• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Kamala Harris Election Campaign

A Cheney campaigning for a Dem prez nominee. I guess it does snow in hell and pigs do fly.

I'd ask if anyone wanted to make a bet if Pence will endorse Harris as an October surprise, but I know there's at least one person here who's obsessed with betting markets and would probably start pestering me to actually do it, so I won't. You get the point, though.
 
Sure... one 'side' wandered through the Capitol and did no material property damage and caused no actual harm. But you're not wrong.

The other 'side' held dozens of 'mostly peaceful' marches involving tens of thousands of people for Not My President. And that same other 'side' tried to occupy parts of Seattle, and proceeded to set several buildings on fire (sometimes with people inside of them), loot, and vandalize private small businesses.

You're very selective in what sort of destructive and uncivil behavior you call out as being an existential threat and what sort you seem willing to accept as no big deal. Or at least brush aside and pretend like it doesn't count.

From where I'm standing, it's different targets and different slogans... but it's pretty much the same type of behavior, and the same risk to the populace.

How much pot do I have to smoke to enter the bizarro alternate universe you live in?
 
They literally smeared **** on the walls.
Source? I can only find one source, and that's NYP. I mean, I suppose if you want to start accepting NYP as a reliable source, we can do that... but I'll hold you to it in the future.

People ******* died.

Ya, Centrism. Don't change. At all. I guess not all #BLUELIVESMATTER
Those who died...
Two Trump supporters who had heart attacks
One Trump supporter who overdosed
One Trump supporter who was shot by a cop

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

I mean, I suppose it's nice that you're so broken hearted about Trump supporters dying in their own idiotic riot. I would never have expected either of you to have any sympathy for the rioters harmed by their own stupid actions.
 
Source? I can only find one source, and that's NYP. I mean, I suppose if you want to start accepting NYP as a reliable source, we can do that... but I'll hold you to it in the future.




Those who died...
Two Trump supporters who had heart attacks
One Trump supporter who overdosed
One Trump supporter who was shot by a cop

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

I mean, I suppose it's nice that you're so broken hearted about Trump supporters dying in their own idiotic riot. I would never have expected either of you to have any sympathy for the rioters harmed by their own stupid actions.

.... wow. That's what you got (well what your online persona is pretending to get) out of criticism and you're just gonna ignore the rest?
 
.... wow. That's what you got (well what your online persona is pretending to get) out of criticism and you're just gonna ignore the rest?

Nothing I do or say will matter. There are several narratives out in the world. Some are designed and perpetrated by the right wing, some are designed and perpetrated by the left wing. People believe what they want to believe. No amount of argument will change their minds.

Both sides of this political ******** are liars and thieves, lining their own pockets, focused on their own glory and approbation.

And both sides are extravagant about rubbing their own hyperbolic emotification all over events, draping their interpretation on top of facts. Both are very quick to identify the hidden message dog-whistle unspoken call to violence coming from "those people over there" while insisting that their own side's words are nuanced and noble and that anyone who sees risks in it are looneys that the other side has snowed with their pervasive evil lies.

People hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe. That includes every single poster here, and I don't exclude myself.

What I believe is that every single one of our elected officials, every single die-hard dedicated supporter of one part or the other, has their own agenda, and not a single bit of that is actually in the interests of the people of the US. The parties - both of them - are corrupt to the bone. And supporters of those parties lap up that corruption as if it's mana from political heaven.

Trump is ****** up enough in reality that nobody should have to make up exaggerations. Harris is ****** up enough that nobody needs to hyperbolize.
 
Nothing I do or say will matter. There are several narratives out in the world. Some are designed and perpetrated by the right wing, some are designed and perpetrated by the left wing. People believe what they want to believe. No amount of argument will change their minds.
Some are factual, and some are false. Some are right and some are wrong. Some are true accounts of events that occurred, and some are rightist gaslighting lies propagated in order to minimise the enormity of what happened.
 
Nothing I do or say will matter. There are several narratives out in the world. Some are designed and perpetrated by the right wing, some are designed and perpetrated by the left wing. People believe what they want to believe. No amount of argument will change their minds.

Both sides of this political ******** are liars and thieves, lining their own pockets, focused on their own glory and approbation.

And both sides are extravagant about rubbing their own hyperbolic emotification all over events, draping their interpretation on top of facts. Both are very quick to identify the hidden message dog-whistle unspoken call to violence coming from "those people over there" while insisting that their own side's words are nuanced and noble and that anyone who sees risks in it are looneys that the other side has snowed with their pervasive evil lies.

People hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe. That includes every single poster here, and I don't exclude myself.

What I believe is that every single one of our elected officials, every single die-hard dedicated supporter of one part or the other, has their own agenda, and not a single bit of that is actually in the interests of the people of the US. The parties - both of them - are corrupt to the bone. And supporters of those parties lap up that corruption as if it's mana from political heaven.

Trump is ****** up enough in reality that nobody should have to make up exaggerations. Harris is ****** up enough that nobody needs to hyperbolize.

This would be a lot more believable if you hadn’t just told a whopper of lie about what happened on January 6th.
 
Even if the "no harm no foul" thing about the coup attempt weren't a right-wing lie that only a right-wing maniac could tout, it would still only amount to "Yes, they tried to do much worse, but they failed, so that's the same as if they hadn't tried".

When what you're comparing is how good or bad "both sides" are, trying and failing still just means you tried, because that's what reveals the kind of person you are. And when the thing you tried & failed at was a mass-murdering coup detat, that still means you're the kind of person who would want to commit a mass-murdering coup detat. Getting stopped doesn't make you a completely different person who would never do the thing you were trying to do.
 
Source? I can only find one source, and that's NYP. I mean, I suppose if you want to start accepting NYP as a reliable source, we can do that... but I'll hold you to it in the future.

Those who died...
Two Trump supporters who had heart attacks
One Trump supporter who overdosed
One Trump supporter who was shot by a cop

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

I mean, I suppose it's nice that you're so broken hearted about Trump supporters dying in their own idiotic riot. I would never have expected either of you to have any sympathy for the rioters harmed by their own stupid actions.

You're forgetting a police officer.
 

Back
Top Bottom