Kirk Cameron Pays Gang Members to Preach to Them

[Miss Anthrope]

I've picked up and fired an automatic weapon once. Yay! I'm Rambo forever!

 

[Hokulele]

I bumped the thread for JF's sake where we had originally planned to discuss reading some books. I noticed JF is busy posting here, but not there. So, does this mean that since JF publically declared his intention to read a book of my choice (and I one of his) and is now avoiding the task, he could be described as a liar?

 

[grayman]

I once believed in a God, ergo, I must be a fundie.

 

[largeprimenumber]

Well I would say you are half right...you only have to rape once to be a rapist...lie once to be a liar....steal once to be a thief...it's quite simple

The point is not that Mr. Cameron is wrong or right to call someone who lied once a "liar" or one who stole once a "thief". The point is that those are minor and easily excused offenses.

What you're doing here is equating someone who has raped a person to someone who has told a white lie or stolen a candy bar.

And technically, terms like "rapist" or "thief" are contextual. Someone who once raped, but no longer rapes is no longer a rapist, but still the rapist of that rape. An artist who once painted but no longer paints is no longer an artist, but is still the artist of those works.

God, this is distasteful.

 

[Reager]

I apologize if hysterical you tube video has been posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVco8t-R8KU

I caught the middle of this on TV late one night...always wondered why these guys weren't beating the &*@%! out of him.

 

[Madalch]

I caught the middle of this on TV late one night...always wondered why these guys weren't beating the &*@%! out of him.

They were waiting until the camera was turned off.

And they had sent someone out to get a banana.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

I caught the middle of this on TV late one night...always wondered why these guys weren't beating the &*@%! out of him.

See, we learned something from this. When in a gang riddled area, bring a camera crew and lots of 20's. Maybe bananas.

 

[FenrisWolf]

Homeowner to Nazi's: No, I haven't got any jews hiding in here. (Nazi's leave )

God: burn in hell, liar!

Some Guy: sorry Miss anthrope i just raped your mother..

Miss anthrope: Thats ok...I'm sure you had your reasons, I still think you are a good person.

jesus_freak, I've read the gospels. Based on how they portray Jesus, how do you think Jesus would have responded to a rapist who came up to him and said "Sorry Jesus, I just raped Mary." Assume the "sorry" part represents real contrition.

Second, if your understanding of god is that he feels a lie is just as bad as a rape, regardless of the motive for the lie, why do you think this is a god anybody would want to follow?

 

[VulcanWay]

The point is not that Mr. Cameron is wrong or right to call someone who lied once a "liar" or one who stole once a "thief". The point is that those are minor and easily excused offenses.

Jesus_Freak's point is that there is no such thing as an "easily excused" or "minor" sin, since even one unforgiven sin on your soul will still send you to hell.

I've never met a single Christian that followed Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns." If you work on Sunday (no lawn mowing, kitchen cleaning, catching up on Emails from the office, etc) does that label you a "worker" then? Oh, and mind your slaves! God is cool with that.

 

[LibraryLady]

[QUOTEHomeowner to Nazi's: No, I haven't got any jews hiding in here. (Nazi's leave )

God: burn in hell, liar!
]

Some Guy: sorry Miss anthrope i just raped your mother..

Miss anthrope: Thats ok...I'm sure you had your reasons, I still think you are a good person.

Did I just totally misread this, or is JF comparing someone who saved a Jewish life to a rapist? Please, tell me I misread it.

Please.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

I've never met a single Christian that followed Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns." If you work on Sunday (no lawn mowing, kitchen cleaning, catching up on Emails from the office, etc) does that label you a "worker" then? Oh, and mind your slaves! God is cool with that.

I have known some Seventh Day Adventists who very strictly observed the sabbath on Saturday, just like very observant jews. Wouldn't even turn a light on, these folks.

 

[VulcanWay]

Did I just totally misread this, or is JF comparing someone who saved a Jewish life to a rapist? Please, tell me I misread it.

Please.

Christianly (is that a word?) speaking a sin is a sin is a sin.

Unless you're Catholic, then there are venial sins^WP and mortal sins^WP. And then depending on how you look at it, the protecting the Jews by lying to the Nazis could still be considered a mortal sin. There's no such thing as sinning for a good reason, after all...

 

[VulcanWay]

I have known some Seventh Day Adventists who very strictly observed the sabbath on Saturday, just like very observant jews. Wouldn't even turn a light on, these folks.

But do they let their slaves rest too??

Sorry, my original post there was very illogical - of course there are some out there that follow that commandment. I let some frustration get in there, so thanks for noting it, MA.

 

[Tanstaafl]

Did I just totally misread this, or is JF comparing someone who saved a Jewish life to a rapist? Please, tell me I misread it.

Please.

I wish I could tell you that. Unfortunately I think that's exactly what he's doing.

Both have committed a sin and are deserving of eternal torture, according to the all knowing, all powerful god.

It just makes sense.

 

[LibraryLady]

Christianly (is that a word?) speaking a sin is a sin is a sin.

Unless you're Catholic, then there are venial sins^WP and mortal sins^WP. And then depending on how you look at it, the protecting the Jews by lying to the Nazis could still be considered a mortal sin. There's no such thing as sinning for a good reason, after all...

Okay, so another reason not to embrace Christianity.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

But do they let their slaves rest too??

I didn't ask

 

[Jon.]

I like how Kirk seemed to think his heart was in the right side of his chest (look at him point to his "heart" when he's talking about the Sermon on the Mount). Apparently, his grasp of human physiology is as good as his grasp of biology generally.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

I like how Kirk seemed to think his heart was in the right side of his chest (look at him point to his "heart" when he's talking about the Sermon on the Mount). Apparently, his grasp of human physiology is as good as his grasp of biology generally.

A real rocket surgeon.

 

[brodski]

Stalin once believed in the Divinity of Christ- he was therefore a Christian.

I like this logic.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Is it me or does Kirk take on slight (and intermittent) Spanish accent in that video?