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It's not going to work, BP

Tricky said:
What do you do with the ship in the many years between spills?
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Fill the boat with Norwegian and Japanese tourists. Modify the booms to have rotating knives and use them for culling whales. Run the engines off whale oil.

There would be a special area on board wherein seals and such were clubbed. The tourists could help with the task, if they wanted.

NB I suggest removing any BP logos before retooling the booms to avoid any potential PR difficulties; you wouldn't want the company to get a bad name.
 
Tricky said:
What do you do with the ship in the many years between spills?
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You find board members of corporations and dip them in the water in front of the ship. Evidently, they are all slimy, oily creatures unworthy of the term "human".
 
Checkmite said:
Quit with the obfuscation. Nothing in this thread has been about the PR "campaign"; all your ire has been directed specifically at this one commercial, which you seemed to claim was patronizing based on nothing more substantial than that the guy talking in it is a native of the Gulf region. All this talk about BP's initial public releases about the amount of oil or whatnot have nothing to do with this commercial being evidence of BP's villainism.
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What on Earth are you talking about? Go read my first post in this thread. It is about the overall PR campaign, how useless it is in the face of BP's recent lies, and why I find it obnoxious in context.

You clearly have an emotional stake in this, for some reason, and are badly distorting my posts to fit this hysterical reaction of yours.

As for distorting, I welcome anyone to go read through this post again and see which of us is engaging in obfuscating behavior. But please, quote me at any point even mentioning the fellow in the commercial's accent. I never brought it up, not once.

You're just blindly hurling insults, often using words you don't really understand. You accused me of self-righteous hypocrisy (sanctimony), and when challenged, never bothered to explain what was hypocritical. I think you've seen other people use such words and found them impressive, but they have actual definitions and I assume you just want to insult me. I'd stick to four letters, were I you, less likely to make such childish mistakes.
 
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As far as I'm concerned calculating the flow rate from a video feed, HD or not, is just voo-doo science.
 
Travis said:
As far as I'm concerned calculating the flow rate from a video feed, HD or not, is just voo-doo science.
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And yet the scientists who predicted the flow rate based on the video were proven very much correct by measurements taken when the oil was finally captured.
 
Checkmite said:
Quit with the obfuscation. Nothing in this thread has been about the PR "campaign"; all your ire has been directed specifically at this one commercial, which you seemed to claim was patronizing based on nothing more substantial than that the guy talking in it is a native of the Gulf region. All this talk about BP's initial public releases about the amount of oil or whatnot have nothing to do with this commercial being evidence of BP's villainism.
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Actually, that was me, and I stand by what I said. To me that commercial smacks of W in a flight suit on a carrier deck proclaiming "mission accomplished."

And my original post was something in the sense of a "last straw" thing - BP screwed around with the safety of people and the environment, repeatedly, and now that the thing has finally, inevitably blown up in their faces, they think that sending some guy out on a boat to cruise around and talk in a Southern accent should make us forgive and trust them and quit screaming for Tony Hayward's head on a platter.
 
TraneWreck said:
And yet the scientists who predicted the flow rate based on the video were proven very much correct by measurements taken when the oil was finally captured.
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I failed to mention that I think voo-doo is rock solid and irrefutable. :p
 
Cavemonster said:
Ah, so those big wigs have been sacked?
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The punishment of the innocent... those lower-tiered executives and worker bees has to done first, followed by the rewarding of the guilty.. the management types that did the foul deeds that resulted in the blow-out, despite warnings from below (the punished) about problems coming.
 
richardm said:
Fill the boat with Norwegian and Japanese tourists. Modify the booms to have rotating knives and use them for culling whales. Run the engines off whale oil.

There would be a special area on board wherein seals and such were clubbed. The tourists could help with the task, if they wanted.

NB I suggest removing any BP logos before retooling the booms to avoid any potential PR difficulties; you wouldn't want the company to get a bad name.
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And include a trip along the Somali coast, with the passengers suitably armed to ward off boarders. :)
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http://www.allsafedefense.com/Special_Pages/SomaliTourShip.htm
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quarky said:
If it was really cynical, wouldn't the spokesperson be a mega-babe in a bikini, holding a power tool and explaining the next move?
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MG1962 said:
she would be firing a 50 cal machine gun
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God damn it!

I was going to do this pitch to BP in the morning, and you guys give it away for free.

I guess I'll have to go with the precocious, CGI tar-baby.
 
Tricky said:
And yes, he truly is from Louisiana (as many of BPs staff are) and that really is his accent.
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Buuuuuuuull****. By the sound of it I can not only tell he's a phony, but where he's really from. I backtraced it.

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Cavemonster said:
Frankly, this would be hard to know without actually being inside the confidential meetings being held there. This is a one of a kind disaster, so from the outside, it's impossible to know if possible solutions are being shot down or delayed because of reluctance to pay. The reason so much money is flowing out of BP is that the early attempts to stop the flow did not work. I don't attribute any nobility to it. They are dead as a company until they stop the oil from flowing out.
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No, its just a bigger spill from a type of accident that has happened previously. Compare other companies reactions to previous spills and BP's reaction.

What we do know, from memos, is that of the 11 people killed in the blast, some of them may likely have survived if BP had bought the stronger shelters specifically designed to protect against such a blast, which they specifically declined to buy, instead opting for the cheapest shelters.
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Shelters are part of the rig. BP hire the rig.

So we have a documentation of them putting profit above human lives in a gamble and losing those lives. I am less apt to give them the benefit of the doubt in their other actions.
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Check all the other companies drilling in the US before you cast stones. Their spill plans were just as inadequate and they would be using the same rigs.
 
Elizabeth I said:
Actually, that was me, and I stand by what I said. To me that commercial smacks of W in a flight suit on a carrier deck proclaiming "mission accomplished."

And my original post was something in the sense of a "last straw" thing - BP screwed around with the safety of people and the environment, repeatedly, and now that the thing has finally, inevitably blown up in their faces, they think that sending some guy out on a boat to cruise around and talk in a Southern accent should make us forgive and trust them and quit screaming for Tony Hayward's head on a platter.
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I think they probably want some morons to see that there is a US element to this disaster. As far as I remember there are 30,000 direct US BP employees.

At first they did not like the English "toff" talking down to them, now they do not like the "fake" yank talking to them.
 
Nogbad said:
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You guys love oil - we thought you'd be pleased to have so much of it.
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I'm British too. ;)

Tricky, I echo some of what has been said. I think that the overall management of the company BP are absolute amoral bastards who really don't care in the slightest. They rack up saftey violations like most people rack up breaths. It's a joke to think that they are in any way as bad as any company with less violations. Sure, they might well do a better job cleaning up the mess they made, but they still make a shocking amount of the total mess.
 
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