you really that lazy?
 
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scrappy said:
Ruin ? I have never seen Tracy so healthy and happy. Her only frustration is do to her injust treatment from cowards who judge without proper investigation.

( How come no one points out Alderbanks delusions?)
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How come you don't PM abaddon Tracey's e-mail address, so he can send the files to her?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
I just emailed scrappy two files of ambient noise recorded with Sound Recorder on my trusty old laptop;

8.wav with the MD5 hash 25A587F493B73AE50550E054336034DA
10.wav with the MD5 hash 665E15FD29F3BB0564B521EC03FE2401
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Sure would be nice if flaccon would provide an objective criterion for change to a file.
 
Blue Bubble said:
I can hear distinct voices in that ... "Car... lisle" ... "United" ...

Hold on, if I turn up the volume and hold the speakers to my bum, I hear distinctly the word "revelation" ... or it could be "'regelation" ... or just maybe "relegation" ...

Or something ...
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"Third Tier" spirits then?
 
It has occurred to me, if the mere act of playing a file back alters the file, how can flaccon know what the original content was to begin with?

Now that Scrappy's machine alters files as well, how can scrappy know what is on any new files that he might get?

I would still like an answer to my question a page or two back about the mysterious non changing file that she herself recorded.
 
scrappy said:
Yes I did, and there where 4 of us present. The lady in question explained to us what the spirits meant when they spoke with her on a personal level.
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What factual evidence would you need to see in order to raise doubt in your mind concerning the claims your group believes in?

Please be as specific as possible.
 
Drs_Res said:
It has occurred to me, if the mere act of playing a file back alters the file, how can flaccon know what the original content was to begin with?

Now that Scrappy's machine alters files as well, how can scrappy know what is on any new files that he might get?
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Both rely on the originator's description of any sounds on the files they're sent.

But since they asked for silent recordings, that description is basically "nothing". What's really there of course is low level noise. That's what led to the long argument over the file that allegedly changed but didn't really. There is a change in the level of the noise halfway through which got siezed on as significant, but we know from the MD5 that the file was unaltered so that change in noise level was already there to begin with.
 
Drs_Res said:
It has occurred to me, if the mere act of playing a file back alters the file, how can flaccon know what the original content was to begin with?

Now that Scrappy's machine alters files as well, how can scrappy know what is on any new files that he might get?
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I think they listen to the file first, then one of them asks it a question and it "changes".

This is all a combination of silence, distortion, Chinese Whispers, pareidolia and self-deception.
 
So, can someone clarify. Has Scrappy "accepted" the file sent? Does it meet whatever criteria we're supposed to be meeting? Are we going to get word back as to what message is in there, now (that wasn't there previously)?

D-R-I-N-K C-H-O-C-O-L-A-T-E-Y O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E
 
Orphia Nay said:
I think they listen to the file first, then one of them asks it a question and it "changes".

This is all a combination of silence, distortion, Chinese Whispers, pareidolia and self-deception.
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Yes, but it's all very exciting and special. You know they're going to the papers, right?
 
Foolmewunz said:
So, can someone clarify. Has Scrappy "accepted" the file sent? Does it meet whatever criteria we're supposed to be meeting? Are we going to get word back as to what message is in there, now (that wasn't there previously)?

D-R-I-N-K C-H-O-C-O-L-A-T-E-Y O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E
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What, no Bosco™?
 
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