London's "No-Go" areas.

Captain_Swoop said:
Whatever happened to good old fashioned East End or South of the River gangsters?

Remember the good old days of pulling out teeth with pliers, cutting off fingers with bolt cutters, electrocutions or plain old stabbings at parties or shootings in pubs?

They may have been psychotic murderers but they loved their old mum!
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indeed, these acid-throwers are pikers and craven cowards compared to them! It's time to bring back REAL criminals!
 
I should also point out that the Jewish Museum London is in Camden.

You would have thought that they would have been the amongst the first to suffer if it was a no-go zone for the emergency services.
 
Mojo said:
No pubs listed for Canning Town, Stratford or Shadwell, but there are bound to be decent pubs nearby, for example if we get off a train at Shadwell we can stroll down to the Prospect of Whitby. The Husk Bewing Taproom is near Canning Town but is only open Fridays & Saturdays (ETA: the Durham Arms is described on the What Pub website as “a bit hard to find but well worth looking for” but the site also says that it has no real ale). Loads of pubs in Stratford.

*Not halal, judging by the menu.
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Pubs in Shadwell https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/areas/shadwell/central-london/
 
Mojo said:
And there were plenty of those back in the 19th century. Parts of Bethnal Green actually were no-go areas back then.
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And in the 50s and 60s there were areas of London in a which the police were simply bribed or blackmailed into ignoring.
 
Information Analyst said:
A lot of traditional pubs have been closing down all over. Nothing to do with Muslims. Those who like to headline that "X pubs close down each month" usually forget to mention how many new trendy bars open at the same time.
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I wasn’t suggesting that it was anything to do with Muslims. Just that if they’ve closed down they won’t be much use for the No-Go Pub Crawl.
 
Mojo said:
Mostly listed as “Reported closed”. :(
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Try this then. https://www.timeout.com/london/things-to-do/wapping-shadwell-area-guide

A lot of traditional pubs have closed but 'micro pubs', cocktail lounges, gin bars and 'gastro pubs' are replacing them.

Like in my home town, we have lost the 'Buck Hotel' one of the old Coaching inns on the Market Place and now a solicitors, the 'Highland Laddie' now called 'Cook Fellas' restaurant and Cocktail Lounge and the 'Seven Stars' another old Market Place Inn it was refurbished and re-named 'The Priory' and tried to be an up-market 'Gastro Pub' but closed shortly afterwards and is being re-furbished again as a cocktail lounge and restaurant.

We have gained 'The Sitting Room' Cocktail bar in the old Saddlery, the 'Ironstone Miners' in what was the old Registry office, the 'Monk' Cocktail lounge and restaurant in what was a bank and 'Badgers' Gin and cocktail lounge in what was a carpet shop.
 
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Mojo said:
OK, I’ve just checked the 2019 Good Beer Guide.

Bethnal Green
Camel, 278 Globe Rd E2 0JD

Hackney
Cock Tavern, 315 Mare St E8 1EL
Pembury Tavern, 90 Amherst Rd E8 1JH

Plaistow
Black Lion 59-61 Church St E13 0AD

Islington
Wenlock Arms, 26 Wenlock Rd N1 7TA (Actually designated as Hoxton, but it’s where the bottle is in the map)
Angel, 3-5 Islington High St N1 9LQ

Stoke Newington
Jolly Butchers*, 204 Stoke Newington High St N16 7HU

Camden Town
Constitution, 42 St Pancras Way NW1 0QT
Prince Albert, 163 Royal College St NW1 0SG
Tapping the Admiral, 77 Castle Rd NW1 8SU

Kentish Town
Grafton, 20 Prince of Wales Rd NW5 3LG
Lion & Unicorn, 42 Gaisford St NW5 2ED
Pineapple, 51 Leverton St NW5 2NX
Southampton Arms, 139 Highgate Rd NW5 1LE

Elephant & Castle
Elephant & Castle, 119 Newington Causeway SE1 6BN

Anyone fancy a pub crawl?

No pubs listed for Canning Town, Stratford or Shadwell, but there are bound to be decent pubs nearby, for example if we get off a train at Shadwell we can stroll down to the Prospect of Whitby. The Husk Bewing Taproom is near Canning Town but is only open Fridays & Saturdays (ETA: the Durham Arms is described on the What Pub website as “a bit hard to find but well worth looking for” but the site also says that it has no real ale). Loads of pubs in Stratford.

*Not halal, judging by the menu.
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The Pineapple is an exceedingly popular pub. Full of journalists.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I lived islington for several years and worked there for even longer. Upper Street is one of the best places you will ever visit.

This was our fave pub, one of the best in the city https://www.the-albion.co.uk/ but the Victoria Tavern was right next door so we usually went there.
Our offices were in a converted baroque church at the junction of Liverpool road and Holloway, it was handy because it was a short walk to either Caledonian Road, Holloway Road or Highbury and islington tube stations depending what line you wanted to be on. Plus, the boss was a big Arsenal fan and it was short walk to the stadium for mid week matches.

I worked as a field engineer for a company supporting publishing, music and video systems, I have been to and worked in all of the locations on your map.
Never a problem in any of them. I still travel down to do jobs around the city, I speak from first hand experience. You are full of crap.

My sister lived in Elephant and Castle for years

Camden is famous for being a hip, trendy tourist destination.

As for Kentish town

11-reasons-why-its-the-best-place-to-live-in-london
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I worked at Highbury Corner area in the wine trade. The boss often took us to Gill Wing's in Upper Street, cordon bleu chef, mmm, mmm.

You do have to be careful or you are likely to bump into Boris Johnson out jogging, Arthur Mullard, whilst he was alive, sitting on a bench in Highbury Fields and a very famous ex-Arsenal football (long hair, forget his name*: famous for lying flat on the ground after scoring an important goal) spent all of his time in the bookies.

Famous celebs often seen wandering around Kentish Town: Jon Snow, Andrew Ridgley (Wham), Adam Ant, George Michael, Roger Lloyd-Pack, Anthony Booth (Cherie Blair's dad) (sadly, several have died or moved away).

As for 'Muslims' I had two teenage girls in burkas/hijabs racing towards me at King's Cross Station...to carry my luggage up the steps for me.

Shocking!!! Shurely shome mishtake...?

*ETA: Charlie George
 
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Information Analyst said:
People are always to ready to believe areas where they don't know are rougher than the ones they do know. A few years back, Mrs Analyst was working in Harlesden, while we were living in Wood Green (actually Bowes Park). A colleague once said to her, "I have to go over to Wood Green this afternoon. Is it rough?" Incredulous, Mrs Analyst said, "Er.... you work in Harlesden!" The point being that people outside of Harlesden are convinced that it's rougher than it is.
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Harlesden is one place you should avoid.
 
Mojo said:
And there were plenty of those back in the 19th century. Parts of Bethnal Green actually were no-go areas back then.
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There was of course, the notorious Billy White/Alf White gang:

Alfred Henry White (1887–1942), better known as Big Alf White was an English gangster, who headed the White Family street gang.

He was born in Copenhagen Street, Islington, London, to drinking club proprietor Alfred White and Victoria Bayford. White became one of the most ruthless and vicious London gangsters between the World Wars and was the main force behind the Sabini gang of Clerkenwell, which he partnered in terrorising bookmakers on racecourses and street corners. He was also a local protection racketeer who extended his operations into West End club land.
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Operated out of Camden/Chalk Farm area.

Then of course there is the present day Terry Adams family of Islington.

The man's home, where McKenzie was introduced to him, is a discreetly guarded but substantial north London mansion, tastefully decorated and filled with antique furniture and expensive objets d'art. He is a well-mannered man of cultured tastes, with a liking for good wine and custom- built cars. He was once so wealthy that he considered putting in a bid for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club.

But this is no ordinary captain of industry. His name is Terry Adams and he was - and possibly still is - the head of Britain's most enterprising (and most feared) organised criminal gang - the Adams family, otherwise known as the A-Team, or the Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate.
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Their real names were Mohammed and Ali. Bloody Muslims. All the same.
 
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jimbob said:
Well according to Baylor's reasoning on the original thread - specifically this post, the police tape does indeed indicate a no-go area.




No I don't get how that somehow has anything to do with the police being so afraid of Muslims that they're afraid to go there, either.
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I've seen that image as a joke answer to a Quora question asking where the no go areas are. I think the joke went over certain heads.
 
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