Jesus created Sex

Taffer, if your question is ..."Again to clarify, your contention is that God created the entire universe, and existed before the universe, correct?"

That's an affirmative, a YES. The Lord created and was before the Creation and not a creation of the created.

However, I do not believe that "outside the universe" is a meaningful setence. Therefore, where did God exist before he created the universe?

And hence can reCREATE as HE will be doing the whole Earth and Universe.......

For He loses no power when he creats, meaning even all things created don;t equal HIM and His POWER.

Lost the hyperlink to that one momentarily.

O...k... :confused:

And we can discuss how time is no more in the spirit world, whereas in the material world it is directional and includes entrophy as all things degenarte and do not get better and newer with time (A direct contradiction to the theory of evolution which states that miraculous entrophy does not apply to its magical miracles)

This is not true at all. Evolution does not violate the laws of entropy. Entropy always increases in a closed system. The earth is not a closed system.

WE gotta talk Taffer, your whole life revolves around evolution, whewee it is therefore such a sensitive topic to you, such a religious one where your whole existence hinges on its validity. You are risking so much by talking with a creationist, who can rip your theory apart....... if your mind is openned up.

Not true at all, David. Only my academic life revolves around evolution, not my whole life. If evolution is shown to be wrong, then I will no longer believe in it. I have no problems changing my views if evidence to the contrary is presented. So far, I have yet to see any. And I have talked to many creationists before you, David. I've heard it all before.

Its ricky business, bro.... but then again maybe if you show sincerity it may be worth a go.... we shall see.

I am more then willing to take that risk, David. As I've said a number of times, if you wish to discuss the science of evolution, I have created a thread for you there. I will address any concerns you have.

Order and design go together... laws were created they did not evolve... magic presto explosions do not create the miracle of harmonic life....

Unfortunately, none of those things have anything to do with evolution. Evolution happens once life already exists. If you want to believe that the first life forms were created by God, then that's fine by me. I cannot argue against it from an evolutionary point of view.

And David? I hate to be a nag, but you haven't addressed my post, only two quotes from it. If you like, I can repost it verbatim, but hopefully that isn't necessary.
 
And we can discuss how time is no more in the spirit world,


There is no spirit world.

whereas in the material world it is directional and includes entrophy as all things degenarte and do not get better and newer with time (A direct contradiction to the theory of evolution which states that miraculous entrophy does not apply to its magical miracles).


You have absolutely no idea what entropy is, do you? (Hint, for one thing, there is no "h" in entropy.)

Define entropy.

Define barycenter.
 
And we can discuss how time is no more in the spirit world, whereas in the material world it is directional and includes entrophy as all things degenarte and do not get better and newer with time (A direct contradiction to the theory of evolution which states that miraculous entrophy does not apply to its magical miracles).

That is not what entropy states. This statement is as embarrassingly wrong as your take on uniformitarianism.
 
Wow, I think im starting to understand DJJ's evidence against evolution.

Just have a nice little dose of this Lysergic acid diethylamide.

It all makes sense now.
 
DJJ does understand time and the vastness of it. Time DJJ, time is the maker and destroyer of all things.

Paul

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Paul, Paul, Paul, and let me add another Paul, the direction of time is called entrophy and that is a direct law aginst evoltuion, as all things degenerate in time and go to a lesser state of energy..... and yet with the evolution religion they change this law to state that all things improve and get more complex thru luck and chance.

Study, study, study, and then study some more..

Darn evolutionists it is so hard to get them to study and learn math, time or any true concept.
 
When you get past the speed of light, there is no more time..... but athiests and evolutionists worship the HERE and NOW as it is the only hope they have and yet they worship the magnitude of time as if its shear l;ength made the impossible possible. And if that length of time won't throw their dice correctly, they suggest doubling and tripling the amount of throws needed, maybe trilllions or zillions of years. They play with time as if it was a toy, and it is in their hands, for they have no concept of time.
 
Paul, Paul, Paul, and let me add another Paul, the direction of time is called entrophy and that is a direct law aginst evoltuion, as all things degenerate in time and go to a lesser state of energy..... and yet with the evolution religion they change this law to state that all things improve and get more complex thru luck and chance.

Study, study, study, and then study some more..

Darn evolutionists it is so hard to get them to study and learn math, time or any true concept.

Ah, David, David, David, it must be fun to live in a world where all you have to do to understand everything is just to make it all up.
 
Paul, Paul, Paul, and let me add another Paul, the direction of time is called entrophy and that is a direct law aginst evoltuion, as all things degenerate in time and go to a lesser state of energy..... and yet with the evolution religion they change this law to state that all things improve and get more complex thru luck and chance.

Study, study, study, and then study some more..

Darn evolutionists it is so hard to get them to study and learn math, time or any true concept.

You need to do more study, David, the Earth is NOT a closed system so evolution is NOT ruled out by entropy. Your acknowledgment of science only extends far enough to confirm your creationist ideas. That is called CHERRY-PICKING and it is NOT allowed.

So get back and crack the books and stop skipping the parts that contradict your beliefs.
 
You can stop right there my friend who knows so little, you can't go faster then light..............

Tachyons are not forbidden by relativity. Although it isn't clear if they have physical meaning or are just an artifact of the math. What is forbidden is an object with non-zero rest-mass moving at the speed of light.
 
Paul, Paul, Paul, and let me add another Paul, the direction of time is called entrophy

wow, that's actually kind-of sort-of correct! Since the laws of physics are time-symmetric at the microscopic level, it is bulk statistical measures that let us visualise the passing of time.

and that is a direct law aginst evoltuion, as all things degenerate in time and go to a lesser state of energy..... and yet with the evolution religion they change this law to state that all things improve and get more complex thru luck and chance.

No, that is just plain wrong. Evolution no more voilates the second law of thermodynamics than do pretty ice crystals forming from amorphous water.

Study, study, study, and then study some more..

yes, you really should.

Darn evolutionists it is so hard to get them to study and learn math, time or any true concept.

I'm sorry David, but it really looks like the boot is on the other foot to me.
 
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Tachyons are not forbidden by relativity. Although it isn't clear if they have physical meaning or are just an artifact of the math. What is forbidden is an object with non-zero rest-mass moving at the speed of light.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/warpfaq.html

What are tachyons?

Tachyons are hypothetical faster-than-light particles. Physicists asked themselves, "What would be the characteristics of matter if it did move faster than light?" -- a kind of thought experiment. One odd thing is that to slow down a tachyon, you would have to put energy into it. In fact, it would take infinite energy to get it to slow down to the speed of light - that is if it has any mass. That brings me to the next interesting point - one way to view the momentum of tachyons is to consider that they have imaginary mass. So far any attempt to observe a tachyon has come up dry, and most physicists have abandoned the idea that tachyons might be real. The only tempting recent clue was a recent measure of the rest mass of a neutrino. They got an imaginary number. This result was NOT attributed to tachyon properties, in fact, the experimental report attributed the results to possible errors in some of the supporting information used to make the calculations. To learn a little more about tachyons, visits the

Please I'm not DJJ in thinking and or thought.

Paul

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Paul, Paul, Paul, and let me add another Paul, the direction of time is called entrophy and that is a direct law aginst evoltuion, as all things degenerate in time and go to a lesser state of energy..... and yet with the evolution religion they change this law to state that all things improve and get more complex thru luck and chance.

Study, study, study, and then study some more..

Darn evolutionists it is so hard to get them to study and learn math, time or any true concept.

DJJ you have so little knowledge, the sun, you know that star you see during the day when not blocked by clouds, that sun is a power source, so there is no running down of entropy on earth. Study my little friend with so little knowledge, study science books and not poorly written web sights with religious agendas that are not looking for the truth. Yes with real knowledge your brain may hurt at first but that will go away with time as you exercise your brain.

Paul

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