Iran War in Prophecy

andyandy said:
god works in mysterious ways :D


...now that the hostage crisis is over, can we conclude that the prophecy has failed....?
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Not until the fat lady sings or they finally turn up the house-lights. I won't write off a US-Iran War until the US is so deeply bogged in Central America that nobody in Eurasia actually gives a toss about them any more. The Eurasian powers will be tussling over Africa, the next Really Big Thing.
 
CapelDodger said:
Not until the fat lady sings or they finally turn up the house-lights. I won't write off a US-Iran War until the US is so deeply bogged in Central America that nobody in Eurasia actually gives a toss about them any more. The Eurasian powers will be tussling over Africa, the next Really Big Thing.
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:rolleyes:
 
CapelDodger said:
Not until the fat lady sings or they finally turn up the house-lights. I won't write off a US-Iran War....
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Neither will i, but the prophecy in question had to do with David's curious belief that the bible predicts that there will be a USA v Iran war which will culminate in a 10 nation treaty that results in the rise of a supposed biblical figure known as the anti-Christ. David actually tied the detention of the 15 UK sailors to this war and then became more and more specific that this was THE event that would kick off the war he foresees, saying the Brits were set up as sheep for the slaughter, and then began to compare the entire scenario with the biblical story of King David setting up Uriah to be killed in battle so he could screw his wife. That's one way that he went wrong - he just overstepped himself. He could have hedged his bets and stuck with the "maybes". He got into a subject way over his head, placing his own suppositions into the fact that he believed the detail was too far from the mother ship. He is just wishing and hoping so badly for this showdown to happen that any time he thinks a piece of the sky is falling, he becomes Chicken Little. This is why he was in error on his original forecasts. He is SO ready for this world to end his miseries and even though his Ghost Shirt is a bit tattered, he will don it the next time there is a flare-up in that region of the world. Just watch and see.

A possible war with the USA and Iran would not surprise many at all. That has been acknowledged. What is ridiculous is this cockamamy idea that ANY war is going to suddenly produce some ruler that everyone on the globe, except the hardcore xians, will bow down to and worship, in addition to all of the other far-fetched ideas he has about "the end of the world as we know it" that are depicted in this forum and on his website.

So as far as his idea of the detention of the 15 sailors kicking off the war that foreshadows the "Last 7 Years", he was dead wrong.

Again.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
David actually tied the detention of the 15 UK sailors to this war and then became more and more specific that this was THE event that would kick off the war he foresees, saying the Brits were set up as sheep for the slaughter, and then began to compare the entire scenario with the biblical story of King David setting up Uriah to be killed in battle so he could screw his wife.
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I was a bit perplexed at Capels post. I hadn't considered that he just didn't know what the point of the discussion was about. Good recap.
 
In reference to post #98.

DJJ: please refrain from putting your words in a quote attributed to me. You made it look as though I said things that I most certainly did not. If you do this again, I will alert the moderators. If you lack the technical skills to nest quotes, don't try.
 
DJJ said:
I mean anyone with half a brain and a little common sense knows the US/Britian and Israel are and have been planning this war for years.

JoeTheJuggler said:
Completely wrong, DJJ. I am am U.S. citizen, and I have NOT been planning a war against Iran for years. In fact, I'm a pacifist.
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(( But your country is not.)

JoeTheJuggler said:
OH--you didn't mean the entire U.S. has been planning this war for years?
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((No your leaders, differentiate between those running it and yourself)
JoeTheJuggler said:
Then what did you mean? Some people in the U.S. have been planning this war for years?
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(Wars make money for the rich)
JoeTheJuggler said:
If so, which ones?
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(The rich and powerful for then the poor are subservient to their lenders, to their masters, to their military leaders, etc etc etc.)
JoeTheJuggler said:
Where's your proof?
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(Look around)

JoeTheJuggler said:
But I suppose it's better to take the word of someone like yourself--someone with "half a brain" and "little common sense".
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(Don;t degrade your half brain, just use what you got, and quite being in denial , thinking you are a god. Wake up)
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DJJ, my point is that you're not saying at all what you mean. This conspiracy to go to war against Iran, for example. Give me some specifics of the claim you're making. Who's involved? You say it's our leaders--does that include pacifist Senator Dennis Kucinich? Does it include my city aldermen (who by the way just recently passed a resolution in opposition to the invasion and occupation of Iraq)?

Sorry "Look around" does not constitute proof. I am well versed on contemporary politics and international affairs. I am also an active participant in how my country is run. You make some grand sweeping statements that mean nothing whatsoever. One thing I find especially galling is that while a broad coalition of people work very hard to bring some sense and sanity into the conflicts in the Middle East, you seem to be wringing your hands in glee hoping for the bloody fulfillment of your absurd prophecies. Try to grow up and participate in the real world.

As for your admonition not to "degrade" my "half brain": FYI, I routinely score in the top percentile of standardized tests (SAT, GRE, etc.). You don't seem able to differentiate the words "quit" and "quite".

Also, you still haven't answered my question from post #84. Why do you think your ever-changing prophecies of doom are different than the hundreds that have been documented throughout the ages. You know how many of them turned out to be true?
 
I prophesize that DJJ, having had his arse thoroughly beat yet again, will not return to this thread. :D
 
CapelDodger said:
Not until the fat lady sings or they finally turn up the house-lights. I won't write off a US-Iran War until the US is so deeply bogged in Central America that nobody in Eurasia actually gives a toss about them any more. The Eurasian powers will be tussling over Africa, the next Really Big Thing.
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How will the US not be involved in the next Race For Africa? (Which is underway as we speak.)

I don't see it.

DR
 
So yes, the sailors are landed and safe in Britain. No more excuses, Dave. You lose.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
So as far as his idea of the detention of the 15 sailors kicking off the war that foreshadows the "Last 7 Years", he was dead wrong.

Again.
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Not if it does kick-off. That will necessarily be after this incident. That's close enough for prophecy. I'm not going to predict that this incident won't have any ramifications at all - the US is holding Iranians in Iraq without charge or consular access, for one thing. Iran can't allow that to go on for ever, and it may well become a flash-point. A straight track back to this incident would be easy to draw.

As for the seven years, we'll have to wait seven years to find out. In prophecy "Year" could be rhetorical anyway, as malleable as a "Day" is in a god's first job.
 
CapelDodger said:
Not if it does kick-off. That will necessarily be after this incident. That's close enough for prophecy. I'm not going to predict that this incident won't have any ramifications at all - the US is holding Iranians in Iraq without charge or consular access, for one thing. Iran can't allow that to go on for ever, and it may well become a flash-point. A straight track back to this incident would be easy to draw.

As for the seven years, we'll have to wait seven years to find out. In prophecy "Year" could be rhetorical anyway, as malleable as a "Day" is in a god's first job.
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Sure, of course the prediction could be correct in 7 thousand years given religious prognostication and the bible. Hell, anything can be tied to anything. The point is that Djj wanted us to be impressed that that this was going to cause a war. Well, no reasonable person is going to buy that since tempers have cooled and the soldiers are released. It really has nothing whatsoever to do with how Djj can twist logic to justify his belief. That is a given. It has to do with reasonable people rolling their eyes and saying that there is no reasonable basis to now make such a connection.
 
Darth Rotor said:
How will the US not be involved in the next Race For Africa? (Which is underway as we speak.)
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The race is on, the tussling is yet to come. The US will have been tussled-out in the Middle East by then. And broke. Africa is way out on the periphery of US strategic vision, but not so much in China, India and Europe.
 
RandFan said:
Well, no reasonable person is going to buy that since tempers have cooled and the soldiers are released.
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Tempers have nothing to do with such matters, calculations do.

It really has nothing whatsoever to do with how Djj can twist logic to justify his belief. That is a given.
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Which makes any claim of refutation a sitting target.

It has to do with reasonable people rolling their eyes and saying that there is no reasonable basis to now make such a connection.
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It's surely unreasonable to assume that a line has been drawn under the matter a day or two after the release. The US is still holding Iranian detainees without charge or consular access, after all.

But let's not drag our old Politics Forum habits over here, eh? :)
 
CapelDodger said:
Not if it does kick-off. That will necessarily be after this incident. That's close enough for prophecy. I'm not going to predict that this incident won't have any ramifications at all - the US is holding Iranians in Iraq without charge or consular access, for one thing. Iran can't allow that to go on for ever, and it may well become a flash-point. A straight track back to this incident would be easy to draw.

As for the seven years, we'll have to wait seven years to find out. In prophecy "Year" could be rhetorical anyway, as malleable as a "Day" is in a god's first job.
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Not according to DJJ. If you have followed him in this thread he has said:



DJJ said:
Its not funny but will happen. See todays news, as they will soon forget where the Brits were, and blame the Iranians for not relaeassing those that invaded their territorial waters. Iran will refuse to let them go, and we have the EXCUSE the Illuminati set up.


The british warship allowed them to get captured, and so now the British soldiers are thinking they got 'sacrificed'. Sheep to the slaugher for the greater goal, and EXCUSE to start the Iranian War.
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While he may not have intended it to actually be a "prophecy", he did strongly indicate specificities that did not occur and linked those directly to the beginning of this war.

And also according to DJJ's prophecy, we will know that his "Last 7 Years" thing is also bogus by July of 2009.



DJJ said:
Their time is short, they have to get a war going before the spring of 2009, so that a Covenant can be signed and installed.
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That was from this thread. In his "Prophecy Timeline" thread he has stated again and again that once this Covenant is signed, the Last 7 Years begins to tick like a time bomb. Since he has said that the 7 years is divided into 2 equal parts and the midpoint is Dec. 21, 2012, then the so-called "Covenant" will have to have been signed by June 21, 2009.

This is by his reckoning. This Daniel Chapter 9 timeline stuff is old hat with millennialists and they all have their own interpretations of how it will eventually play out.

To clarify again what i mean about DJJ's stuff about the sailors not being released as being the "kickoff"; if anything kicks off, the sailors not being released will not be a reason because that is history. They have been released.
 
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Cosmo said:
I prophesize that DJJ, having had his arse thoroughly beat yet again, will not return to this thread. :D
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Yes, Cosmos, you aren;t much of a prophet...

As there shall be an iranian war, and they will make up an excuse to go to war..... Iran won the last scrimmage with a PR coup, but with all those air craft carriers in place, the US has to use them pretty quick..... and YES the Russians also prophesied that the Americans are on the highest red alert as before the other wars.

So when you false prophets say Peace and SAFETY THEN cometh destruction.... you mellow out and say all things continue on your peace and harmony of the comfort of your status quo relationship with your evil governments, and then the Illuminato via its wars shakes you up...and they onl;y allowed to do because it is the Lord's timing....

Peace and safety and THEN WAR.

And then a COVENANT... and you should know the rest by now.


1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
 
RandFan said:
Sure, of course the prediction could be correct in 7 thousand years given religious prognostication and the bible. Hell, anything can be tied to anything. The point is that Djj wanted us to be impressed that that this was going to cause a war. Well, no reasonable person is going to buy that since tempers have cooled and the soldiers are released. It really has nothing whatsoever to do with how Djj can twist logic to justify his belief. That is a given. It has to do with reasonable people rolling their eyes and saying that there is no reasonable basis to now make such a connection.
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The Iragui War was not caused by anything the Iraqui did, or Hussein did, it was a matter of grabbing the oil, and getting rid of another Muslim nation. The excuses were made and then WAR followed.

It is logical and rational to see because of preparatrions and the excuses about so called nuclear enrichment that the Iran is next on the list. Any grade schooler could predict another war in Iran, only false skeptics who love their governments and are totally blinded to their methods can;t see the writing on the wall.

Now that the soldiers have been released, another excuse has to be found to bring about war. Maybe back to nuclear enrichment maybe another Tonkin attack, that escalates to a war excuse, maybe the plane excursions into Iran looking for retaliation will start a war, who knows, but there will be a war.... and it will be severe this time, and it will be settled by a COVENANT. As everything in prophecy is geared to the signing of the Covenant.

It gets signed in 2009 from my research and leadings and guidings of the Lord.
 
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