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I tried to follow the source, but all the "news" articals are circularly referential, except for a quote attributed to the London Sun by the girls parents. I could not locate that on the sun site?? The only other info is the Drudge report. Does anybody have a linkthat is a source?( beside Drudge)
 
Drudge Reports:
"I Jumped the Gun!!!!! Rumors False!!!!"
http://drudgereport.com/

Not!

But notice the bias in the headlines:
"Bush Orders Full Disclosure"
Yeah, only about 6 years overdue. Wonder what he was waiting for?
Full disclosure? He won't personally answer the question: "Did you show up?" That's all he needs to do. Go on the record.

The Kerry story, so far is about Drudge reporting a story.

Someone's gonna go down.
 
subgenius said:

The Kerry story, so far is about Drudge reporting a story.

Someone's gonna go down.

For the plebians perhaps, the story I want to see if how Drudge got duped and who was feeding the info.
 
Drudge is the biggest ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ on the web. I hadn't looked at his website since the day he revealed the ending of "The Planet of the Apes," up until I needed to go there to see Janet Jackson's boob jewelry.

The point is, up until the Planet of the Apes fiasco, I read his site regularly, and he very rarely ever had a true scoop. The Lewinsky story was being worked on by Newsweek, and they were doing the regular journalistic things, like trying to confirm factual stuff, when he caught wind of it and did the regular Drudge thing, which was to post unsubstantiated rumours.
 
hgc said:
Drudge is the biggest ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ on the web. I hadn't looked at his website since the day he revealed the ending of "The Planet of the Apes," up until I needed to go there to see Janet Jackson's boob jewelry.

The point is, up until the Planet of the Apes fiasco, I read his site regularly, and he very rarely ever had a true scoop. The Lewinsky story was being worked on by Newsweek, and they were doing the regular journalistic things, like trying to confirm factual stuff, when he caught wind of it and did the regular Drudge thing, which was to post unsubstantiated rumours.
Yeah, the only credibility he's got on this story is everyone saying "He broke the Lewinsky thing".
In fact he even cites himself ..."...the Monica Lewinsky drama, which first played out publicly in this space....."
http://drudgereport.com/mattjk6.htm

Even a blind squirrel....
It also serves to equate the two in people's minds.

But he has no bias according to some. Just the scoop, maam.
 
Most of Drudge's stuff comes from reporters and journalists. He's rarely wrong, but never truly 'scoops' - he just breaks stories the other outlets are in the process of vetting. His info usually comes from the journalists that are working on the story.
 
So what does this all mean? That some major papers are quoting each other about a story that exists on a rumor BBS ,who heard it ,maybe, from some reporters that were investigating a rumor by person(s) unknown?
 
TillEulenspiegel said:
So what does this all mean? That some major papers are quoting each other about a story that exists on a rumor BBS ,who heard it ,maybe, from some reporters that were investigating a rumor by person(s) unknown?
That's about it so far. The media reporting about itself. A kind of mutual masturbation.
Good Slate article about how you make this a story.
Great restraint shown by the major outlets, so far, in not even reporting that people are reporting on it.
 
To America and all the ships at sea, this is sg your "fair and balanced" reporter reporting what the reporters are reporting:
"THE beauty said to have had a fling with presidential hopeful John Kerry has recorded a bombshell tell-all interview.

Journalist Alex Polier taped a talk with a US TV network at Christmas.

The former Washington intern, 27, told all about an alleged fling with the 60-year-old super-rich senator in spring 2001.
The channel is sitting on the tape until it has enough evidence to back her story.

If the sex claims are true, they would shatter his White House hopes.

Kerry, a married dad of two, has denied the fling. But Alex told pals she fled to Kenya on his suggestion.

One TV source said: “She wants to tell her story. She has talked at length about her relationship with Kerry. But no one is believing her.”

Kerry was front-runner for the Democratic nomination to take on George Bush in November.

His hopes were hit as hints of a scandal emerged.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004072203,00.html

And in an unbelievably lame attempt to pre-emptively show his "fairness and balance" Drudge offers the following to show that Bush I was subjected to the same kind of scrutiny.
http://drudgereport.com/mattht.htm
 
corplinx said:


Its only February and already you and Zero are playing defense for him here on the forum.
I don't know about Clancie, but I am "playing defense" for honesty in the media. As others have posted to this thread, the media is mostly quoting each other; instead of breaking the news, the media is making the news, and in fact the media is the news in this situation.

I've come to the same conclusion about the "Bush AWOL" situation as well, BTW. The media is doing a disservice to the American people yet again.
 
Posted by Zero

I don't know about Clancie, but I am "playing defense" for honesty in the media.
Yes, that's my purpose, too, Zero. I'm very tired of the bias I see in media, especially the unlabelled editorial comments by many tv "journalists" who are supposed to be reporting facts.
I've come to the same conclusion about the "Bush AWOL" situation as well, BTW.
Well, we disagree there, I guess,. Originally, I felt it was a non-issue, too (mainly because it would be no surprise to me if the young GWB -was- a bit of a goof-off, and...so what? :confused: ).

But, watching his inability to answer the direct question, "Did you actually show up for your required service in Alabama?" has changed my mind.

Bush ran in 2000 on his "character" and honesty which was, supposedly, so much better than Clinton's. Well, since that's his claim...character and honesty...then I think it -is- an issue if he can't give an honest answer to a simple question.

"I have paycheck stubs" and "I got an honorable discharge" just are -not- answers to the question, "Did you fulfill your National Guard service in Alabama?"

After all...he was given the privilege of being admitted to the Guard...the privilege of getting out 8 months early (so he could enjoy the privilege of being accepted into Harvard, despite his mediocre grades)...and the special privilege of being allowed to go to Alabama to do what he wanted (work on a campaign) and still meet Guard service on weekends.

If he didn't even complete this minimal requirement (even while giving lip service to a war that other men were -dying- for)...and he is -dishonest- about not serving in even this minimal way...well, yes, I think that's a legitimate character issue.
 
Clancie said:

Yes, that's my purpose, too, Zero. I'm very tired of the bias I see in media, especially the unlabelled editorial comments by many tv "journalists" who are supposed to be reporting facts.

Well, we disagree there, I guess,. Originally, I felt it was a non-issue, too (mainly because it would be no surprise to me if the young GWB -was- a bit of a goof-off, and...so what? :confused: ).

But, watching his inability to answer the direct question, "Did you actually show up for your required service in Alabama?" has changed my mind.

Bush ran in 2000 on his "character" and honesty which was, supposedly, so much better than Clinton's. Well, since that's his claim...character and honesty...then I think it -is- an issue if he can't give an honest answer to a simple question.

"I have paycheck stubs" and "I got an honorable discharge" just are -not- answers to the question, "Did you fulfill your National Guard service in Alabama?"

After all...he was given the privilege of being admitted to the Guard...the privilege of getting out 8 months early (so he could enjoy the privilege of being accepted into Harvard, despite his mediocre grades)...and the special privilege of being allowed to go to Alabama to do what he wanted (work on a campaign) and still meet Guard service on weekends.

If he didn't even complete this minimal requirement (even while giving lip service to a war that other men were -dying- for)...and he is -dishonest- about not serving in even this minimal way...well, yes, I think that's a legitimate character issue.
No no no!! LOL, I sort of agree with you, but my point is that the media handling of the "Bush AWOL" story is another case of the media screwing things up. The media seems to accept each new story from Bush, without checking it against the last few stories. I seem to recall a White House spokesman claiming that Bush had missed some drills, and made them up later. Now, according to media sources, they are claiming that he didn't miss any. Which one is it?

Don't expect the media to tell you, they are too lazy to find out. Instead, they keep quoting each other's quotes from the White House spokespeople.
 
I like the way the whole story is apparently a lie, from her being an intern to her fleeing the country...the problem is that the accusations are on the front page, and the retractions are buried deeper in the paper. Further, as in the Clinton and Gore fiascos, right-wing liars and members of the media at large will likely continue to repeat the story for the rest of the year, minus the denials from all those involved.
 
Zero said:
I like the way the whole story is apparently a lie, from her being an intern to her fleeing the country...the problem is that the accusations are on the front page, and the retractions are buried deeper in the paper.

According to the Drudge report, Clark said "Kerry has an intern problem". Whether that was literal or figurative was not established.
 
corplinx said:


According to the Drudge report, Clark said "Kerry has an intern problem". Whether that was literal or figurative was not established.
NOTHING was established...it came from Drudge, didn't it?
 

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