iPhone 5

[Locknar]

I've read the stuff, I'm underwhelmed re the iPhone 5. Oh well.

 

[Vermonter]

You'll need to buy all new accessories too, becausa Apple changed the docking port on the 5.

Break out that wallet!

The only iPhone accessory I've purchased was a clear case for it. The only hassle will be syncing everything to my PC, then sync it to the new phone. I'm just one of those iPhone users who never got into the accessory craze.

 

[Vermonter]

Spend your money as you wish- but if a 3 year old product is showing signs of age serious enough to need replaced, should you not possibly consider a different manufacturer?

And if the "signs" are not serious enough to warrant replacement, then why would you do so?

In this case, the iPhone is physically in great condition. There are no hardware problems with it. However, the OS updates have rendered it sluggish and it doesn't respond as quickly as I would like. I'm going to keep the old one as a backup phone, or just to use as a mobile iPad / alarm clock. I don't need to replace it, as I'm sure the 3GS would provide service for several more years. However, I want to replace it since I would like an upgrade. That's why I waited for the 5 to come out.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Could you please not dishonestly snip my posts?


The "They need it." was clearly related to the rest of the post. TheL8Elvis likely knew this but yet disingenuously snipped it to contain the unrelated first half of the post and not the 2nd half.

Here is the rest of the post TheL8Elvis intentionally left out.



The "They need it." in that context clearly means "if they want to stop losing ground in phone and phone OS market share". For the past 2 quarters it appears that Apple is going to eventually end up with about a 5 to 10% market share, just like with PCs.

TheL8Elvis tries to make it seem like I meant that Apple is going poor...

Yes, TheL8Elvis, we know that Apple is the richest company in the world. That doesn't make market share facts just go away.

If you would like to do more than simply assert nonsense, please include some actual facts and figures, then we can discuss market share.

As you clearly demonstrated here, you don't have much of a grasp on apples actual market share.

 

[Vermonter]

That is a good point. It is my understanding that there are tons of 3GS users that skipped 4 and 4S completely.

Either they had 3GS since launch way back when (09?), or else they got it more recently in the 4/4S era because it was dirt cheap.

Apple is seriously hoping this (3GS users like Vermonter) is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, why they have been losing market share.

That's a very fair assessment, to me. As much of a tech-head as I am, I haven't had the urge or desire to buy the latest gizmo when it comes out for the sake of having the latest gizmo. Hell, most of the time I wait a year before buying it. This is an exception. I'm not a die-hard fan of Apple, but I do hope that they succeed where they can. Maybe they will regain market share from legacy users upgrading to the 5, who knows? The 3GS is a perfectly functional phone, it's just more sluggish compared to what I would prefer.

 

[This is The End]

If you would like to do more than simply assert nonsense, please include some actual facts and figures, then we can discuss market share.

As you clearly demonstrated here, you don't have much of a grasp on apples actual market share.

Ugh!!

First of all, I included links to the facts and figures. It's not only linked to in the parts snipped out of what you quoted, it's actually quoted!

You say "please include some actual facts and figures". They were in both posts you quoted. But you wouldn't know it from looking at both of your posts, because it was snipped from my quotes!

They have dipped a bit to around 15% Phone OS market share. I explained why I think that happened in that post. If that would have continued they would be into single digits, just like their PC and PC OS market share. Everyone is predicting a huge bump from the iPhone 5 which should bring them up to maybe 20%. I made that quite clear in my posts.

Second off all, your post from that other thread is clearly a fail. All you have to do is read my quote for comprehension and then look at your source.

 

[a_unique_person]

This is true. I hear they don't really employ hundreds of engineers but only a few graphic designers to create the pretty boxes to put the finished items in.

You need engineers to connect the chips that contain the smarts.

 

[This is The End]

That's a very fair assessment, to me.

Agreed.

Odd how when TheL8Elvis reads my post, the fact that I am saying that Apple is going to get a huge market share boost in the next couple of months is completely missed.

I'm glad that other people see that I made my opinion clear.

I'm not sure how anyone can read this:

Either they had 3GS since launch way back when (09?), or else they got it more recently in the 4/4S era because it was dirt cheap.

Almost all of them have been waiting for this day.

So add to that the die-hards that update ASAP every time there is a new version.... We are going to be looking at huge iPhone 5 sales numbers.

...and not see that I am saying its a good time for Apple.

 

[Ginarley]

As Schiller points out in the article I posted a few sentences up...

I don't disagree but it is still pretty cool and that's what is missing from Apple's recent announcements which was really my point

 

[Vermonter]

Agreed.

Odd how when TheL8Elvis reads my post, the fact that I am saying that Apple is going to get a huge market share boost in the next couple of months is completely missed.

I'm glad that other people see that I made my opinion clear.

I would be very surprised if Apple didn't have a huge turnout for the iPhone 5. While I don't think many who have the 4 or 4S will make the swap (except for the technophiles), legacy users such as myself will likely upgrade. If it's not a record turnout for sales, it certainly will bring them back up several percentage points of the market share.

The only snafu I really see is that some users may feel alienated with the change in form factor and socket. Then again, when has that stopped people before?

I'm glad that Apple released the specs and relevant information for the iPhone 5 several days before it's available for order. This was a smart move. It allows new and existing users to compare between their existing phone and the 5. I may be wrong, but previously I thought that they released it for sale as soon as it was officially announced.

 

[kajata]

I may be wrong, but previously I thought that they released it for sale as soon as it was officially announced.

There's usually a few days between unveiling and orders being taken with the iPhones and iPads.


Anyway, just checked out a few blogs and it's pretty funny to read the comment sections and how Apple is either the greatest company ever or the worst.

 

[merentha]

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/12/apple-offers-lightning-to-30-pin-adapters-for-29-and-39-both-ship-in-october/

So, no video or audio out with the expensive little adapter, thus rendering all those audio/media systems with iPod docks obsolete.

By the way, I love the expandable memory slots on my S3 phone and my Sony tablet. I don't have pay a manufacturer's tax to get that extra 32GB. It's not an anti-Apple thing. I didn't buy the HTC One-X precisely because it has no expandable memory slot.

 

[This is The End]

The only snafu I really see is that some users may feel alienated with the change in form factor and socket. Then again, when has that stopped people before?

At first I would have said no. As others have said in this thread.

But then 2 posts after yours:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/12/apple-offers-lightning-to-30-pin-adapters-for-29-and-39-both-ship-in-october/

So, no video or audio out with the expensive little adapter, thus rendering all those audio/media systems with iPod docks obsolete.

“Video and iPod Out not supported.”

With the adapter.


There may be some unhappy customers after all.

This now goes a bit farther from "we didn't have room for it" into "forced upgrade" territory.

 

[Vermonter]

At first I would have said no. As others have said in this thread.

But then 2 posts after yours:
With the adapter.

There may be some unhappy customers after all.

This now goes a bit farther from "we didn't have room for it" into "forced upgrade" territory.

I just read that. I saw the adapter, but didn't read into what the limitations were. I agree, this is definitely in "forced upgrade" territory, and there will be a (very understandable) backlash as a result. If I had a bunch of accessories that used A/V out, I'd be pretty torqued!

 

[quadraginta]

Meh.

When someone complains about 'swappable batteries' an I ask them about their own phone/laptop and how many extra batteries they carry, the answer has always been zero.

You seemed less emphatic about this a few months ago, when the same subject came up in this thread, and a number of people pointed out that they routinely carry spare batteries.

I understand that is anecdotal evidence, but there it is anyway.

Or not.

Besides, external batteries/battery powered chargers can be had that serve the same purpose, so I don't even see how that is a valid issue.

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Spare batteries are smaller, for one thing. Why buy a battery to charge another battery with a battery charger unless it's a battery you can't swap out.

Other reasons ... for example ...

My dad turned 82 last month, and for some stocking-stuffer type presents I got him a couple of spare batteries and a spare USB data/charger cable for his phone, plus one of these.

You see, he likes to go camping on the Outer Banks, and is prone to leave his car charger in his other car. He's run out of phone juice pretty regularly down there. Now he can keep the universal charger and spare cable in his toiletry kit, and he'll always have a few days worth of batteries charged up 'til he can get to a power source, if he needs them.

Sometimes he forgets to put his phone on the charger even when he's home. (Hey, he's 82. ) It's more convenient for him to swap in a charged battery and put the used one on a charger than it is to hook up the phone and wait.

 

[The Dark Lord]

So what could they have added that would have wowed you?


and don't say "Jelly Bean"!

I dunno. Certainly not features the competition has had for years.

So, it sounds like the proper conclusion is that every LTE and 4" phone that has come out in the last 2 years (after the first one) has been 'meh' ? It was only exciting the for the first ever LTE/4" screen phone ?

It is certainly no big deal to get an Android phone with an LTE radio anymore. Of the Android phones Verizon has on their website, 16 have LTE radios. 4 do not. AT&T has 10 Android phones with LTE radios. 5 without.

 

[Agular]

 

[brodski]

almost 60 posts and none has mentioned the killer feature yet? How the phone market has lasted so long without wrist straps I'll never know.

 

[Locknar]

Wrist strap, oh man!

 

[richardm]

Wrist strap, oh man!

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