Keyes vs. Obama

[Patrick]

So do you think people with no experience should ever be elected Senators?

Like Hillary, you mean? The "experience" - meaning legislative experience, is a bogus issue, even for Hillary. If legislative experience means the nuts and bolts of bills going through the legislature, new legislators pick that up, or get it from colleagues or party leaders, and if I remember correctly, the U.S. congress holds "schools" for new members after every election. Elections should really only turn on the intellect, character, positions, and ideology of the candidates. In picking at these micro things like pronunciation variations, etc, dems are only revealing their fear that they may actually face a real challenge for a senate seat that they thought they would get for free, buoyed along by a wave of uncritical liberal media establishment cheerleading.

 

[Whoracle]

I don't think any liberal is worried about Keyes. Obama has got it locked up.

 

[Rouser2]

I don't think any liberal is worried about Keyes. Obama has got it locked up.

Oh, but there is indeed one liberal who is very worried -- alas -- Barac Obama. Orginally the Annointed One said he thought it would be just great to have nine debates -- air out all of the issues. But now that Keyes has become his opponent, the future star of the democrat party says that, uh, well, just two, will do. He might be wondering if there really could be a majority of eligible voters who favor prosecuting persons who use deadly force to thwart home invaders, yet in favor of allowing partially birthed infants to be slaughtered. If Illinois voters don't know that's what Obama stands for, they soon will.

-- Rouser

 

[LostAngeles]

In recent news, Keyes has claimed the Obama has taken the "slaveholder's position" because he did not vote for a law banning late term abortions. Obama counters that law did not have an exception for the life of the mother and that Keyes should "check with his party" on using that kind of language.

Keyes, probably not with it.

Story here.

 

[Patrick]

Keyes has a first-rate intellect and talks like it -- knows the facts, fast on his feet. If Obama's cliche-ridden convention pseudo-speech is typical of what he can do, Keyes will make mincemeat out of him. He'll probably have to pull his punches a little, so the media's darling little boy doesn't get a sympathy vote.

 

[Nova Land]

Keyes has a first-rate intellect and talks like it -- knows the facts, fast on his feet. If Obama's cliche-ridden convention pseudo-speech is typical of what he can do, Keyes will make mincemeat out of him. He'll probably have to pull his punches a little, so the media's darling little boy doesn't get a sympathy vote.

I think it is often good for skeptics to live a little bit in the past.

By which I mean that, while it is often tempting to react immediately to breaking news stories, it is often worth while to revisit stories after a little time has passed. Sometimes the passage of time puts the news into better focus, as well as letting us judge our own reactions (and the reactions of others) to those stories better.

One reason I enjoy posting in the Puzzles section of the forum is that it allows me to see how well my brain is working. Often when I'm short on sleep my judgment is off and I post answers that have little bearing on the problem posed. The nice thing about puzzles is it's easy to realize that quickly (and to hold one's tongue -- or keyboard -- until one feels more capable of rational thought.)

In politics it often takes a bit longer to get that kind of feedback, which is why it's good to go back every so often and review one's own posts, and the posts of others, to get a sense of who is generally worth paying attention to and who is not.

Here is an example of a post well worth revisiting.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Nova, he said Keyes would have to pull punches - not you. Patrick is like a pinata of bad judgement, bad science and nutty wack-job politics. Feel free to whack him with a stick - only it's not candy that comes out.

In the american reckoning, that makes Obama black, although there is a growing movement, opposed for obvious reasons by black leaders, by such persons to identify themselves as "mixed race" instead of black. Further, Keyes may not be 100% black - the average black in the U.S. has 25% white heritage.

For that to be true, idiot, the average black would have to have one white grandparent - meaning that interracial marriage would have to be far more prevalent than it is. Once again, you make sheeyit up and try to float it as fact.

Hey, well look at Lurch: He had mailing addresses in three congressional districts in 1972. He and Dirt Bag had a house in Worcester where he considered challenging a democrat incumbent. They never lived in the house. BZZZZZTT!!! Brainflash - lets try another district - he rented an aprtment in Lowell. Trying to show he had "roots" in that district, he said "I learned to walk in the fifth district" - referring to the one year he spent there as a toddler - that sure must have given him the local pulse, right?.

Yeah, how dare Kerry be senator of Massachusetts when he grew up and lived mostly in Massachusetts......

Keyes international experience is much more in line with the decisions made by the senate.

How does Keyes' "international" experience give him experience in representing Illinois on national issues? Or experience in Illinois whatsoever? You're real dumb.

How can one get experience in national legislative matters for a state without having been a national legistator for said state?

You CAN'T - which is another reason why the criticism of Keyes is invalid.

And why the criticism of OBAMA is invalid. You are stupid, peace be to allah.

Yaaaaa .... did they declare war on afghanistan? Deal with the illegal aliens in california? Send probes to mars? Approve the Kyoto treaty? Set U.S. trade policy? Approve U.S. Supreme Court nominees? Launch the carrier Ronald Reagan?

You're an idiot! How would Illinois state senators have anything to do with California? But the California state senators DID deal with illegal aliens, DID set some US trade policy in California, and no state senators have the authority to do the other stuff. You are really this stupid, aren't you, lord be my guide.

On top of that, did Alan Keyes do ANY of those things? No! He hasn't held an office because no one wants him in there! He is a multiple loser, just like you.

Cringeresearch

He could have said that he responded to people's calls 'like a Domino's delivery driver', but it just wouldn't have had the same effect.

It would have been more accurate. The Republicans ordered one black candidate, and he showed up in 30 minutes. Only he won't "deliver" the votes.