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Is Marijuana Harmless?

She didn't like me very much..........

Cry me a river. I maintain (and could probably back this up if I did some research) that the reason marijuana became such a boogeyman - an image no doubt caused by such government-inspired gems as Reefer Madness and Assassin "cruelty and extreme license" of Youth - was that after Prohibition, the Prohibition Agents and all the legal bureaucrat weasels had to have something to do. And we all know those kind of people are masters at keeping themselves in business.
 
I love my Weed.
I used to smoke the Hydro, but now only smoke the Bush Buds, natural weed.
Is it harmful? I don't know, I can't remember.
All I know is that I have a pinched nerve in my back, and the weed relaxes my muscles enough for me not to worry about the pain, I'm so stoned I forget that the pain is even there.(There justified it, now light this up, Puff Puff):relieved:
I say I smoke about 4 grams a Day.:hypnotize

I believe that I am addicted....
To the Nicotine that I mix in with the weed, to the social aspects of a 'session' and to the Act of smoking the bong. But I believe that weed is not addictive physically, only mentally.

It has been smoked for thousands of years, and the only reason that it is not legal is because no one can monopolise the weed.
....Oh yeah, and because of the Mexicans in L A. and Jazz singers in N.O.
(Racism outlawed the weed).

I'd rather smoke the weed than touch that ICE,:wide-eyed Crystal Meth:eye-poppi or any other illicit drug:drool: . I don't even smoke ciggies' or drink alcohol.:yikes:

Mary Jane is my only vice, (along with internet porn, but hey who's judging?)
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It's all to do with moderation, I guess. Plus, different things affect people in different ways. I gave pot many opportunities, but it didn't work for me. That said, it was a lot less harmful than hard liquor. I've never done any drug harder than pot, so it's just coffee, cigarettes and beer from here on out.

I can understand people not drinking or smoking, but I've never understood people who don't drink coffee. How do you people start the day? It takes me about three coffees just to get my equilibirium (sp?) going in the morning.
 
Is water harmless? As with all things, it depends what you do with it. Smoking one joint is not going to kill you or make you rush out to start injecting heroin, but smoking 50 a day is unlikely to be especially good for you.

I can understand people not drinking or smoking, but I've never understood people who don't drink coffee. How do you people start the day? It takes me about three coffees just to get my equilibirium (sp?) going in the morning.

The interesting thing about caffeine is that there is research showing that it does very little to wake you up at all. The ony reason you feel better in the morning after a drink is because is you are suffering from severe withdrawal symptoms. Caffeine is actually one of the most addictive drugs we know of.
 
Is water harmless? As with all things, it depends what you do with it. Smoking one joint is not going to kill you or make you rush out to start injecting heroin, but smoking 50 a day is unlikely to be especially good for you.

I'll have to say the one thing about comparing water to marijuana is this:

Marijuana is not necessary to survival. Water is.

Water (that's unpolluted or not mixed in with other bad stuff) also doesn't alter your mental state like marijuana.

Otherwise, I think that marijuana should be made legal, and possibly taxed. There's no (good) reason for it to be illegal.
 
Water (that's unpolluted or not mixed in with other bad stuff) also doesn't alter your mental state like marijuana.

Come on... you must've seen Spinal Tap!

"A splash of water on your face will wake you up in the morning. Water is the most powerful drug there is!"
 
I'll have to say the one thing about comparing water to marijuana is this:

Marijuana is not necessary to survival. Water is.

But that isn't really relevant to my point. What I meant was that the question "Is [anything] harmless?" is a pointless question because it is far too vague. Water may be necessary to survival, but it is certainly not harmless and many people die because of it, even when it is unpolluted. There is valid debate about marijuana, but just asking "Is it harmless?" is not the way to do it.
 
Anybody ever heard about "water intoxication", somebody died down here last month on a radio contest. She drank to much water and died of water intoxicaion!
DAMN! I'll stick to my Bong pipe thanx!!!
 
I'll have to say the one thing about comparing water to marijuana is this:

Marijuana is not necessary to survival. Water is.

Water (that's unpolluted or not mixed in with other bad stuff) also doesn't alter your mental state like marijuana.

Otherwise, I think that marijuana should be made legal, and possibly taxed. There's no (good) reason for it to be illegal.
Marijuana is not necessary to survival. Water is.

You haven't lived in this household mate! LOL.
 
On one of my early LSD trips, I walked around the streets with a piece of chalk, chalking "THE TIME IS NOW" everywhere. On another trip, I wrote "THIS IS A PLASTIC PLANE OF REALITY" everywhere.
It all seemed pefectly logical at the time.

Those seem PERFECTLY LOGICAL at this time. The time is now, how can it be other way? Only the present exists. As for the plastic plane, well yes of course, but we cant realize it when in "normal" consciousness.

In other words, every state of consciousness (I do not like the limitations that the concept imposes) allow us to see a different world. Is that because our perceptions are messed up, or because our point of view changes and then the world seems to be different from there?

Anyway... back on topic.
 
Come on... you must've seen Spinal Tap!

"A splash of water on your face will wake you up in the morning. Water is the most powerful drug there is!"

More like nerves are the most powerful drug there is. There's just ways to interact with those nerves with outside forces. Splashing water on face causes a nice shock value as cold water meets nerve endings.

Cuddles said:
But that isn't really relevant to my point. What I meant was that the question "Is [anything] harmless?" is a pointless question because it is far too vague. Water may be necessary to survival, but it is certainly not harmless and many people die because of it, even when it is unpolluted.

True.

There is valid debate about marijuana, but just asking "Is it harmless?" is not the way to do it.

You're right. Nothing is harmless 100% of the time. Sometimes it's all about relativity, dosages, how it's used, general effects on the population, etc.

Is marijuana, when it is smoked at the average dosage it is available in, at the average intervals it is smoked in, harmless? Even then, the question isn't necessarily valid. Is it harmless, physically, to the human body, even over time? It's probably less harmless than not smoking, but it's still relatively harmless to smoking cigarettes. But the question isn't valid because there are still other situational parameters.

If marijuana affects the mind, and you are operating heavy machinery or driving a vehicle, then would marijuana, at the average dosage, be harmless? It's probably a lot more harmful than it was in the previous example, simply because it would impact your behavior as you are operating a potentially dangerous machine.

So yeah, I see your point, I hope.

IzakDavidxXx said:
Anybody ever heard about "water intoxication", somebody died down here last month on a radio contest. She drank to much water and died of water intoxicaion!

DAMN! I'll stick to my Bong pipe thanx!!!

Yes. Too much of anything that is ingested can potentially harm the human body. Iron, plasma, fluid, etc. The human body is a delicate mechanism, based on many complicated individual parameters to upkeep one physical condition (staying alive), or an even harder to maintain physical condition (staying healthy).

Too much water can screw up the body, as it can't process it all; but it takes a lot of water to get to that point.

But have you ever heard of that myth that, "8 glasses of water is what you should drink"? Water usage should depend upon physical activity. If you run or physically exert yourself, you have to replace lost water. If you sit at your computer and vegetate (as I do most of the time), you do not have to.

Marijuana is not necessary to survival. Water is.

You haven't lived in this household mate! LOL.

I think I get the picture. ;)

Bodhi said:
Those seem PERFECTLY LOGICAL at this time. The time is now, how can it be other way? Only the present exists. As for the plastic plane, well yes of course, but we cant realize it when in "normal" consciousness.

In other words, every state of consciousness (I do not like the limitations that the concept imposes) allow us to see a different world. Is that because our perceptions are messed up, or because our point of view changes and then the world seems to be different from there?

In my perspective (which may be askew, admittedly), mind-altering drugs are to reason and perception of reality as cataracts are to physical vision.
 
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In my perspective (which may be askew, admittedly), mind-altering drugs are to reason and perception of reality as cataracts are to physical vision.

I see your point. Still, I will try to explain a little bit more what I believe. Our normal, waking up state of consciousness (by "normal" I mean an average of the "social adapted and functional humans) depends on a series of electrochemical reactions on the brain. A certain homeostatic state is to be achieved in order to remain functional.

You dont need drugs to alter this homeostasis; sleep deprivation, extreme stressful situations, hyperventilation, hunger and other variables can influence it too.

Now. What we call "our perception of reality" implies a lot, its not a simple statement. Among other things its assumed that "reality" is more or less what we perceive but without us. This is far from being true, our perceptions shape what we see (just in case: NO IM NOT AN IDEALIST) in various degrees.

Even in the simplest sense, for instance, a visit to a store will be perceptually different if we are hunger. There are physiological explanations for this of course, but the point Im trying to make is that our perceptions will change in order to supply our organism what it needs. Think of it like a telescope to candy bars that will not work for camera bateries.

Well, time is up, unfortunately I will have to conclude the post as is it, I will come back later to write a bit more if needed.
 
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This: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Health+issues+and+the+effects+of+cannabis appears a fairly balanced and comprehensive look at the various effects of marijuana use, both short term and long term.

Speaking strictly from personal observational experience of individuals intoxicated on alcohol and marijuana as a Paramedic, give me the stoner anyday.


Boo

Being quite involved with ongoing paramedic certification myself, I would say this is the consesus. And never once, in all the major medical lectures I've covered given for ER docs and emergency response people, has MJ come up in a drug talk. Never.
 
Flashbacks? More like LSD.

I can see why someone might mistake the two, since both were used heavily in the hippy generation.
 
Well, here's a nifty little news article that just came out, claiming that not only does marijuana not cause lung cancer, it can actually help treat it:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070422/NATIONWORLD/704220382/1083/LIVING01
And Glaucoma, athsma as well as pain relief.

It could solve some unemployment problems, as the Hemp plant itself can be turned into an industry for clothing, paper, rope, textiles, oil's, paints and medicinal purposes.

But because i can't be monopolised the government won't allow it to be anything more than decriminalised, never legalised.
And as I stated earlier, Racism sparked the outlawing of Mary Jane.

Time for another Bong for me now.:relieved:
Cough! Cough!

That was nice:hypnotize
 
I've watched my boyfriend smoke pot daily for 7 years and he started when he was 13. He is not 35 years old. He's normally a person who should be taking some sort of anti-anxiety, anti-hyper medication, so the pot just makes him well...normal.
Sorry to disapoint you young lady, but stoned is not normal.
Trust me I should know.
I am proud of myself when I go a day without it.
I have been trying to quit for a while now, but I must be weak minded.
Plus I have smoked since I was 15 and don't do ciggie's or Booze,
So pot and internet porn are my only vice.
 

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