KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked

And btw, there is no mention whatsoever in the charge sheet of KSM's confession.
 
Lindgren (photo here) holds a BA in Mathematics. He is a member of the Libertarian Party and former Vice-Chair of the LP of Wisconsin. He has extensive experience dealing with the federal criminal “justice” system. He is a 9/11 researcher since 2006, when he first met Dr. Kevin Barrett. He has a bachelor’s degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He works as a Loan Officer and lives in Middleton, Wisconsin. Rolf is a defender of Galileo and James Madison.
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In other words, you were charged with a federal crime?
 
tuc0 said:
31. On or about March 22, 2000, Mohamed Atta (AA #11) sent an email from Germany to several flight schools in the United States stating, “we are a small group (2-3) of joung [sic] men from different arab countries… We would like to start training for the career of airline professional pilots.”

[This is great evidence for the defense if there is a paper trail, which seems to be the case. It shows that Atta and probably Binalshibh want to be career professional pilots, not martyrs. What was Atta’s email address, by the way? According to one report, it was mohammedatta@hotmail.com. Where are the rest of Atta’s emails and what do they say? Why did Atta use a variant spelling of his name on his own email address? If Atta was in a secret sleeper cell, why not use a less obvious email? Did the government release all of Atta’s email to the defense on discovery? The government has a propensity to frame defendants by withholding exculpatory evidence during discovery.]
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Gee, he wanted to learn to fly so he could command a hijacked aircraft. I cannot for the life of me understand then why he would lie and state he just wants to become a professional airline pilot.:rolleyes:
 
Galileo,

When they said “we are a small group (2-3) of joung [sic] men from different arab countries… We would like to start training for the career of airline professional pilots.” why is this evidence that they did not want to learn to fly in order to carry out suicide hijackings?

Does Rolf or Barrett expect that they would have stated that they wished to learn to fly aircraft so that they could hijack them, fly them into targets that are the symbols of the wealth and power of their infidel enemies, and kill as many of their enemies as possible?
 
Galileo said:
so who here thinks Kahtani is guilty?
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When he was asked why he had no return ticket when attempting to enter the USA he got threatening and angry and could only state that he did not know where he was going when he was leaving USA.

That is at the very least as suspicious as anything the TM brings to the table as far as the actions of Bush, Rumsfeld or Cheney on 9/11.

double standard of proof in the TM?
 
jaydeehess said:
Galileo,

When they said “we are a small group (2-3) of joung [sic] men from different arab countries… We would like to start training for the career of airline professional pilots.” why is this evidence that they did not want to learn to fly in order to carry out suicide hijackings?

Does Rolf or Barrett expect that they would have stated that they wished to learn to fly aircraft so that they could hijack them, fly them into targets that are the symbols of the wealth and power of their infidel enemies, and kill as many of their enemies as possible?
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you are presuming Atta is guilty. A man on trial is presumed innocent. According to the email, Atta wants a career as an airline pilot.
 
jaydeehess said:
When he was asked why he had no return ticket when attempting to enter the USA he got threatening and angry and could only state that he did not know where he was going when he was leaving USA.

That is at the very least as suspicious as anything the TM brings to the table as far as the actions of Bush, Rumsfeld or Cheney on 9/11.

double standard of proof in the TM?
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It might sound suspicious to you because you are a conspiracy theorist. It sounds to me like he spoke poor English.

Even if it was suspicious, it is not proof he was in a plot to committ mass murder.

According to your logic, anyone who does anything you deem suspicious is guilty of mass murder.
 
JamesB said:
Oddly enough Barrett listed the charges, but he didn't address the summary of evidence that the DoD posted. Galileo, why do you think that is? Think it... slipped his mind?

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/CSRT_Summary_of_Evidence_memo_for_Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed
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DoD press releases are not evidence.

The computer in DoD custody is not KSM's, nor do any communications from it to other defendants exist, hence the computer is not an overt act.

None of the "evidence" cited on the DoD press release has any known connection to the charge sheet.

Also, it says the computer had a photo of Atta on it. Well, I'm sure you have a photo of Atta on your computer as well, as does Fox News, CBS, NBC, etc. In fact, anyone who read the online news in the days after 9/11 probably has a photo of Atta on their computer. Alleged overt act # 165 says that KSM recorded the news on 9/11 and up until 9/21, so he would obviously have a photo of Atta on his computer.

Also, Barrett did not ignore the DoD "fact" sheet. I did.
 
Galileo said:
According to your logic, anyone who does anything you deem suspicious is guilty of mass murder.
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Dude. "Acting suspicious", both real and imagined, is one of the major criteria for truthers deciding culpability. Project much?
 
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zorro99 said:
And btw, there is no mention whatsoever in the charge sheet of KSM's confession.
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KSM's "confession" should not be admitted as evidence because he was tortured.

I would not believe what a terrorist says anyway.
 
twinstead said:
Dude. "Acting suspicious", both real and imagined, is one of the major criteria for truthers deciding culpability. Project much?
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You must have me mixed up with someone else. Possibly a case of mistaken identity. Maybe it was my alias that did it.
 
Galileo said:
your logic is faulty.
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Hmmmm let's see...


[B said:
Galileo[/b] ]
According to your logic, anyone who does anything you deem suspicious is guilty of mass murder.
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Nope that's the truth movement.

Don't worry you're used to being wrong.
 
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