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Kerry Infidelity?

You're right, zero. It might be fun in the future to time the process. (My bet is that it hits CNN tonight, certainly Fox and just as you say...as being from Drudge online--with no description of him as a right wing flunky...to newspapers "around the country"...to attributions and denials from Clark...to the Sun article about the parents...all innuendo but effectively putting gossip into people's minds as if it is fact).

Rove is slime, but good at it. Even after (imo) he got a reporter (Bob Novak) to out that CIA operative so the White House could intimidate her husband, this process of spreading rumors through their right wing journalist/flunkies still works like a charm.

"Jane Fonda"..."infidelity"....being anti-military...they've done all of them this week. What will be next? Drug use? Cowardice under fire? Being more liberal than Ted Kennedy? A hatred of people living in battleground states? Reports that Kerry made a bigoted or sexist joke at a party?

No doubt about it. They are running scared.
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I don't care about the sex lives of any of the candidates, so long as they don't get caught lying under oath...
 
Clancie said:
You're right, zero.
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Wiser words have never been spoken(except by me, obviously...;) )

Seriously, I have watched the dirty tricks the right uses, and this is classic. And, we will as always see the media bias in play...the "we're too lazy to research anything" bias. The media will run with one of these rumors, they wil likelyl be debunked, and the media will ignore it and keep running with the more "sexy" story.
 
Kerry

All I have seen so far, is what looks to be rumor, with no evidence of anything.

Could be true, but could also be dirty trick. Would like to wait and see.

While many say it doesn't matter if it is true or not, I feel that if it is, then Kerry is gone.

If not true, then he could get a boost, and the other party will be hurt.
 
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While many say it doesn't matter if it is true or not, I feel that if it is, then Kerry is gone.
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Nightwind,

I'm curious. If it turned out that Bush had an affair in the years before becoming President, do you think many Republicans would vote for the Democrat instead?

Or do you think that Bush's infidelity would be rationalized away (like the DUI was, as the Alabama Guard service is....)...as part of his wild past..."but he's a changed man now so we forgive him"?
 
Whole issue is much ado about nothing.

Hey I just heard Rush on the radio claim he thinks the Hillary dems are out to destroy Kerry so she can run in 2008!
 
BTox said:
Whole issue is much ado about nothing.

Hey I just heard Rush on the radio claim he thinks the Hillary dems are out to destroy Kerry so she can run in 2008!
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She can't run in '08 if Kerry wins... :D
 
I don't think most Dems want Hillary to run. She's too polarizing and will never, ever win enough of the battleground states. It would be an electoral college disaster.

Republicans might want her to run, though (especially since it would get her out of the Senate, too, where she is very effective. :) ).
 
Frankly I'm more upset about these allegations:
Sydney H. Schanberg, associate editor and columnist for New York Newsday and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist veteran of the Indochina War whose book, The Death and Life of Dith Pran, became the subject of the Academy Award-winning film The Killing Fields, chronicled some of Kerry's more blatant pro-Hanoi biases in several of his columns.

In a Nov. 21, 1993 column, Schanberg wrote, "Highly credible information has been surfacing in recent days which indicates that the headlines you have been reading about a 'breakthrough' in Hanoi's cooperation on the POW/MIA issue are part of a carefully scripted performance. The apparent purpose is to move toward normalization of relations with Hanoi.

"Sen. John F. Kerry, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, is one of the key figures pushing for normalization. Kerry is currently on a visit to Vietnam where he has been doing two things: (1) praising the Vietnamese effusively for granting access to their war archives and (2) telling the press that there's no believable evidence to back up the stories of live POWs still being held. "Ironically, that very kind of live-POW evidence has been brought to Kerry's own committee on a regular basis over the past year, and he has repeatedly sought to impeach its value. Moreover, Kerry and his allies on the committee - such as Sens. John McCain, Nancy Kassebaum and Tom Daschle - have worked to block much of this evidence from being made public."
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I wonder how long it will be before this allegation resurfaces in the media?

-z
 
rikzilla said:
Frankly I'm more upset about these allegations:


I wonder how long it will be before this allegation resurfaces in the media?

-z
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Well, at least it is relevant to job performance...
 
"Highly credible information"....

rofl, rikzilla. I think we'll be hearing a lot of those phrases (right along with "unnamed sources close to Kerry say..." and "speaking off the record, a high ranking member of ....")

Innuendo, unattributed "sources", dirty tricks, and rumors work wonders though! So its a given that we'll be seeing a lot of them!.... :(

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P.S. CNN just carried the Internet story on Kerry in a piece about "the race for the White House heats up"....

It took less than 48 hours to go from Drudge's smear to the mainstream press on television! Rove deserves a raise!
 
Clancie said:


P.S. CNN just carried the Internet story on Kerry in a piece about "the race for the White House heats up"....

It took less than 48 hours to go from Drudge's smear to the mainstream press on television! Rove deserves a raise!
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Can you link us, or is it not online yet?
 
Re: Re: Kerry Infidelity?

Grammatron:
Personally, I don't care if he cheats on his wife daily as long as he can do a good job as a president...
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Well said! Well done (especially for an American :))

Really, who the humping hell cares which chickens or guys or women some candidate has been humping? It is completely irrelevant! The sexual history of politicians in this country are never of the slightest interest and aren't even reported in the press.

What is the fundamental flaw here with the 'mericans? Could it be, oh I don't know, that they are generally PRUDES?:)
 
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DanishDynamite said:
Grammatron:Well said! Well done (especially for an American :))

Really, who the humping hell cares which chickens or guys or women some candidate has been humping? It is completely irrelevant! The sexual history of politicians in this country are never of the slightest interest and aren't even reported in the press.

What is the fundamental flaw here with the 'mericans? Could it be, oh I don't know, that they are generally PRUDES?:)
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Thanks for the praise, even if it's coming from a Danish :)

I don't think it's prudish, this is all purely political and probably won't even hurt him. Let's not forget that he's a Catholic and can absolve himself of any wrong doing in seconds. :)
 
Kerry

If there was an affair, and it occurred some time ago, then there probably will not be a problem.

However, if it was somewhat recent, then I do believe that it could overshadow everything else.

The issue will probably be fueled mainly by media. Opposing politicians will be careful, because they don't want their dirty laundry aired.

Still looks like could be dirty trick though, although I noticed Kerry's response is quite interesting.
 
rikzilla said:
Frankly I'm more upset about these allegations
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rik,
Good grief, what allegations? That Kerry showed the political courage to tell people who were maintaining hopes for the return of lost loved ones based on crack pot theories, forged evidence, and evidence that had less quality than the evidence that JE talks to dead people that. sadly, there was no realistic hope that their loved ones were alive.

Boy, maybe I'm missing something here, but what in the world was your point?
 
Clancie said:
Probably, yes. I'd take that much more seriously than I would if he cheated on his wife. Why? Because business conduct is an indication of how you do your job, and running for President is basically applying for a job
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Well, coming from the position of my self acknowledged superior intellect on this issue, I will grant that this is not a completely unreasonable way to look at the situation.

Still, affairs at times are far more damaging to the lives of the people close to the person carrying out the affair than a little cheating on a business partner. The consequences can be devastating to everybody involved and include the transmission of veneral disease, out of wed lock pregnancies, violence by an overthrown mistress, blackmail, or even relatively minor things like time stolen from the family. Some of these consequences are so significant that they absolutely will have negative affects on the ability of a person to do their job.

So for me a candidate's infidelity remains a significant issue.
 
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