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Janadele said:
Of course.
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Then in what way are Christians being "harassed" by those "radical homosexuals"?

Also, are you willing to admit that you just totally made this up or were misinformed?


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Christian preachers have already been fined and gaoled for "discriminating" by teaching the word of God regarding homosexual activity.
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Janadele said:
Another of many false statements. Never have I claimed anything of the kind.
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Then why, may I ask,if nothing I do influences your relationship with your 'god', and your own ability to follow your interpretation of "eternal law", is it any business of yours what my partner and I do on my land in the wilds of the New Mexico foothills? Why is my life of any concern to you at all? Why do you feel this need to tell lies, to invent stories, to twist events, to play the victim?

Upon what pretense do you base the asininity that your ideas about "eternal law" give you leave to demand legislation that affects, not you, but someone you would not recognize on a street corner?

It would be one thing is you, peronally, were being forced to participate in an act you found repugnant; it would even be another if you were insisting upon legislation to keep you from repugnant behaviour you were otherwise helpless to quit.

What possible right, or call, or commission, or mandate, can you colorably claim that licenses you to even comment upon, much less attempt to control, my behaviour, or my partner's behaviour, or our frequent and enthusiastic behaviour together; since, by your own admission, that behaviour does not affect you at all?
 
Sorry, duplicate post.

Edited to inquire: Janadele, if the public has a right to boycott a business for abhorrent practices, and (by your own admission) such behavior by the public is not harassment or oppression, what then, are you on about?

Have you any support for the rest of your bogus claims?
 
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desertgal said:
I agree, and I have experienced prejudice and bigotry from many Mormons myself. Absolutely. You can't live, as non-Mormon, in an almost exclusively (98%) Mormon enclave, and avoid it.

But I'm trying to be fair, too. Janadele is a very poor reflection of her church, yet, fortunately, there are those LDS members who lend some balance to the negative picture she represents. Ones who, like yourself when you were a member, try to love everyone and judge no one. I think we would both be remiss if we didn't say we've had that experience of some Mormons as well as the "prudish bigoted religious zealots" (excellent summation) like Janadele.

There's no bad without some good. :)
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Agreed which is why I made the point above. Religion is simply a means to exaggerate the good and bad in people. And we've seen just how ugly it can be. And those who spout such hateful and hurtful things honestly believe that they are righteous in their beliefs and they are on god's side. Which reminds me of a great Mitchel and Web episode.

That Mitchell And Webb Look - "Are We The Bad Guys"?
 
deaman said:
Janadele -

Are you trying to make people believe you worship the God of Love?
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It goes like this, in Janadeleland: post something disgustingly bigoted, then delete it and pretend she never said it. Gutsy, no?
 
halleyscomet said:
I thought you avoided anti-Momron sites?

Protip:

The next time you google for a random article that vaguely matches the view you're espousing, take a quick look at some of the other articles on the site to make sure it isn't a classless partisan rag lacking even a passing acquaintance with reality.

Then again, the site you linked calls Mormons a cult, equating y'all with Jehovah's Witnesses:
What Does Robert Jeffress Have in Common with Mitt Romney?

No Protestant on Presidential Ballot – First Time in History of U.S.
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Good point. Worth quoting here again. That's why I asked her if she had looked at other topics on the site, and why she believed what they said.
Frankly, I have not met many people as gullible as Janadele. I don't mean that to be cruel, just a fact.
 
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Janadele said:
That should be the prerogative of the employer / owner to decide. :)
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And if it got in the way of your life, your freedom, your pursuit of happiness, your ability to support your family? Would you still defend all the employers in your town preventing you from finding a job?

Then you move to a new town. The town loves Mormons. Now, they won't hire you because you have a limp, or red hair, or an accent, or a lisp, or a rash, or dandruff, or every shop in town hates women! Men are more reliable! Women are too emotional, etc.

Seriously. How can you defend this horrible bigotry?:confused: It's immoral Janadele.
 
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Janadele said:
That should be the prerogative of the employer / owner to decide. :)
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Except that, as a society, we decided that equal opportunity and treatment of others superseded the right of others to discriminate. It was essential steps during the civil rights movement. It is now simply being refelt for gay rights.
 
Olowkow said:
And if it got in the way of your life, your freedom, your pursuit of happiness, your ability to support your family? Would you still defend all the employers in your town preventing you from finding a job?

Then you move to a new town. The town loves Mormons. Now, they won't hire you because you have a limp, or red hair, or an accent, or a lisp, or a rash, or dandruff, or every shop in town hates women! Men are more reliable! Women are too emotional, etc.

Seriously. How can you defend this horrible bigotry?:confused: It's immoral Janadele.
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Speaking from experience, if you move to a town that is largely Mormon, the one question you are sure to be asked first and foremost is "Are you a member?"

Want to rent a house from a Mormon in a Mormon town? "Are you a member?"
Establish a line of credit at the local grocery? "Are you a member?"
Apply for a job at a local business? "Are you a member?"

It's happening somewhere right now. Go LDS!
 
I am curious about something. Janadele has posted some attitudes and beliefs in this thread that are, well, just plain awful. Janadele is an individual entitled to her personal prejudices, bigotry, and hatreds, and as she has freely admitted, we are entitled to respond with scorn and ridicule of her position.

However, she has stated these things in the name of the LDS Church.

So far, I have not seen any other LDS member speak out to unambiguously denounce the position she has claimed for the Church. I would have expected others to distance themselves from her morally bankrupt statements.

I find it curious this has not happened.
 
I suspect these two are the Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz of the caffeine free tea-partyism sect of Mormonism.
 
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