Ed Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu will be indicted on charges of bribery, fraud...

[plague311]

Pretty huge announcement out of Israel:

Charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust have been unveiled against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in three separate corruption cases, the Attorney General announced on Thursday evening, marking the first time in Israel's history that a sitting PM faces indictment in criminal investigations

This is going to cause some issues in US politics as well!

 

[Vixen]

The surprise is 'untouchable' Netanyahu is not above the law after all.

He might still get off, though.

 

[plague311]

The surprise is 'untouchable' Netanyahu is not above the law after all.

He might still get off, though.

Which would be extremely disappointing.

 

[dudalb]

I think the term is "Gonif".

 

[dudalb]

Bibi is playing "The Police done set me up" card.
Also there apparently is a growing revolt within Likud against Bibi.

 

[dudalb]

As someone who is basically sympathetic to Israel, and finds a lot of the Anti Zionism on thie forum to be pretty damn stupid, the sooner Bibi is gone the better. He has been a disaster for Israel. He has, frankly, been a huge asset for the Palestinian Extremists.

 

[ponderingturtle]

As someone who is basically sympathetic to Israel, and finds a lot of the Anti Zionism on thie forum to be pretty damn stupid, the sooner Bibi is gone the better. He has been a disaster for Israel. He has, frankly, been a huge asset for the Palestinian Extremists.

Those were the policies that got him in and kept him there though, it isn't like his little corruption kickbacks benefited the Palestinian Extremists.

 

[The Fool]

As someone who is basically sympathetic to Israel, and finds a lot of the Anti Zionism on thie forum to be pretty damn stupid, the sooner Bibi is gone the better. He has been a disaster for Israel. He has, frankly, been a huge asset for the Palestinian Extremists.

I have to confess I have always hated Netanyahu. Does that make you an anti Semite? What about if you think Likud has been a disaster for Israel? Make you anti Semitic? What if I say the electoral system of parties submitting lists leads to the election of unrepresentative swill? How long before I become an anti Semite?

As you can see I really want to bash some aspects of Israel’s political structure and foreign and domestic policy as much as I want to bash rocketfiring Hamas extremists without putting up with the slander....do you think it’s possible?

 

[alfaniner]

I always liked hearing the newsreaders say "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu". It has such a musical ring to it.

 

[Cain]

Poor Israel. They can now expect America's anti-corruption president to put a hold on all future aid.

 

[Trebuchet]

Poor Israel. They can now expect America's anti-corruption president to put a hold on all future aid.

Oh, I'm sure that weapons will still be sent. After all, gotta have that sweet Armageddon so Fundie Jesus can come back!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

As someone who is basically sympathetic to Israel, and finds a lot of the Anti Zionism on thie forum to be pretty damn stupid, the sooner Bibi is gone the better. He has been a disaster for Israel. He has, frankly, been a huge asset for the Palestinian Extremists.

At the risk of starting the usual debate I won't get into, I think they used each other

 

[kellyb]

Oh, I'm sure that weapons will still be sent. After all, gotta have that sweet Armageddon so Fundie Jesus can come back!

All I know is that if Pence is a legit theocrat, he almost definitely thinks Jesus wants the US to protect Israel, and somehow that will help Fundie Jesus come back and turn Earth into a Christian Theocracy. There's a rapture and an apocalypse in there somewhere, too, but there's no consensus on the timeline.

 

[Ziggurat]

All I know is that if Pence is a legit theocrat

He isn't.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I have to confess I have always hated Netanyahu. Does that make you an anti Semite? What about if you think Likud has been a disaster for Israel? Make you anti Semitic? What if I say the electoral system of parties submitting lists leads to the election of unrepresentative swill? How long before I become an anti Semite?

As you can see I really want to bash some aspects of Israel’s political structure and foreign and domestic policy as much as I want to bash rocketfiring Hamas extremists without putting up with the slander....do you think it’s possible?

The working definition of anti-semitism allows for "sharp and vigorous criticism of Israel's government and policies".
https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Religion/Submissions/JBI-Annex1.pdf

Of course, you knew this already, and were just being disingenuous. Do you think this will help the Palestinian Arab cause? Do you think this will help anything at all?

 

[The Fool]

The working definition of anti-semitism allows for "sharp and vigorous criticism of Israel's government and policies".
https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Religion/Submissions/JBI-Annex1.pdf

Of course, you knew this already, and were just being disingenuous. Do you think this will help the Palestinian Arab cause? Do you think this will help anything at all?

I don’t think that’s the working definition used over the years on this forum by Likud apologists. But maybe you were not around for the show.

 

[Belz...]

He isn't.

Evidence?

I realise that your claim is a negative, but you seem pretty sure, so I'd like to know why.

 

[Ziggurat]

Evidence?

I realise that your claim is a negative, but you seem pretty sure, so I'd like to know why.

It's strange that you want to know why I think Pence isn't a theocrat, rather than why kellyb thinks he is. Him being one is by far the more remarkable claim.

But it's really rather simple. First, he hasn't shown any real signs of being a theocrat. Religious, sure. But that's far from sufficient to qualify as theocratic. Second, theocracy isn't really a thing in American politics. All those idiots dressing up in Handmaid's Tale dresses to protest Republicans? They seem to be blissfully unaware that the story wasn't a warning about what Republicans might do in the US, it was a warning about what was actually happening in Iran. Labeling a Republican as a theocrat is a cliche which only fools the gullible and paranoid.

 

[Belz...]

It's strange that you want to know why I think Pence isn't a theocrat, rather than why kellyb thinks he is.

I'd certainly want to know if she thought that, but perhaps you didn't read her post very well.

But it's really rather simple. First, he hasn't shown any real signs of being a theocrat. Religious, sure. But that's far from sufficient to qualify as theocratic.

So, simple lack of evidence, then? I've been told that you can't draw a conclusion based on that. Argument from ignorance, I think it's called.

 

[Camillus]

It's strange that you want to know why I think Pence isn't a theocrat, rather than why kellyb thinks he is. Him being one is by far the more remarkable claim.

But it's really rather simple. First, he hasn't shown any real signs of being a theocrat. Religious, sure. But that's far from sufficient to qualify as theocratic. Second, theocracy isn't really a thing in American politics. All those idiots dressing up in Handmaid's Tale dresses to protest Republicans? They seem to be blissfully unaware that the story wasn't a warning about what Republicans might do in the US, it was a warning about what was actually happening in Iran. Labeling a Republican as a theocrat is a cliche which only fools the gullible and paranoid.

Do you have a source for your claim that the Handmaid's Tale was about events in Iran? Nothing I've read from Margaret Atwood about the gestation of the book mentions it.