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Judge's son gunned down, hitman found dead in car

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superfreddy said:
Wasn't this guy terminally ill? With nothing to lose, going on a vendetta against his perceived enemies seems highly plausible.
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Yes.

He is also strongly suspected in the murder of another Mens Right activist, someone who was essentially a rival for fame in the movement.

This guy was trying to make his mark on history through challenging the male-only military draft. His case was stalled in the courts, which he likely blamed on this judge that he later targeted for murder.

Meanwhile, another MRA lawyer was having much more success on a similar draft case on the other side of the country, and it seemed likely that this case would be the one to attain glory. This man was recently murdered by a fake delivery man as well.

There's no reason to go seeing the pedophile cabal or Deustche Bank lurking the shadows here. The disgruntled MRA misogynist with an axe to grind and no reason to live is simple enough to understand.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Yes.

He is also strongly suspected in the murder of another Mens Right activist, someone who was essentially a rival for fame in the movement.

This guy was trying to make his mark on history through challenging the male-only military draft. His case was stalled in the courts, which he likely blamed on this judge that he later targeted for murder.

Meanwhile, another MRA lawyer was having much more success on a similar draft case on the other side of the country, and it seemed likely that this case would be the one to attain glory. This man was recently murdered by a fake delivery man as well.

There's no reason to go seeing the pedophile cabal or Deustche Bank lurking the shadows here. The disgruntled MRA misogynist with an axe to grind and no reason to live is simple enough to understand.
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A guy with terminal cancer who spent years in Russia setting up their security systems and then devoted his life to issuing frivolous law suits, acquires a Fedex uniform and packaging, gets a gun and knocks on the door of the judge who allowed him his appeal, randomly killing a 20-year-old man and injuring an older guy. Really?

Pull the other leg.
 
Vixen said:
A guy with terminal cancer who spent years in Russia setting up their security systems and then devoted his life to issuing frivolous law suits, acquires a Fedex uniform and packaging, gets a gun and knocks on the door of the judge who allowed him his appeal, randomly killing a 20-year-old man and injuring an older guy.
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Can you tell us where you're getting the bolded part from? He worked in Russia "setting up their security systems"? Who's the their in that sentence? "Security" and "intelligence" can mean a lot of things in a lot of contexts, it doesn't necessarily (or mostly, or commonly) mean he's involved in black operations training up Russian secret service agents and stealing secrets from the Russian government, or whatever you have fantasized he was up to while working for a law firm in Russia.

According to his CV, which you're using as your source for this, it says nothing about setting up security systems "for Russia", or working in semi-espionage, or working in espionage, or working as a double agent, or anything of the sort you've linked him with. This appears to be a fantasy you've concocted from seeing the words "Russia" "intelligence" and "security" on his CV, you say you're just reporting on what's reported in the media, but what you're doing is playing the typical CT game of "connecting the dots" and invented a double agent espionage intelligence officer character working for shadowy organisations in espionage and being a double agent, who has not assassinated a judge and was hired on the basis of his intelligence work as a double agent involved in espionage in Russia (none of which actually happened (apart from killing the judge)).

You don't even seem to be sure of the character you're inventing, you've simultaneously built him up to be a double agent involved in espionage in Russia whilst, therefore the kind of person you'd get to assassinate a judge, and then when it was pointed out that he was in fact a rather sad a pathetic MRA lawyer involved in frivilous lawsuits about women's nights at night clubs and with a grudge against this judge, you've set him up as the kind of pathetic loser who you'd get to be a patsy for this kind of crime while the real hitman carried out the actual hit and murdered this guy to make him take the fall.

Typical rambling incoherent, inconsistent CT fare, a fantasy concocted from nothing. Reading between and lines and connecting the dots that results in a very silly story disconnected from the actual facts on the ground.
 
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Vixen said:
A guy with terminal cancer who spent years in Russia setting up their security systems and then devoted his life to issuing frivolous law suits, acquires a Fedex uniform and packaging, gets a gun and knocks on the door of the judge who allowed him his appeal, randomly killing a 20-year-old man and injuring an older guy. Really?

Pull the other leg.
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By the killer's own writings, he was frustrated by the numerous delays to his case. The judge had cancelled a hearing scheduled for June 25th. The rival MRA attorney was going to beat him to the punch with his competing lawsuit challenging the male-only draft.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/26/nyregion/roy-den-hollander-judge.html
 
Vixen said:
A guy with terminal cancer who spent years in Russia setting up their security systems and then devoted his life to issuing frivolous law suits, acquires a Fedex uniform and packaging, gets a gun and knocks on the door of the judge who allowed him his appeal, randomly killing a 20-year-old man and injuring an older guy. Really?

Pull the other leg.
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You have evidence to the contrary?
 
Vixen said:
A guy with terminal cancer who spent years in Russia setting up their security systems and then devoted his life to issuing frivolous law suits, acquires a Fedex uniform and packaging, gets a gun and knocks on the door of the judge who allowed him his appeal, randomly killing a 20-year-old man and injuring an older guy. Really?

Pull the other leg.
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The Russian "security system" was in place before the shooter was born.

ETA - didn't that bio you posted state he was in Russia for one year?

ETA 2:

RESUME
Anti-Feminist litigation, investigations, and advice on general corporate matters.
M.B.A. Columbia University Business School with Honors, J.D. George Washington University Law School with High Honors.

WORK EXPERIENCE
Attorney and Business Consultant, New York, N.Y., 2000-Present
Litigate civil cases, including men's rights, immigration fraud, insurance subrogation, and RICO.
Advise businesses on corporate governance, contracts and litigation.

Kroll Associates Russia, Moscow, Russia, 1999-2000
Managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union.
Attorney, New York, N.Y., Russia, Ecuador, 1990-1999
Counseled companies, individuals, and nonprofit organizations in America, Russia, and Ecuador on legal and
business issues, including international financing and marketing.<snip>

In the time honored tradition of CTist math, one year in Russia became "years."
 
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BStrong said:
The Russian "security system" was in place before the shooter was born.

ETA - didn't that bio you posted state he was in Russia for one year?

ETA 2:

RESUME
Anti-Feminist litigation, investigations, and advice on general corporate matters.
M.B.A. Columbia University Business School with Honors, J.D. George Washington University Law School with High Honors.

WORK EXPERIENCE
Attorney and Business Consultant, New York, N.Y., 2000-Present
Litigate civil cases, including men's rights, immigration fraud, insurance subrogation, and RICO.
Advise businesses on corporate governance, contracts and litigation.

Kroll Associates Russia, Moscow, Russia, 1999-2000
Managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union.
Attorney, New York, N.Y., Russia, Ecuador, 1990-1999
Counseled companies, individuals, and nonprofit organizations in America, Russia, and Ecuador on legal and
business issues, including international financing and marketing.<snip>

In the time honored tradition of CTist math, one year in Russia became "years."
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Did you miss:

  1. The other ten years: "Attorney, New York, N.Y., Russia, Ecuador, 1990-1999
    Counseled companies, individuals, and nonprofit organizations in America, Russia, and Ecuador on legal and
    business issues, including international financing and marketing.<snip>"
  2. The reference to KROLL?

As for his 'terminal' cancer he still seemed pretty agile, did he not? If it was prostate cancer, he could have been going for another fifteen years.
 
This is a tweet from someone called 'Sherlock':

Why do I keep seeing the same names over and over. Circles are tight. Clinton, Bush, Epstein, CIA, Deutche Bank, Kroll, Ghislaine.....Time for accountability. #cleanupcrew #suicided #maxwell #salas #ItsOkayToNotBeOkay #VoteBlueToSaveAmerica
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Not saying I agree with him, just saying.
 
Vixen said:
Did you miss:

  1. The other ten years: "Attorney, New York, N.Y., Russia, Ecuador, 1990-1999
    Counseled companies, individuals, and nonprofit organizations in America, Russia, and Ecuador on legal and
    business issues, including international financing and marketing.<snip>"
  2. The reference to KROLL?

As for his 'terminal' cancer he still seemed pretty agile, did he not? If it was prostate cancer, he could have been going for another fifteen years.
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Nice dodge but no escape and your running goalposts are clearly gassed.

MRA nutjob did what nutjobs do. No grand supervillain fantasy construct required.
 
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