Look at this collapse

[Docker]

How do you think they melt steel anyway? Maybe Hydrocarbons?


Hint: Think Oil or Gas products

Burning in perfect combination with oxygen to produce blue flames. Did you see any blu flames at the trade centre?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Burning in perfect combination with oxygen to produce blue flames. Did you see any blu flames at the trade centre?

did you see any goalposts moving?

 

[Docker]

hey, even your formula has oxygen, so its still a carbohydrate, lol

Carbohydrates are still hydrocarbons.

Now admit you are wrong and know nothing about hydrocarbons.

P.S. Where did you get your ridiculous formula for cellulose?

 

[Pardalis]

Docker, why have you left the other threads you have started, are you really after the truth?

 

[beachnut]

Am I being asked a serious question by a man who has bothered to photoshop my avatar with a tin foil hat?

This gets worse.

we are posting to a someone with an Alex Jones avatar

you know the term "Alex Jones" is the universal debunking phrase, like Denny Crane on Boston Legal, a phase of meaning, universal in being powerful in its very meaning of bunk

what is your post and why are you unable to present facts to support your position?

 

[Docker]

although his notion that hydrocarbon fires cant hurt steel was flawed to begin with

hey docker, you never did tell me what acetylene does to steel

What does acetylene have to do with jet fuel fires?

Can anyone see the goalposts moving?

 

[alexg]

Denny Crane!

LOL

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Carbohydrates are still hydrocarbons.

Now admit you are wrong and know nothing about hydrocarbons.

P.S. Where did you get your ridiculous formula for cellulose?

In chemistry, a hydrocarbon is any chemical compound that consists only of the elements carbon (C) and hydrogen (H). They all contain a carbon backbone, called a carbon skeleton, and have hydrogen atoms attached to that backbone. (Often the term is used as a shortened form of the term aliphatic hydrocarbon.) Most hydrocarbons are combustible. Although the term carbohydrate sounds similar, carbohydrates contain oxygen.

for cellulose:

Over half of the total organic carbon in the earth's biosphere is in cellulose. Cotton fibres are essentially pure cellulose, and the wood of bushes and trees is about 50% cellulose. As a polymer of glucose, cellulose has the formula (C6H10O5)n where n ranges from 500 to 5,000, depending on the source of the polymer.

http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/carbhyd.htm

so where did your rediculous formula come from?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

What does acetylene have to do with jet fuel fires?

Can anyone see the goalposts moving?

your statement was that hydrocarbon fires cannot "turn steel to rubber" which i guess taken literally is true, if you meant that literally i will concede my point

however, if you meant is a indication of strength, then it is false, hydrocarbon fires can in fact weaken and even melt steel, if you meant jet fuel cannot weaken steel, you shoudl have said jet fuel

 

[R.Mackey]

Carbohydrates are still hydrocarbons.

Now admit you are wrong and know nothing about hydrocarbons.

P.S. Where did you get your ridiculous formula for cellulose?

In case anybody's looking for signature material, this might qualify.

 

[beachnut]

Denny Crane!

Denny Crane!

 

[Docker]

for cellulose:



http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/carbhyd.htm

so where did your rediculous formula come from?

My formula is the formula for cellulose in wood. Which is what you asked for.

 

[Piggy]

Regarding the alleged upward plume, take a look at your picture again, Docker, especially the relative heights of the buildings. The tower has fallen out from under the debris cloud.

The issue of lateral projection of materials has already been addressed -- collapse of floors necessarily generates lateral expression of air.

 

[firecoins]

According to NIST, the heat of the fires, whether from fuel or office supplies was hot enough to weaken steel, not melt it.

 

[Docker]

your statement was that hydrocarbon fires cannot "turn steel to rubber" which i guess taken literally is true, if you meant that literally i will concede my point

however, if you meant is a indication of strength, then it is false, hydrocarbon fires can in fact weaken and even melt steel, if you meant jet fuel cannot weaken steel, you shoudl have said jet fuel

The melting point of steel is much higher than the maximum temperature of jet fuel.

QED

 

[beachnut]

In case anybody's looking for signature material, this might qualify.

see if you noticed this guy would answer your call but he does not seem he is interested in the fact you won, as he proves he was lost and is the definition of lost

 

[Docker]

According to NIST, the heat of the fires, whether from fuel or office supplies was hot enough to weaken steel, not melt it.

According to NIST? The same people that think 767s are shotguns.

 

[Piggy]

So, Docker, are you working your way around to explaining why your explosions didn't go BOOM?

 

[maccy]

Carbohydrates are still hydrocarbons.

Now admit you are wrong and know nothing about hydrocarbons.

P.S. Where did you get your ridiculous formula for cellulose?

OK I'll join the fun. I'm not a scientist but I can use Wikipedia

In chemistry, a hydrocarbon is any chemical compound that consists only of the elements carbon (C) and hydrogen (H).

Cellulose (C6H10O5)n is a long-chain polymeric polysaccharide carbohydrate, of beta-glucose

 

[defaultdotxbe]

My formula is the formula for cellulose in wood. Which is what you asked for.

you may be right, im not sure, regardless, its still a carbohydrate, not a hydrocarbon

The melting point of steel is much higher than the maximum temperature of jet fuel.

true

Steel does not turn to rubber in a hydrocarbon fire.

false

unless of course you literally meant "steel does not transmute into rubber in a hydrocarbon fire"