Iran War in Prophecy

[Davidjayjordan]

Wheres the comments about King David's set up to kill uriah the Hitite.

Are you guys afraid of a true story where a conspiracy esisted to coverr up a rape, and the husband was pushed into the front lines of a battle to get killed.

Exactly what Britian did to its soldiers as a favour to America for the excuse it needs to bomb Iran.

Wake up !!

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Me for starters. You said i was changing my attitude towards a war with Iran. If you should ever read and comprehend replies, you will find that what you said about that is not the truth.

All i am saying is that YOU are claiming that this CURRENT flap will be the start of a war with Iran which YOU say is prophesied in the bible and YOU say a lot of fantastic things will follow including the fire-breathing dragon/man stuff.

There have always been wars. There will always be wars in my lifetime. Peace and safety only occurs for those who have it. Haven't heard anyone here mention it except you.

Bjorn, you are hemming and hawing and covering your behind, to say the least.

Thats the trouble with fearful people, they have no courage... and so they keep excusing themselves for not knowing anything (and probably doing anything as well).

You are going to have to muster up some courage eventually Bjorn, rather than hiding behind your hemming and hawing and excusing.

Eventually you are going to have to choose, but your skills in doing so ... are very very weak, because your foundation is very very weak.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

proph·e·sy
–verb (used with object)
1.to foretell or predict.
2.to indicate beforehand.
3.to declare or foretell by or as if by divine inspiration.
4.to utter in prophecy or as a prophet.
–verb (used without object)
5.to make predictions.
6.to make inspired declarations of what is to come.
7.to speak as a mediator between God and humankind or in God's stead.
8.Archaic. to teach religious subjects.

DJJ, you are the only one who: foretells, predicts, indicates beforehand, declares by divine inspiration, utters in prophecy as a prophet, makes predictions, makes inspired declarations of what is to come, and teaches religious subjects. None of us prophetize, and so, to call us false prophets, or prophets at all, is nonsense.

Your god is the system and the world you love so much, and so you speak what the worldly ones want to hear....

You back up your own religion with your prophetic thoughts that your world will continue in peace and safety.... and no pain shall come upon you.. Revelation 17.

For don;t kid yourself..

There's Only Two Religions

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As Jesus said, "You are either with me or against me" And Jesus wasn't just talking for the sake of talking but stating an eternal truth. There are only two religions, Christian and non-Christian.

The religionist thought they were godly, but Jesus said they were of their father the Devil and His religion. They thought they were free, but Jesus told them they were the servants of sin. They thought they were better than others, but only Jesus or faith in the Messiah made or makes anyone better than anyone else and it is always a matter of God's GRACE.

So don't let anyone intimidate or trick you by saying that they are not religious. Anyone that has hardened their heart into athesim is against the Lord. Anyone that is hardened their heart and not searching and into being an 'agnostic' will eventually turn into a non-Christian.

Any witchcraft person who's says they don't belong to a religion is not telling you the truth. If they aren't telling you about Jesus, its the wrong religion. If the universities text-books don't give credit to the Creator known as Jesus, then its a non-Christian religious book. If scientists don't give due credit to the Lord, then they are promoting a false religion. If people say they are neutral, don't believe them, for we are all going one direction or the other. And if we don't dicide to go Jesus's direction then we are heading into the wrong religion even if people don't consider it a religion.

So don't let people con you when they say they aren't religious. For in essense, every word, act and thought is either in line with the Lord or is against Him.

Love Only in Jesus and Not in His Nemesis or Adversary

Jay

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[Athyrio]

Bjorn, you are hemming and hawing and covering your behind, to say the least.

Thats the trouble with fearful people, they have no courage... and so they keep excusing themselves for not knowing anything (and probably doing anything as well).

You are going to have to muster up some courage eventually Bjorn, rather than hiding behind your hemming and hawing and excusing.

Eventually you are going to have to choose, but your skills in doing so ... are very very weak, because your foundation is very very weak.

Choose what, FP ? The only weakness that is apparent here are your skills at prophecy and your ability to comprehend.

Very, VERY impotent.

 

[Athyrio]

[SIZE=-1]The LORD OF LORDS IS NOT TRICKY[/SIZE]

So why is he always jerking your chain and leading you into publishing false prophecies?

 

[hellaeon]

As Jesus said, "You are either with me or against me" And Jesus wasn't just talking for the sake of talking but stating an eternal truth. There are only two religions, Christian and non-Christian.

Well, for the sake of your worldview, consider me anything against you, so against Jesus too. Affect me much? Im sure you will tell me.

Do you actually read anything at all? You respond to peoples questions but not with anything meanigful to a consistent discussion but with more and more ravings of your retarded ideas.

Why did you change your prophecy dates? Were you wrong?

 

[hellaeon]

As Jesus said, "You are either with me or against me" And Jesus wasn't just talking for the sake of talking but stating an eternal truth. There are only two religions, Christian and non-Christian.

The religionist thought they were godly, but Jesus said they were of their father the Devil and His religion. They thought they were free, but Jesus told them they were the servants of sin. They thought they were better than others, but only Jesus or faith in the Messiah made or makes anyone better than anyone else and it is always a matter of God's GRACE.

So don't let anyone intimidate or trick you by saying that they are not religious. Anyone that has hardened their heart into athesim is against the Lord. Anyone that is hardened their heart and not searching and into being an 'agnostic' will eventually turn into a non-Christian.

Any witchcraft person who's says they don't belong to a religion is not telling you the truth. If they aren't telling you about Jesus, its the wrong religion. If the universities text-books don't give credit to the Creator known as Jesus, then its a non-Christian religious book. If scientists don't give due credit to the Lord, then they are promoting a false religion. If people say they are neutral, don't believe them, for we are all going one direction or the other. And if we don't dicide to go Jesus's direction then we are heading into the wrong religion even if people don't consider it a religion.

So don't let people con you when they say they aren't religious. For in essense, every word, act and thought is either in line with the Lord or is against Him.

Love Only in Jesus and Not in His Nemesis or Adversary

Jay

You know just reading such fundamentalist, brain washing words gives me such a sense of dread and despair. I have no idea why you think this would make anybody from a 'false skeptic' position like mine feel warm about embracing your God and removing so much freewill and knowledge that *ahem* was given to me by that God in the first place...

You sir are clearly crazy to place you brain into such a vice as this.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Foster, you are hindsighters and wait to laters, you have no foresight and INSIGHT but wait for the obvious before believing and seeing....

Djj, why should we believe your prophecy that war with Iran will happen as revealed to you by God? You have made one failed prophecy already which makes you, according to the Bible you constantly quote, a false prophet whom we should not fear. War with Iran is possible in the near future. No one has objected to that statement. What we object to is your "Divine Revelation" that war with Iran is inevitable.

 

[Kopji]

Yes, And I am saying you in your two minute study from a lack of knowledge from the Lord obviously couldn;t be expected to get it right, as you deem yourself wiser than HE and more righteous than Him. But with some breakings and eventual humility, your mind might be open enough to accept prophetic truths.

So pray you get humbled enough to accept these truths. As real love comes from real humility but false pride and arrogancy only brings on pain and sorrow....and ignorance

Well Dave, you told me I was wrong. I showed you I was right, proved it, and now you are just giving me some weird stuff about thinking I'm smarter than God, rather than defending how you are right instead of being wrong. Not much of a dialectic here. Oh sure, maybe if I'm humble enough I will come to see you are right and give up my arrogancy [sic].

But saying I only spent two minutes on you is just not very nice. I used to gladly and selflessly drive 50 or 100 miles just to go to church. I was raised on false prophets and people who swear they tell the truth. I believed.

I actually have some empathy for you, I know what is like to be trapped like you are.

Tell you what? Revisit what I wrote when 2012 comes around and your great prophecies have not come to pass. Find the courage to walk away from the nonsense.

 

[pandamonk]

Foster, you are hindsighters and wait to laters, you have no foresight and INSIGHT but wait for the obvious before believing and seeing.

And for that reason, he can never be labelled a false prophet. You've just shot yourself in the foot DJJ.

You lack the basic skills of common sense and logic and reason let alone a spiritual side to your thinking. You just have not mastered cause and effect and have not experienced its truths in your lifes. So YES, Foster, you won;t believe til you see, and even then will still deny deny deny.

What makes you think he lacks common sense, logic and reason? If he sees he won't deny that it has happened. I will deny that God told you though, because we have no evidence of that. Any idiot could have predicted we'd go to war over this. The US have wanted a war with iran for ages, and we all know they will see this as a reason for war.

That very well could be your eternal chosen destiny. DENIAL til you get real.

True lifes experiences usually wake people up, and so there may be hope for some of you.

The Iran War has to happen because the Mid east Covenant has to happen, and it can only be written and signed after ALL parties have had enough war.

The Iran War will not be a little local step on the country war as America's past ones.

Don't you guys read the papers, I mean other papers where some truths come out. Why are you so dumb and blinded.

That's the question ?

How can seemingly intelligent people that do have brains get so deluded into not using them ?

Who says we don't? You? Well we think the same of you DJJ.

 

[pandamonk]

Your god is the system and the world you love so much, and so you speak what the worldly ones want to hear....

I don't beleive in a god

You back up your own religion with your prophetic thoughts that your world will continue in peace and safety.... and no pain shall come upon you.. Revelation 17.

I don't have a religion. I don't prophetise, I've just shown you this DJJ.

For don;t kid yourself..

There's Only Two Religions


[SIZE=-1]As Jesus said, "You are either with me or against me" And Jesus wasn't just talking for the sake of talking but stating an eternal truth. There are only two religions, Christian and non-Christian. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]The religionist thought they were godly, but Jesus said they were of their father the Devil and His religion. They thought they were free, but Jesus told them they were the servants of sin. They thought they were better than others, but only Jesus or faith in the Messiah made or makes anyone better than anyone else and it is always a matter of God's GRACE. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]So don't let anyone intimidate or trick you by saying that they are not religious. Anyone that has hardened their heart into athesim is against the Lord. Anyone that is hardened their heart and not searching and into being an 'agnostic' will eventually turn into a non-Christian. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Any witchcraft person who's says they don't belong to a religion is not telling you the truth. If they aren't telling you about Jesus, its the wrong religion. If the universities text-books don't give credit to the Creator known as Jesus, then its a non-Christian religious book. If scientists don't give due credit to the Lord, then they are promoting a false religion. If people say they are neutral, don't believe them, for we are all going one direction or the other. And if we don't dicide to go Jesus's direction then we are heading into the wrong religion even if people don't consider it a religion. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]So don't let people con you when they say they aren't religious. For in essense, every word, act and thought is either in line with the Lord or is against Him. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Love Only in Jesus and Not in His Nemesis or Adversary [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Jay[/SIZE]

There isn't only two religions. Abrahamic religions: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Baha'i Faith. Dharmic religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism. Taoic religions: Taoism, Confucianism, Caodaism, Chondogyo, Yiguandao. Other religions: Paganism, Scientology, Shinto.

This is just a few of the many many religions, and doesn't contain all the different sects. Just because one religion says that they are the only true religion, and all others should be groupd into one, doesn't make it so.

 

[pandamonk]

Well Dave, you told me I was wrong. I showed you I was right, proved it, and now you are just giving me some weird stuff about thinking I'm smarter than God, rather than defending how you are right instead of being wrong.

Get used to it...

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Djj, why should we believe your prophecy that war with Iran will happen as revealed to you by God? You have made one failed prophecy already which makes you, according to the Bible you constantly quote, a false prophet whom we should not fear. War with Iran is possible in the near future. No one has objected to that statement. What we object to is your "Divine Revelation" that war with Iran is inevitable.

O.K,. Foster you as the spokesperson for your mob, are now changing your position from peace and safety to the probablility there could be a WAR in IRAN. This way you cover your ass when their is one and you don't have to believe prophecy.

So now your contention with me is again that you just don;t believe prophecy, that the GOOD LORD knows things in advance of what only your hindsight can tell you.

You oppose anyone greater than yourself as you deem yourselves the ultimate god. This more evidence that your agnostic mentality is a religion.

But at least you are coming to the logical conclusion that there has to be a WAR in Iran.

this even though the news from Iran today was a softening and possible get together with the Brits over the boundary.

Because of course there was a dispute over the boundary that was never determined.

But can this get settled amicably. You say YOU DON'T KNOW until,after something happens. I say, it is an excuse they need to go to war, and so shall have to stall peace talks and further escalate this crisis and make it into a war.

America can;t keep all those carrier forces in the Gulf for too many months and play too many war games year long in the Gulf. Wars take logistics and they have their pieces in place, so this British soldier capture has to be escalated.

There has to be a war before a COVENANT can be agreed upon. And then a building of a 3rd jewish temple.

But will you guys and gals believe in prophecy, doubtful you will always have excuses not to believe as your religion is always in doubt and uncertainty. You are just too fearful to make decisions based on evidence, even after you have been given sufficient.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Bjorn, you are definitely flowing further and further to the dark side. Maybe that's why your pic is sooo dark and lifeless and cold.

You had a chance and have rejected it. So sad.... and now you go deeper and deeper into the abyss of your own making.

 

[pandamonk]

Bjorn, you are definitely flowing further and further to the dark side. Maybe that's why your pic is sooo dark and lifeless and cold.

You had a chance and have rejected it. So sad.... and now you go deeper and deeper into the abyss of your own making.

Haha, you don't realise how crazy this all makes you sound DJJ.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I don't beleive in a god

I don't have a religion. ((Yes you do you are your religion, you worship yourself and your thoughts. You worship self righteousness)) I don't prophetise, I've just shown you this DJJ. ((No you think your non prophecy of knowing nothing about the future is the correct prophecy.... and pray you existence lasts long enough so your fears about the conspiracies don;t wreck your plans and your projected love life))


There isn't only two religions. Abrahamic religions: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Baha'i Faith. Dharmic religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism. Taoic religions: Taoism, Confucianism, Caodaism, Chondogyo, Yiguandao. Other religions: Paganism, Scientology, Shinto.

This is just a few of the many many religions, and doesn't contain all the different sects. Just because one religion says that they are the only true religion, and all others should be groupd into one, doesn't make it so.

Nope, there are not multiple gods and dieties. There are only two eventual choices. CHRIST and His righteousness or man made religions and their righteousness called SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS and the Law.

Jesus gives love via grace and mercy, the law brings death and war and competition and pride. TWO religions not many.

Your self righteous one won't help you.

 

[pandamonk]

Nope, there are not multiple gods and dieties. There are only two eventual choices. CHRIST and His righteousness or man made religions and their righteousness called SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS and the Law.

Jesus gives love via grace and mercy, the law brings death and war and competition and pride. TWO religions not many.

Your self righteous one won't help you.

There are not two religions. From your perspective, there ARE two choices Jesus or not, but from anyones' perspective there are two choices, their way or not their way. This does not mean that there are only two religions.

And again, i have no religion.

 

[Athyrio]

Bjorn, you are definitely flowing further and further to the dark side. Maybe that's why your pic is sooo dark and lifeless and cold.

You have a lot to learn about avatars (or vivitars, as you call them) too. Scares you, doesn't it?



BOO !!

 

[Foster Zygote]

O.K,. Foster you as the spokesperson for your mob, are now changing your position from peace and safety to the probablility there could be a WAR in IRAN. This way you cover your ass when their is one and you don't have to believe prophecy.

David, I defy you to find one statement I've made in which I indicated that I believed war with Iran was not possible.

So now your contention with me is again that you just don;t believe prophecy, that the GOOD LORD knows things in advance of what only your hindsight can tell you.

I have yet to see any evidence of the validity of divinly inspired prophecy. I've seen many examples of failed prophecies, including your own.

You oppose anyone greater than yourself as you deem yourselves the ultimate god. This more evidence that your agnostic mentality is a religion.

This is not true. I acknowledge many intellects greater than my own. Some are right here on this forum. And I am very open to the possibility that beings may have evolved elsewhere in the universe who are so far in advance of us that we couldn't even begin to comprehend them. You tell yourself these things so that you can avoid contemplating the bankruptcy of your own claims about the nature of the universe. You demonize us so you can remain blissfully ignorant of the gaping holes in your reasoning.

But at least you are coming to the logical conclusion that there has to be a WAR in Iran.

I have done no such thing. I have long feared the possibility of war with Iran but I see nothing that indicates that it is inevitable. I certainly don't accept the ravings of one who has already failed at prophecy.

this even though the news from Iran today was a softening and possible get together with the Brits over the boundary.

Because of course there was a dispute over the boundary that was never determined.

Nice sentence fragments.

But can this get settled amicably. You say YOU DON'T KNOW until,after something happens. I say, it is an excuse they need to go to war, and so shall have to stall peace talks and further escalate this crisis and make it into a war.

I don't know. But neither do you, as you have already shown yourself to be a false prophet. Pretending that you never made a failed prophecy and that no one is aware of it/asking about it will not make it go away. You had your one shot at prophecy and you failed.

America can;t keep all those carrier forces in the Gulf for too many months and play too many war games year long in the Gulf. Wars take logistics and they have their pieces in place, so this British soldier capture has to be escalated.

Yes, those carriers cost a lot of money to operate so I can certainly see why the U.S. would be forced to go to war to save money.

There has to be a war before a COVENANT can be agreed upon. And then a building of a 3rd jewish temple.

Another prophecy from a proved false prophet.

But will you guys and gals believe in prophecy, doubtful you will always have excuses not to believe as your religion is always in doubt and uncertainty. You are just too fearful to make decisions based on evidence, even after you have been given sufficient.

If I was shown consistently reliable prophecies then I would believe in prophecy. Yet there has never been one case of a specific prophecy proving genuine. You can pretend that the fault lies with us if that's what you need to do to prop up your fragile ego, but the truth remains that you have already made at least one false prophecy so far. If war fails to erupt in Iran will you be disappointed? Will you reevaluate your belief in your prophetic powers? When 2012 rolls around will you change the dates regarding your end times prophecy yet again? Will you still pretend that you've never made a false prophecy?

 

[Athyrio]

David, I defy you to find one statement I've made in which I indicated that I believed war with Iran was not possible.

He did the same thing to me. What a moral example he has set. He is so desperate to have his war so he can have his covenant, etc.