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Jews - Emotions - Consequences

Do you mean Mossad? Evidence of Mossad involvement would be interesting, but at the moment it seems to be purely speculation.

Calling the idea that the Mossad were involved in the Port Arthur Massacre 'speculation' is being kind.

Bryant waltzes in, has a meal, takes out his guns and starts shooting the cafe up. Leaves, still shooting, is seen by a number of witnesses. Steals a car, kills the occupants (takes one hostage, later kills him), heads to a house where a seige takes place - ends when he sets the house (and himself) on fire and runs out the front.

It doesn't get much more open and shut than that.
 
You just believe the media? Bryant is a left hander, changed hands for the day? The real target was a boat load of Yanks but the boat departure time to the Isle of the Dead was changed. So the back up plan took place, many locals stated "The shooter wasn't Bryant" and their statments were hidden, we have just got axcess to some. You need to snail mail me and I will send you what I can't e-mail Old Bob 236 Bunya Rd North Arm Queensland Australia 4561 It was our little 911. Bryant is a sheltered work shop dummy and he shot so well?
 
Calling the idea that the Mossad were involved in the Port Arthur Massacre 'speculation' is being kind.

Bryant waltzes in, has a meal, takes out his guns and starts shooting the cafe up. Leaves, still shooting, is seen by a number of witnesses. Steals a car, kills the occupants (takes one hostage, later kills him), heads to a house where a seige takes place - ends when he sets the house (and himself) on fire and runs out the front.

It doesn't get much more open and shut than that.

You would think so. I suppose it's the open and shut cases that the make the best fodder for conspiracy theorists.
 
I don't get where this anti-jewish nonsense is coming from. Now personally, I happen to think Jews are more deluded than your average religion. I can't understand how they possibly think there's a benevolent deity.

But all of this "Jews were behind X" nonsense is pathetic. Mossad hiding under the bed? Mossad has better things to do than to piss off their allies. I hear there's this hostile country that Israel is currently occupying, which is probably their biggest concern. Actually, most of their documented operations outside the middle east involve some former Nazi war criminal developing a terminal case of lead poisoning. Talk about people we're not shedding any tears over...

I live in NYC though, and know many people who are Jewish, and honestly, besides their share of religious crazies, they're perfectly normal. It is a little sad that only men wear that hat/black clothing (I dunno what that's called) ensemble, I'd love to see a chick in that, it'd actually be pretty hot, but I digress.

There is no great Jewish conspiracy, but it keeps popping up, and I have no idea why.
 
Re Bryant, thanks for(sh) the tip I'll put the(oot) link in(ers) brackets(news.) in bits. Then(add) you lot(r.com) may believe. that might get through? I have had close involment in the above link and it had to be put up overseas as the censer here kept taking it down. Cheers OLD Bob.
 
You just believe the media? Bryant is a left hander, changed hands for the day? The real target was a boat load of Yanks but the boat departure time to the Isle of the Dead was changed. So the back up plan took place, many locals stated "The shooter wasn't Bryant" and their statments were hidden, we have just got axcess to some. You need to snail mail me and I will send you what I can't e-mail Old Bob 236 Bunya Rd North Arm Queensland Australia 4561 It was our little 911. Bryant is a sheltered work shop dummy and he shot so well?

Soooo...who were these locals, who hid their statements, and if the statements were hidden, how do you know about them?

And correct me if I am wrong, but Bryant did plead guilty, didn't he?
 
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Graduate Poster, re. Bryant. One of the suriving nurses (Wendy Scurr) will be at our house in April. Graham Collier who was shot and said it wasn't Bryant. Put the web site (spread in brackets in earlier post)together and it will tell all. Did you see Bryant pleading guilty? No because he DID NOT HAVE A TRIAL. Howard said it would be to painfull for the people. He was convicted on a inquirery. All his wealth was confiscated by a thieving gov. The shooters name was (not sure of spelling) Ovelbeek Dutch National. When I try to send web site anywhere my computer is blocked,not just this forum, but it will go in bits. Cheers Bob.
 
I think this is the link:

www.shootersnews.com

By the way, you can now post links. Until you have made 15 posts you are not allowed to post links. This is to stop people from signing up just to advertise products.
 
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I'm a little late to the party, but what the hell?

I wonder, personally, if instead of trying to talk sense into them, or beating them up, or locking them away, we could ask them to perform a simple test. Step into a gas chamber and have it slowly filled with zyklon b. After all, if it's as harmless as a number of them claim, why would they object?

ETA: "Them" being neo-nazis.

In addition, what the hell is up with MaGZ?
 
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Bryant

No its not the link, put addr. com after shootersnews. I'll try sending whole shootersnews.addr.com
 
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Graduate Poster, re. Bryant. One of the suriving nurses (Wendy Scurr) will be at our house in April. Graham Collier who was shot and said it wasn't Bryant. Put the web site (spread in brackets in earlier post)together and it will tell all. Did you see Bryant pleading guilty? No because he DID NOT HAVE A TRIAL. Howard said it would be to painfull for the people. He was convicted on a inquirery. All his wealth was confiscated by a thieving gov. The shooters name was (not sure of spelling) Ovelbeek Dutch National. When I try to send web site anywhere my computer is blocked,not just this forum, but it will go in bits. Cheers Bob.

So he's not Jewish, it's really the Dutch behind all this :confused:.
 
Sorry,

This is the link:

http://shootersnews.addr.com/

I can comment on this page:

Seascape - Movements Of Occupants

The book 'Suddenly One Sunday' covers the events of that night and indicates that, at the time, the Police did think that there might have been two shooters but it turned out that Bryant was simply moving his positition quickly under the cover of darkness. Maybe he was trying to make it look like there were two shooters so the Police wouldn't sneak up on him or maybe he was just moving around to avoid being targetted.

The police officer is just being honest when he talks about 'occupants' because during the time that he is describing they did think that there might have been two shooters. It would be less honest if he said that he was being informed about Martin Bryant's movements as he did not know at the time who the shooter was.
 
GTC. SOG had no night vision? come on. You haven't read the web page. We have so much stuff that it is impossible to believe the gov. evidence. If you think something is wrong with 911 then this is just as big in scale of population. Meeting have been up and down the coast with thousands of people but not a peep out of the media. Just read the link and I don't care what country the the guilty come from so don't give me the picking on the Jews, if the cap fits wear it. If my own family line was suspected nothing would change on how we atempt to find the truth.
 
Speaking as a Jew with direct connections to the Holocaust (similar to many Jews, I would imagine) it never fails to offend. And I would have difficulty refraining from physical violence too, I concur with you.

I sometimes feel like yelling, "You want proof of the Holocaust? You want proof? IS A LETTER DESCRIBING MY UNCLE'S FINAL MOMENTS PROOF ENOUGH FOR YOU???"

But I'm not going to give them that satisfaction.

Ok your Jew, Good i have a question.

I recently heard for the first time that there is no physical evidence in the world of the Jews ever being enslaved except for in the Bible.

I was wondering if this is true....
 
OneShot. I take it you're a Protestant. Good. I have a question. I once heard that the Protestants spun off from the Catholics because Protestants are a bunch of money grubbing thick-skinned business men and the Catholic Church wouldn't let them make enough money. Is it true?

(In short, why would you assume any Jew ((or every Jew)) would know answers to questions that are likely more archaelogical or anthropological in their base? Do you know everything about the entire history of your own religion?)
 
I don't really care about jews, nazis, or ethnic groups for that matter. But a fact is a fact and that is all I care about. So holocuast deniers do bug me with their lies. I really hate when they say jews own america. Or America's proxy-terrorist is Israel. That can get a little annoying when you've heard it so many times coming from the stupidest people ever to breath oxygen.
 
OneShot. I take it you're a Protestant. Good. I have a question. I once heard that the Protestants spun off from the Catholics because Protestants are a bunch of money grubbing thick-skinned business men and the Catholic Church wouldn't let them make enough money. Is it true?

(In short, why would you assume any Jew ((or every Jew)) would know answers to questions that are likely more archaelogical or anthropological in their base? Do you know everything about the entire history of your own religion?)

Well for starters i am not religious so a protestant i am not.

As for my post i was actually laughing when i wrote it at how stupid and funny it was. I guess im the only one who found it humorous but it wasnt just a question for him, even though i addressed it to him.

Silly thing for me to do but im still laughing at how i worded it so i dont care.:)

Just thought id ask the question since it was something i didnt know, and really didnt find the need to create a topic over.
 
I recently heard for the first time that there is no physical evidence in the world of the Jews ever being enslaved except for in the Bible.

I was wondering if this is true....

If you're talking about bondage in Egypt, there is very little evidence.

There is some mention in Egyptian records of a group called the "Apiru", which might be an early version of "Hebrew". As for being enslaved; technically, all citizens of Egypt could be considered slaves of the Pharaoh, since they could be called up for civil/military service at any time.

Also, some historians believe that many Old Testament stories are variations on Egyptian creation myths, and that many of the Patriarchs are actually anthropomorphic Egyptian gods.

Finally, there are discrepancies between Egyptian records and those of civilizations who have bested them in battle, presumably because Egypt's historians wiped the record clean of humiliating defeats. If a large portion of their work force did manage to slip their grasp, that might qualify.

I know it's weak, but there it is.
 

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