Judd v. Obama (Orly Taitz)

Nothing, as it's not a requirement to hold the office of the President of the US of A. The birthers however, have worked themselves into a frenzy because a FOIA request of Obama's Selective Service card from 2008 having a stamp that was out of order. IIRC they consider it proof that he wasn't a US citizen until shortly before the elections, because stamp for the year is missing '19' and only showing 80. And if you turn 80 upside down, it becomes 08, thus proving that Obama had someone on the inside create a false Selective Service record for him in 2008 :rolleyes:

Oh, of course. And I thought it was going to be something silly. :rolleyes:
 
TO be fair to the State Board, if they have jurisdiction over all challenges to the ballot, they might have had some on local and state issues that were serious in nature, and might have thought "Let's deal with the serious stuff first, and then we can deal with the wackjob stuff".
They did and quite frankly, some of the local objections were far more detailed in nature, yet they were rejected straight away. One objector had taken several photos of a vacant lot and obtained affidavits from the neighbours, to prove a candidate wasn't residing at the address he/she claimed. This was rejected on grounds that the burden of proof was on the accuser. No postponement to check with the relevant authorities if the proof offered was solid.
 
Just reading an account of yesterday's shennanigans in the Kansas City Star, and this made me chuckle:

Then Kobach finally put an end to it, saying Taitz can file a lawsuit challenging Montgomery’s withdrawal or Obama’s candidacy.

It's something that goes without saying, and I'm sure she will be doing both, and Kobach will be in there somewhere too.
 
As expected, Orly has filed a lawsuit in Kansas.

Using the same old overruled evidence, of course. Most of the evidentiary claims, as the OP notes, belong in the now-moderated thread. I'll discuss the legal issue here.

Her legal theory for why Full Faith and Credit should not apply is that the official state witness (i.e., Onaka) is a "person of interest" in an ongoing criminal investigation for forgery (false, and legally irrelevant) and that he did not honor subpoenas to "produce ... original documents" (legally incorrect and factually false) and relevant "demands from law enforcement" (false).

"Ongoing criminal investigation" is simply Sheriff Joe's ongoing semi-legal circus. No charges filed, no charges likely to be filed, no resolution of jurisdictional issues. While Arpaio provides an affidavit "concluding forgery," he has not lifted a figure to resolve any of the accusations speedily -- he simply engages in a broad enough abuse of power to cause him to be enjoined from further spending public funds to continue the fiasco.

Being a "person of interest" in an investigation does not affect Onaka's authority under Hawaii law and under the U.S. Constitution to bind the other states. He is the official recognized under Full Faith and Credit as the designated inspector and authenticator for vital records in Hawaii, until such time as the Hawaiian government, by its own due process, shall revoke that authority.

Evidentiary accusations of forgery, of the documents in question, are legally irrelevant when the issuing authority has certified them. You rely on a trial of evidence when certification cannot be had. No Birther lawyer yet seems to appreciate the rulings to that effect that abruptly terminate their court cases. Further the argument seems to be circular: We do not accept the certification of Onaka because he's a person of interest in our accusations of forgery. That's like trying to tell a cop he doesn't have the authority to write you a ticket because you're going to accuse him of misconduct. Even without Full Faith and Credit, that's a legal non-starter.

There was no "demand from law enforcement." There was an untimely, improper, and unlawful demand from ordinary citizens acting on behalf of Sheriff Arpaio briefly under color of law, but not with LEO authority. Hawaii officials rightly refused the demand. It was untimely because the Hawaiian government had already issued its certification. It was improper because it was an in-person request made without the proper production of credentials and standing, and it was unlawful because it attempted to compel something that is forbidden by Hawaii law.

Ditto the subpoeanas. You cannot just subpoena any old thing you want. A subpoena to examine original paper records is not per se valid when there is a compelling interest to limit access to those records, and when a well-established method is provided by statute to serve the purpose for which examination of the records would otherwise serve. Just as it has in thousands upon thousands of other cases, a certified abstract and/or facsimile copy serves to attest to the record and for any legal requirement to produce documentary proof.

Further, one has to have standing to make the subpoena valid. We discussed this above. And finally, just because a judge grants a subpoena doesn't mean the subject of it is contemptuous of the court when he cites violation of relevant state law as the reason why he cannot comply as ordered. "Show me the original!" "Um, no, state law forbids me from doing that, and in fact further forbids me from giving you a copy unless you fall into one of these categories." If subpoenas worked the way Birthers think they do, I could just subpoena a million dollars in cash from my bank.
 
It's hard to decypher most all some of Orly's comments, but it seems that she thinks she postponed it.

Order issued today to delay October 3 hearing pending full briefing of the court. The judge gave me 21 days, I probably will not need as long, but considering cases involving 8 Secretaries of state, Supreme Court of the U.S. and state and federal courts, I waned to make sure I have the necessary time and that the case will not be dismissed as late. I got a huge box with papers from the state to review and respond

Bolding mine, grammar and spelling mistakes hers.
 
Just a quick update. Orly is trying to file a motion to consolidate three of her worthless cases into one big pile o' manure.

SHe wrote up a "motion" in the Judd case with 120 paragraphs on why the cases should be consolidated.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/109464391/CDCA-2012-10-08-JvO-Purported-Appendix-for-JPML-Motion-ECF-19

"Now wait a minute," you say. "That memo only goes up to paragraph 64. Where are the rest?"

She apparently "bifurcated" her motion into two separate parts. She filed the second half of her "motion" in a totally different case.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/109510150/TX-TvS-ECF-20-2012-10-09-Taitz-NOTICE-of-Petition-for-Multidist
 
Orly is getting all excited as she gets to go to court in Indiana to display her pile of woo.

The press release is on her website, with the usual nonsense.

The basis for the trial is evidence provided by the Plaintiffs, showing citizen of Indonesia and possibly still citizen of Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama committing elections fraud by placing his name on the ballot, while using a last name not legally his and using as a basis for his identity a forged birth certificate, forged Selective Service Certificate and a Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425, which was never assigned to Obama according to E-Verify and SSNVS

Trial order can be found here. The judge has been sensible enough to limit her to two hours in court.
 
Orly is getting all excited as she gets to go to court in Indiana to display her pile of woo.

The press release is on her website, with the usual nonsense.



Trial order can be found here. The judge has been sensible enough to limit her to two hours in court.


Given the 150+ cases on point that have already been decided on this issue, that's likely 1 hour and 55 minutes more than it should be given (gotta give at least 5 minutes for the formalities)
 
Seems like Shurf Joe is staying away from Orly. Is she perhaps even too crazy for him?

I said we need people like Arpaio to testify. They on their own accord found Arpaio’s phone number announced it on the air and people are calling Arpaio and demanding that he show up at my next hearing in Kansas on October 3rd. They are demanding answers from arpaio, why he did not show up in court when I subpoenaed him in 3 different states.

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2012/09/judge-reid-in-indiana-i-believe-there-is-merit-in-this-case-i-believe-in-your-argument-i-need-evidence-for-injunction-your-case-can-be-much-stronger-2446086.html
 

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