Kirk Cameron Pays Gang Members to Preach to Them

[lolurigeller]

Oh really? could you share a little more in detail about that?

I myself like Kirk and think he is doing a good work in serving the Lord.

Sin is real and everyone needs to acknowlege that. I think you can see evidence of what sin does in peoples lives and even that reveals the truth about God's word being true. The people that deny that evidence are living in total denial!

::sigh::

And what happens when you find out you are wrong?

 

[Miss Anthrope]

Kathy cannot be wrong. Been there done that.

 

[Azure]

::sigh::

And what happens when you find out you are wrong?

How will she find out?

What happens when YOU find out YOU are wrong?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Did Azure just invoke Pascal's Wager?

 

[lolurigeller]

How will she find out?

What happens when YOU find out YOU are wrong?

What happens when single celled amoeba, dogs, cats, and oxen find out when the gods they worship are wrong and they are sent to the burning fires of hell?

(hell are they even able to understand a rational concept of god and Jesus?)

All this discussion about god, jesus imo is a complete waste of time.

 

[strathmeyer]

I don't want anyone to be punished, that's the point. If you receive Christ you won't stand before the great throne of judgemnet, you stand before Christ and your place in heaven will be determined by how you lived your life for Christ. Jesus makes promises to reward those who follow him but that's not the big deal, salvation is. There I'm done I just want what Kirk wants for people to have the chance to go to heaven instead of hell!

I you don't want me to be punished, why don't you take the steps necessary to stop me from being punished?

 

[Azure]

What happens when single celled amoeba, dogs, cats, and oxen find out when the gods they worship are wrong and they are sent to the burning fires of hell?

(hell are they even able to understand a rational concept of god and Jesus?)

All this discussion about god, jesus imo is a complete waste of time.

Then why did you respond?

In fact, why are you even reading the religious section of this forum if you think it is a complete waste of time?

Go away. I don't care what you think is a complete waste of time. Some of us enjoy debating this stuff.

 

[Azure]

Did Azure just invoke Pascal's Wager?

Point is...for the sake of argument..if Kathy is right...she'll obviously know it, as she will end up in heaven and the rest of us will end up in hell.

But if she's wrong....she'll die...and NEVER know that she was wrong.

Personally I think the belief of 'you should be religious, just to make sure all ends are covered' is a bit dumb, but that is just my opinion.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Actually, with the many religions and concepts of gods, if the other concepts that don't include Kathy's are right, she could still be wrong and know it. ;-)

 

[lolurigeller]

Then why did you respond?

Because i'm a joker and I won't go away, because crazy people like you make life interesting and enertaining in a rather sadistic-masochistic way for me.

Your pascal's wager isn't worth the fear, guilt, and conditioned bullsh*t that prevent you from being able to live a life worth living, and acts as a big obstacle on the search for truth. I am truly sad for you if you actually believe what kathy says is the truth.

edit: Awww..... You didn't answer my question about plants, animals, and fish going to hell for not believing in Jesus.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

Go away. I don't care what you think is a complete waste of time. Some of us enjoy debating this stuff.

Except that in all my experience with Kathy, she doesn't debate. She preaches. There is a distinction.

 

[Azure]

Because i'm a joker and I won't go away, because crazy people like you make life interesting and enertaining in a rather sadistic-masochistic way for me.

Your pascal's wager isn't worth the fear, guilt, and conditioned bullsh*t that prevent you from being able to live a life worth living, and acts as a big obstacle on the search for truth. I am truly sad for you if you actually believe what kathy says is the truth.

edit: Awww..... You didn't answer my question about plants, animals, and fish going to hell for not believing in Jesus.

Hahahahaha....you're as arrogant as Kathy if you believe my life is restricted because of what I believe.

 

[jezzedout]

(I'll bite.)

You see what you want to see to support your religious indoctrination.

If I decide to do drugs and start shooting up, my behavior places me at an increased risk for infection, overdose, robbery, loss of my career and possessions--all the ingredients for a drastically reduced quality of life followed by a premature death. These are the logical--and more importantly, perfectly natural--consequences of extremely irresponsible behavior. Your deity doesn't factor into this equation. An addict lying dead in a gutter may serve as evidence for many things, but not for your imaginary supernatural being or the "wages of sin". One of the problems I have with Christianity in general is the dearth of personal accountability among its adherents: everything is either the fault of sin or Satan rather than stupid decisions. But then again, most religions frown on critical thinking; they want weak, needy, broken people who believe they are powerless to take control of their own lives. Such people are more than willing to fork over cash to buy "protection" from the Great God Guido. You have to wonder if these people ever consider the fact that their deity of choice bears more than a striking resemblance to a strongarm racketeer.

My guess would be no. Such thoughts are "of the Devil".