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Look at this collapse

Garb said:
Docker, as much as I appreciate your immaturity to attack me in your sig, it doesn't make you any smarter, nor does it prove any of your theories correct.

And where do you see these explosions?
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Attack you? Hey, if I can attack you by simply quoting your own words then your in trouble.
 
Docker said:
Anyone can be that childish
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but what are your background besides asking questions and posting CT ideas on out of context photos of falling WTC?

are you an engineer?

a software salesman?

a failed radio show host with a bull horn?

or the only CT guy left without facts cause you left them with Charlie Sheen to defend against all odds?

It would be interesting what you are so we understand how you are better equipped to understand physics than any other patent clerk is?
 
Docker said:
Everything you list there is a hydrocarbon. Is this really the level of scientific knowledge I am up against?
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i woudl hardly classify wood and flesh as hydrocarbon

and as far as hydrocarbon effects on steel....what does acetylene do to steel? says alot about your level of scientific knowledge
 
"Docker: huge explosions shown in my photo.

Seriously Docker, if you want to play this game, you are going to lose..."

Interesting that you view this as winning and losing.

Could we have a game of my dad is bigger than your dad?


 
Docker said:
I have not misquoted you. That is what you said. People quote me all the time and I don't complain.
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No you quote mined it. I stated that i read parts of the report that interested me and RE-READ other parts when I wanted to prove a point or fact.

Again, you miquoted me. So, REMOVE that quote from your sig. YOU took my quote out of context, and are now presenting it as to mean something else entirely.

I do not appreicate people who put words into my mouth. Im perfectly capable of speaking on my own behalf, and I dont need kooks like you to miquote me.

So, You are asked for a final time before I report you to the mods, to remove my quote.
 
Docker said:
If I told you you would simply declare that I am lying. Such as was done to pdoherty
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you post pictures of "ground zero" that aren't and I and other native New Yorkers have picked that up quickly.

you seem to have a problem with the tests NIST used but can't give us better experiements that would satisfy you. We have no idea what backround you to qualify you to disagree with their experiments. Nor have you suggested what they should do that would satisfy you.

You seem to be afrain to be called a liar if you mention your backround. Ill call you a liar without knowing it. It doesn't matter. If you have a legit science backround or at least something better than my economics degree you should at least put it foward.
 
Docker said:
Attack you? Hey, if I can attack you by simply quoting your own words then your in trouble.
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Well, the fact you completely misinterpreted it shows a lot.

In mine, I'm only trying to prove a point.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
i woudl hardly classify wood and flesh as hydrocarbon

and as far as hydrocarbon effects on steel....what does acetylene do to steel? says alot about your level of scientific knowledge
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Would and flesh are indeed hydrocarbons.

So , in summary, you cant give me an example of a non hydrocarbon that was burning and, in fact, you don't know what hydrocarbons are.

Your making this too easy for me.
 
What evidence do you have that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolitions?

I think it's a fair question, since you brought it up.
 
Docker said:
If I told you you would simply declare that I am lying. Such as was done to pdoherty
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Only because the data he presented was checked and was found invalid. We would happily check yours, and if valid, not problem. I assume from your posts that I have seen that you have degrees (from accredited institutions of higher learning) and /or certification (from agencies accredited and entitled to issue said certificates) in explosive demolition, civil engineering, firefighting, chemistry (specializing in the chemistry of incendiary and explosive materials), metallurgy [well, cover those for now and we might give you a pass on the others]. With no offense, but complete certainty, I admit that I am suspicious that you have a background in any of these, but I am perfectly willing to be proven wrong.:)
 
Docker said:
"Docker: huge explosions shown in my photo.

Seriously Docker, if you want to play this game, you are going to lose..."

Interesting that you view this as winning and losing.

Could we have a game of my dad is bigger than your dad?
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look at this collapse, no facts,

did you mean this collapse or what?
 
Docker said:
Would and flesh are indeed hydrocarbons.

So , in summary, you cant give me an example of a non hydrocarbon that was burning and, in fact, you don't know what hydrocarbons are.

Your making this too easy for me.
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Do you acknowledge that run-of-the-mill hydrocarbon-based fires, such as occur in homes and offices, can reach sufficient temperatures to weaken steel? Yes, or no?
 
Arus808 said:
No you quote mined it. I stated that i read parts of the report that interested me and RE-READ other parts when I wanted to prove a point or fact.

Again, you miquoted me. So, REMOVE that quote from your sig. YOU took my quote out of context, and are now presenting it as to mean something else entirely.

I do not appreicate people who put words into my mouth. Im perfectly capable of speaking on my own behalf, and I dont need kooks like you to miquote me.

So, You are asked for a final time before I report you to the mods, to remove my quote.
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I copied the quote directly from your post.
 
Docker said:
Would and flesh are indeed hydrocarbons.

So , in summary, you cant give me an example of a non hydrocarbon that was burning and, in fact, you don't know what hydrocarbons are.

Your making this too easy for me.
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so, whats the chemical formula of the cellulose in wood?
 
There are explosions movement of air under pressure, explosions are only the rapid movement of air caused by a shock wave, the Shock wave this time is created by the air being forced from the building by the debris.
There are Explosions just no explosives necessary to cause them, all you need is compressed air.
Try Putting 1000 psi in an inter-tube from a car tire and you will see the same effect. Air can cause explosions without explosives.
Buildings are built for the air spaces they contain not for the solid walls that surround them.
 
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