Iran War in Prophecy

[Beerina]

The world does not need a war to prevent a World War III, David, and it surely does not need more war in the Persian Gulf. For one thing, it would jack the price of oil up for a while

And thus both Iran and US oilmen win.

Wait a sec. I...oh, I thought I had an idea there, but it seems to have slipped my mind. Must not have been very important.

 

[Athyrio]

But before you call me anti-captialism, the Lord's prophecy is also anti-Communism as Russia will be the country that defeats America and its leader shall be the worst of the worst, the Anti-Christ.

Got to fly...

Oh David, David, David ---did you just step in it again?

OK

What i just heard is that Russia will defeat the USA.

The Anti-Christ will be a Russian.

And Russia is still a communist country?

Did i get this wrong?

 

[Foster Zygote]

Oh David, David, David ---did you just step in it again?

OK

What i just heard is that Russia will defeat the USA.

The Anti-Christ will be a Russian.

And Russia is still a communist country?

Did i get this wrong?

Last I heard Russia had become a kleptocracy.

 

[Glen.Nogami]

((Glen grow up, you have to figure things out, you have the responsibility. You can NOT trust the media to spell it out for you in black and white.... Use your God given brains if you have any.))

I'll only briefly mention the ad hominem. I did figure things out, and things said that nuclear war with Iran is not going to happen. I was wondering if you had some convincing bit of opinion stating otherwise. You do not. All I wanted to know.

((Glen, for get the delusion that republicans and Democrats are opposite, its a lie. They are the same, they are both American oriented, American interested, American aligned while BOTH being mastered by the Illuminati. Forget the delusion of democracy, and votes by the masses, and forget political parties as if they can go against the wishes of their MASTERS. Think Glen, think. Don;t be a sheep to the slaughter.....))

The Illuminati?! This is too funny. There is no God but God, and Dan Brown is his prophet, eh, Dave?

((Unlikely without knowing that there has to be a COVENANT and seeing America has excalated wars first in Afghanistan, then Iraq, Lebanon, Somali, logic and reason says they are off to topple another Muslim country))

What the hell are you talking about? What COVENANT? Topple it, maybe, though unlikely. Topple it through nuclear means? Still ridiculous.

Its not funny but will happen. See todays news, as they will soon forget where the Brits were, and blame the Iranians for not relaeassing those that invaded their territorial waters. Iran will refuse to let them go, and we have the EXCUSE the Illuminati set up.

Sending 15 Brits IN to get captured without support, the same as King David did to Uriah...... a sheep to the slaughter because King david raped his sheep while Uriah was off to war.

More Illuminati! It wouldn't be funny, except the extent of your website makes me think you actually believe this stuff. Of course, it's possible that I've been fooled, in which case I congratulate you on the skill and insane amount of time you're willing to devote to your parody. Anyway, though, what the hell does sheep raping have to do with anything? Stop mixing metaphors.

 

[Foster Zygote]

So are you guys MAN enough to apology for your peace and safety FALSE Prophecies.... when war breaks out.

Will you get serious with the Lord and with prophecy.

No one else has claimed to make a prophecy about Iran or anything else. Let me ask you this: Are you MAN enough to apologize for your end times FALSE prophecy? You've had ample opportunity to address the fact that you changed the dates of your prophecy after it failed to occur, moving the new date into the future. I can only conclude that you are unable to come up with an excuse for your failure and you are thus ignoring the issue all together. I can only conclude that you are a false prophet. You can continue to ignore this troubling question if it vexes you. Just remember that your failed prophecy is there or everyone else to plainly see.

 

[Kopji]

read it again, Jonah prophesied but his prophecy was conditional and the ruler of Nineveh repented and so the Lord's judgments did not fall on Nineveh THEN< only later when their sins revealed themselves again. READ IT.

But the Ciovenant is not a conditional prophecy, and the Last seven years are writtten in stone. Once the Covenant starts it is irreversable. And a war is needed to bring the Covenant parties together. TEN countries will sign.... probaly the Big 8 Israel and the Arab League.

Hi Dave,

(KJV public domain) boldface mine

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did [it] not.

So the preaching to Nineveh was not 'conditional' at all, but that it would be destroyed in 40 days. There was no equivocation. Jonah himself seems to realize this at the end of the story when God makes him look like a fool by not destroying the city.

If this was a 'conditional' prophecy, God would have no need to 'repent of the evil' (sorry, the Bible's own term there). He would just have 'relented'. That would have been much easier than raising the obvious paradox of God even being able to do evil. (hey, I did not write the Bible).

The prophecy to Nineveh was only 'conditional' because God repented. What would keep him from doing that again?

I'm not arguing that Bible prophecy makes any sense. I'm the one saying it doesn't.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Link me to someone who has said "peace and safety" on this board besides yourself. Do it !

If you reject the prophecy of war, then you accept or promote or submit to the prevailing prophecy of the false prophets, that there will be peace.
This false prophecy has been espoused by almost every poster so far except myself. But do tell me who else here is prophesying war in Iran.

Read 1 Thessalonians 5, Mathew 24, etc etc etc.. as you say, DO IT. Read it. For which of you is not a peace and safety false prophet ? Name one ?

1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

 

[Hokulele]

If you reject the prophecy of war, then you accept or promote or submit to the prevailing prophecy of the false prophets, that there will be peace.
This false prophecy has been espoused by almost every poster so far except myself. But do tell me who else here is prophesying war in Iran.

Read 1 Thessalonians 5, Mathew 24, etc etc etc.. as you say, DO IT.

False dichotomy.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Hi Dave,

So the preaching to Nineveh was not 'conditional' at all, but that it would be destroyed in 40 days. There was no equivocation. Jonah himself seems to realize this at the end of the story when God makes him look like a fool by not destroying the city. ((The Lord didn;t destroy the city because the king repented, and so there was no destruction til later when Nineveh again turned hard and THEN refused to humble itself under the mighty hand of God. Do read the whole story, Kopji rather than your personal mis-interpretation.))

If this was a 'conditional' prophecy, God would have no need to 'repent of the evil' -sorry, the Bible's own term there-. He would just have 'relented'. That would have been much easier than raising the obvious paradox of God even being able to do evil. hey, I did not write the Bible. ((No you didn't and didn't translate it either. And yet think you could have done a better job than the Lord. And Yes, the Lord changed the conditional prophecy or repented of what they deserved because their king humbled himself, this happenned many times in the past and now and will happen in the future. The Lord is the SAME))


The prophecy to Nineveh was only 'conditional' because God repented. What would keep him from doing that again? ((Because it is a set time frame talked about in numerous places. The timing can;t change as this is the End Time for the whole world, the finale, the closing curtain before He rises it for His RULE and REIGN. He has a plan and the evil ones are even fulfilling it, by getting their world together. For the Lord gives people what they want and deserve, and besides they have been promised their time of total rule. It helps people decide like yourself. You have to choose, and after the bells tolls for the last time, that time of choosing will be gone.. The Seven Years Prophecy is not conditional, it doesn;t use the WORD IF.... for no ifs and buts about it, it will HAPPEN on schedule and so no person can stop it. We can only get on the right side.... and watch the Lord work))


I'm not arguing that Bible prophecy makes any sense. I'm the one saying it doesn't.

Yes, And I am saying you in your two minute study from a lack of knowledge from the Lord obviously couldn;t be expected to get it right, as you deem yourself wiser than HE and more righteous than Him. But with some breakings and eventual humility, your mind might be open enough to accept prophetic truths.

So pray you get humbled enough to accept these truths. As real love comes from real humility but false pride and arrogancy only brings on pain and sorrow....and ignorance

 

[Davidjayjordan]

No one else has claimed to make a prophecy about Iran or anything else. Let me ask you this: Are you MAN enough to apologize for your end times FALSE prophecy? You've had ample opportunity to address the fact that you changed the dates of your prophecy after it failed to occur, moving the new date into the future. I can only conclude that you are unable to come up with an excuse for your failure and you are thus ignoring the issue all together. I can only conclude that you are a false prophet. You can continue to ignore this troubling question if it vexes you. Just remember that your failed prophecy is there or everyone else to plainly see.

I agree you guys haven't a clue about prophecy, and love this world so much and the status quo, that you probably never will accept that yourt little worlds will come tumbling down. And I agree you are false prophets that will never admit you are wrong about your false prophecies concerning the upcoming peace and safety that will keep you nicely tucked into your beds .... beside your comforting computers.

As for the Lord's prophecy it shall be fulfilled word for word. There will be a war in Iran, as the set up has already been put in place and STILL you refuse to recognise it and see it.

You have eyes to see and SEE NOT.

False prophets of peace and safety and the staus quo.

Reminds me of Elijah and the 400 false prophets. So you guys better enlist a few hundred or more false prophets to do some foot stomping and prayers to your God of evolution and god of luck and chance so the dice rolls peace and safety rather than the upcoming war.

 

[Hokulele]

As real love comes from real humility but false pride and arrogancy only brings on pain and sorrow....and ignorance

Oh the irony of it all.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

More Illuminati! It wouldn't be funny, except the extent of your website makes me think you actually believe this stuff. Of course, it's possible that I've been fooled, in which case I congratulate you on the skill and insane amount of time you're willing to devote to your parody. Anyway, though, what the hell does sheep raping have to do with anything? Stop mixing metaphors.

David raped Bathesba with his kingship position and got her pregnant, to hide his sin he wanted her husband to make love to her. This trying to fool him into believeing it was his. He refused. So King David had to kill him to try and cover up his sin..

2Sa 11:14¶And it came to pass in the morning, that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent [it] by the hand of Uriah.And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.

David like the British high commander, set the british soldiers out as shepp to the slaughter, they sent them into Iranian waters to get captured and be an excuse for the Iranian war, and then retired away from them.

The british warship allowed them to get captured, and so now the British soldiers are thinking they got 'sacrificed'. Sheep to the slaugher for the greater goal, and EXCUSE to start the Iranian War.

It was not the British soldiers fault, but it is the fault of the British/America military leaders ... for they are obeying those above them and I am not talking about figure head puppet ... Bush. The only people dumber than him, are those that follow him without question. These include the false sketrics !!!! for they are dumber than dumb

 

[Pardalis]

Wow, you can make the Bible say pretty much anything!

 

[pandamonk]

I agree you guys haven't a clue about prophecy, and love this world so much and the status quo, that you probably never will accept that yourt little worlds will come tumbling down. And I agree you are false prophets that will never admit you are wrong about your false prophecies concerning the upcoming peace and safety that will keep you nicely tucked into your beds .... beside your comforting computers.

proph·e·sy
–verb (used with object)
1.to foretell or predict.
2.to indicate beforehand.
3.to declare or foretell by or as if by divine inspiration.
4.to utter in prophecy or as a prophet.
–verb (used without object)
5.to make predictions.
6.to make inspired declarations of what is to come.
7.to speak as a mediator between God and humankind or in God's stead.
8.Archaic. to teach religious subjects.

DJJ, you are the only one who: foretells, predicts, indicates beforehand, declares by divine inspiration, utters in prophecy as a prophet, makes predictions, makes inspired declarations of what is to come, and teaches religious subjects. None of us prophetize, and so, to call us false prophets, or prophets at all, is nonsense.

 

[Athyrio]

For which of you is not a peace and safety false prophet ? Name one ?

Me for starters. You said i was changing my attitude towards a war with Iran. If you should ever read and comprehend replies, you will find that what you said about that is not the truth.

All i am saying is that YOU are claiming that this CURRENT flap will be the start of a war with Iran which YOU say is prophesied in the bible and YOU say a lot of fantastic things will follow including the fire-breathing dragon/man stuff.

There have always been wars. There will always be wars in my lifetime. Peace and safety only occurs for those who have it. Haven't heard anyone here mention it except you.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I agree you guys haven't a clue about prophecy, and love this world so much and the status quo, that you probably never will accept that yourt little worlds will come tumbling down. And I agree you are false prophets that will never admit you are wrong about your false prophecies concerning the upcoming peace and safety that will keep you nicely tucked into your beds .... beside your comforting computers.

As for the Lord's prophecy it shall be fulfilled word for word. There will be a war in Iran, as the set up has already been put in place and STILL you refuse to recognise it and see it.

You have eyes to see and SEE NOT.

False prophets of peace and safety and the staus quo.

Reminds me of Elijah and the 400 false prophets. So you guys better enlist a few hundred or more false prophets to do some foot stomping and prayers to your God of evolution and god of luck and chance so the dice rolls peace and safety rather than the upcoming war.

David, you still have not addressed the question regarding your failed prophecy. Your determination to ignore this issue speaks volumes about your inability to acknowledge your own errors. You quoted a Biblical passage that detailed how we are to recognize a false prophet. In a nutshell: If a prophet's prediction does not come to pass that person is a false prophet. The Bible says nothing about letting the prophet check his figures and make a revised prediction. You made a prophetic declaration about the dates of the end times that failed to come true. There is no way around this David. You are, by your own definition, a false prophet. You have discredited yourself.

 

[Foster Zygote]

If you reject the prophecy of war, then you accept or promote or submit to the prevailing prophecy of the false prophets, that there will be peace.
This false prophecy has been espoused by almost every poster so far except myself. But do tell me who else here is prophesying war in Iran.

False. One can reject the prophecy of war while accepting the possibility of war. The difference between us is that you have stated that you know through God that there will be a war with Iran. Most of us have said that there is no way of knowing what will happen. War is possible, of course. But it is not certain.

You're an odd one. You call those who have made no prophetic declarations "false prophets" while you yourself have made at least one failed prophecy but still call yourself a "prophet".

 

[jsfisher]

Well, it is official. The war in Iran will begin April 6 at 4am, local Irani time.



Link

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Wow, you can make the Bible say pretty much anything!

Yes the evil ones and the ignorant ones do try to do that all the time as well as the churchies. But Jesus is JESUS, and no one can change the way His Spirit speaks.

The devoid ones try to put words in His mouth because they do not know him and can not discern between the damnable church system and what He taught, but that's their fault and not HIS.

God is Not Tricky


[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Because so many people try to blame the Lord for their decisions and choices and even try to say that God tricked them into doing what they've done, let me say GOD IS NOT TRICKY. The Lord is straight forward and simple and honest and truthful just as with His own life when walking here on Earth.... He didn't trick anyone, into doing what He said was best. he gave them the choice and said over and over again "If any of you will, and Whosoever will, and as one ofHis Prophets said.

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Jos 24:15 Choose you this day whom ye will serve; we will serve the LORD.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

And the Lord's people choose wisely. But those that don't want His truths, He gives them an option to believe whatever convenient excuse they want to choose. He provides the lie if they don't want the truth. And so as can be seen today He has allowed people to believe in the deception and lie of EVOLUTION. He gives them the excuse (through demented scientists), they are looking for, so they don't have to believe Him or follow Him. But He doesn't trick them. They trick themselves and decieve themselves. He gives them what they want. If they don't want the truth then He even selects their delusion and even asks for volunteers from among the evil angels to go and deceive people.

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Isaiah 6:8-10 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And He (the LORD) said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes,and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

Everyone gets what they deserve and are without excuse which is why the Lord can judge them because the decisions were theirs. I mean even when the Anti-Christ comes the Lord says:

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]2 Thessalonians 2: 10-12 Because they received not the love of thetruth that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,but had pleasure in unrighteousness.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

So the Lord isn't tricky nor deccptful nor does He lie to us. The deceiver and LIAR is the devil and his people. For as the Lord said to the religionists that opposed Him

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

Therefore the truth is that the devil is the liar and the deceiver. He tricks and is the liar and always has been. So the Lord even uses this perfidious one for his purposes as you should know from prophecy. He, the devil is being used by the Lord to give people choices. and they must 'choose the good and eschew the evil'

And consequently we all have to learn to take the responsibility for our decisions and NOT blame the Lord for our bad decisions but rather ourselves and look to the Lord for His Mercy and Grace to get back onto the right track. For Jesus himself said, [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]"I (Jesus) am the way, the truth, and the life (John 14: 6) And ' Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]
The LORD OF LORDS IS NOT TRICKY


According to truth

David Jay Jordan[/SIZE]

 

[Davidjayjordan]

False. One can reject the prophecy of war while accepting the possibility of war. The difference between us is that you have stated that you know through God that there will be a war with Iran. Most of us have said that there is no way of knowing what will happen. War is possible, of course. But it is not certain.

You're an odd one. You call those who have made no prophetic declarations "false prophets" while you yourself have made at least one failed prophecy but still call yourself a "prophet".

Foster, you are hindsighters and wait to laters, you have no foresight and INSIGHT but wait for the obvious before believing and seeing.

You lack the basic skills of common sense and logic and reason let alone a spiritual side to your thinking. You just have not mastered cause and effect and have not experienced its truths in your lifes. So YES, Foster, you won;t believe til you see, and even then will still deny deny deny.

That very well could be your eternal chosen destiny. DENIAL til you get real.

True lifes experiences usually wake people up, and so there may be hope for some of you.

The Iran War has to happen because the Mid east Covenant has to happen, and it can only be written and signed after ALL parties have had enough war.

The Iran War will not be a little local step on the country war as America's past ones.

Don't you guys read the papers, I mean other papers where some truths come out. Why are you so dumb and blinded.

That's the question ?

How can seemingly intelligent people that do have brains get so deluded into not using them ?