LDS II: The Mormons

[Akhenaten]

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[pakeha]

Slowvehicle: There are countless Christian Scriptural references condemning acts of homosexuality as serious sin in direct violation of the eternal purposes and commandments of God. Defining words of inference include: without natural affection, sodomy / sodomites, unnatural affection, unholy, impure sexual activity. Forcing the redefining of wholesome meanings to evil, trying to make right wrong and wrong right will be but a temporary Satanic triumph prior to ultimate destruction. These chains of Satan can be broken through genuine repentance and abandonment of this destructive soul destroying degrading lifestyle.
Moses warned homosexual relations were against God’s law.
The Third Book of Moses, Leviticus https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/lev/18.22-23?lang=eng#21
Chapter 20:
13. If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Chapter 18:
21...neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
22. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
25. And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
Paul preached that the acts of homosexuality and behaviour were sinful.
Romans Chapter 1"The wrath of God rests on those guilty of murder, homosexual practices, fornication, and other sins if the guilty do not repent." http://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/rom/1?lang=eng
21...but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
24...to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
26...unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
31. Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Wait.
Did you start this thread to post bigoted anti-gay nonsense yet again?

 

[Tassman]

Wait.
Did you start this thread to post bigoted anti-gay nonsense yet again?

But of course. It's Janadele's idée fixe.

 

[pakeha]

Possibly.
But of all 'abominations', why fix upon something we assume is so far from her own experience?
Why not fix upon bacon, as so many other posters have suggested?

 

[catsmate]

Easier to hate 'teh gays', than someone wearing clothing made with mixed fibers.

<Insert closet joke here>
Sorry, need tea. And chocolate.

Wait.
Did you start this thread to post bigoted anti-gay nonsense yet again?

Yes.

 

[Mahaha]

Will I ever find one of these religious thread in which the OP actually answers to people? Stop cherry picking your answers! You were asked like four times the amount of stuff you actually tried to answer.

And also, answer with something besides scripture...

If somebody asks me "Do you have proof that gravity exists?" I don't answer "Look, it's written here in this book." I show them with an experiment.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Ah, we're back to Janadele's 'evil gays' obsession.

Have a look at the chap sitting on the left in my avatar pic, Jandadele. Oscar Wilde, a gay man who left the world a far more valuable legacy than Joseph Smith and the entire Mormon church.

 

[angrysoba]

Scripture teaches us the Ever-Loving All-Loving Lord forgives us.

Sinners will burn in Hell for Eternity.

Those who doubt this will burn in Hell for longer.

 

[Megalodon]

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:2-3

How would you do this? Would you have killed the baby in his mother's arms, or saved the mother that horrible sight before you kill her? Would you put to the sword the daughter in front of her pleading father, or the father in front of his crying child?

Your god would be a monster, if he existed, the kind of deity only a truly barbaric people could come up with. And if you defend such plain justification for evil, what are you but evil yourself?

 

[tsig]

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:2-3

How would you do this? Would you have killed the baby in his mother's arms, or saved the mother that horrible sight before you kill her? Would you put to the sword the daughter in front of her pleading father, or the father in front of his crying child?

Your god would be a monster, if he existed, the kind of deity only a truly barbaric people could come up with. And if you defend such plain justification for evil, what are you but evil yourself?

According to William Lane Craig the real victims were the soldiers who had to kill the children, it caused them guilt and emotional scars.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

You know what's really disappointing?
When I saw the title of this thread I was still a bit tired and read 'CANADIAN' scriptures.
Alas, nothing nearly as entertaining as that.

 

[I Ratant]

According to William Lane Craig the real victims were the soldiers who had to kill the children, it caused them guilt and emotional scars.

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And found surcease of the agony by rustling rather than killing the livestock, you betcha!
Anyone that reads that kinda crap, which are the ravings of a crazy man with an abiding hate as the word of their "all-loving" diety has a serious set of blinders on!

 

[I Am The Scum]

http://www.lds.org/search?lang=eng&query=Eternal+marriage

"Abraham first received the gospel by baptism (which is the covenant of salvation). Then he had conferred upon him the higher priesthood, and he entered into celestial marriage (which is the covenant of exaltation), gaining assurance thereby that he would have eternal increase. Finally he received a promise that all of these blessings would be offered to all of his mortal posterity (D&C 132:29–50; Abr. 2:6–11).
Included in the divine promises to Abraham were the assurances that:
(1) Christ would come through his lineage, and that (2) Abraham’s posterity would receive certain lands as an eternal inheritance (Gen. 17; 22:15–18; Gal. 3; Abr. 2). These promises taken together are called the “Abrahamic covenant.” It was renewed with Isaac (Gen. 26:1–4, 24) and again with Jacob (Gen. 28; 35:9–13; 48:3–4). The portions of the covenant that pertain to personal salvation and eternal increase are renewed with each individual who receives the ordinance of celestial marriage (see D&C 132:29–33). "

But what about this?

"I can't judge any of you. I have no malice against you and no ribbons for you. But I think that it is high time that you all start looking at yourselves, and judging the lie that you live in."

 

[Megalodon]

According to William Lane Craig the real victims were the soldiers who had to kill the children, it caused them guilt and emotional scars.

In his defense, he is an abominable example of a human being, and easily mistaken for a lamentably eloquent sack of manure.

 

[halleyscomet]

God also advocates incestual rape, so I'm not sure he can be called a good judge of morality.

That is lies and slander.

Top 6 Incestuous Relationships In The Bible

 

[halleyscomet]

If all the OP scriptures came out of the books of Moses, i`d very very impressed.
Haunted, actually.
Where can i find these verses exactly?(and i mean THE actual verse... by book, chapter, verse)
I have both the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
If many of the OP scriptures were put in, in say the last couple hundred years, because of things science learned...well, then the BS meter starts going up.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.html

As a test of his faith and obedience. However, the Lord stayed his hand and Isaac was not harmed.

Police: Man claims God ordered him to kill

CG man says God told him to kill his mother

Badowski Says Killed Parents Because "God Told Me To"

Man who said God told him to attack tourist with cobblestone jailed
Paul Knipe gets four and a half years for smashing stone on South African visitor's head at York Minster, nearly killing him


Man says God told him to kill state trooper

 

[Aepervius]

But of course. It's Janadele's idée fixe.

She/he is annoyed that those fabulous gays are getting all the hot guys, leaving none for her/him.

 

[Aepervius]

Will I ever find one of these religious thread in which the OP actually answers to people?

No.

 

[halleyscomet]

Slowvehicle: You have persistently asked and asked and asked for my response. It has been given.

Jesus Christ is the Jehovah /God of the Old Testament, and the revelator to the Prophets.

If the Bible is the word of God, then your profound ignorance of the difference between the old and new covenants will see you damned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch

We are called to be either a gentile Christian or a Jewish Christian. By selectively clinging to the old covenant laws that support your bigotry you are declaring yourself not a Gentile, but a lukewarm, failed attempt at a Jewish Christian.

The only way you will avoid being spat out by God as neither hot nor cold will be if your entire religion is a fabrication, and you either slip into oblivion at death or are judged by another deity altogether.

 

[halleyscomet]

Vicarious ordinances, including Eternal Marriages, are sealed for Eternity on this earth... in The Temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Jesus says otherwise:

Luke 20:27-38

New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection and Marriage

27 Some of the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Jesus with a question. 28 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. The first one married a woman and died childless. 30 The second 31 and then the third married her, and in the same way the seven died, leaving no children. 32 Finally, the woman died too. 33 Now then, at the resurrection whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?”

34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection. 37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’[a] 38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”