iPhone 5

[Darat]

I'm impressed by Mr. Cook. No wiggling, no 'but we had to do it, it was the only way" and so on, just "we fell short."

Yeah it's about a good a "corporate apology" as you are likely to see. And very nice to see such a change of attitude at the top of company.

 

[tyr_13]

I'm impressed by Mr. Cook. No wiggling, no 'but we had to do it, it was the only way" and so on, just "we fell short."

I second this.

EDIT: Third this I guess.

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Anyone else hearing bad things about battery life?

 

[OCaptain]

The iPhone 5 has several of those things. However, it turns out there's not much wow in 44% better color saturation.

I think we're just going to agree to disagree on this but I will say one more thing -- Apple rarely takes a stab-in-the-dark approach to new features.

Whereas Samsung takes a "throw a bunch of stuff to the wall and see what sticks" approach.

 

[OCaptain]

That's good. Having glass on the back is freaking stupid.



By a couple percentage points on one benchmark. Means nothing.

Means it's slightly faster on that benchmark.

 

[OCaptain]

It's not something magical. Apple is just buying an off the shelf processor, so will it's competition.

I don't believe this is correct. Apple passed up on several off-the-shelf ARM processors because they didn't fit the requirements of a mobile device. They designed their own chip and Samsung fabricated it.

 

[OCaptain]

I think a_unique_person was just pointing out how an average person would read "Apple A6 Processor is a Custom Apple Design."

Just your average slightly misleading propaganda headline.

Fans eat it up, and it occasionally sways a consumer.

What part of that headline is inaccurate?

 

[OCaptain]

Let's just hope we get lots of funny stories like this before it's fixed!

Except the iPhans will walk right off that cliff or bridge if Siri tells them to.

Meh. People have been taking wrong turns and hitting buildings because their GPS tells them to for years. It's a human failing, nothing more.

 

[Dan O.]

I just discovered that a couple of locations I had saved in google maps street view had moved a full block away. How could this happen? Google is supposed to be perfect!!!! Now, how can I ever trust Google maps again?!

 

[OCaptain]

Looks like there may be some cosmetic problems with the hardware too, with speculation that Apple might have to do a recall.


It's the same problem that affected some versions of the iPod Nano, apparently. Of course that's less important on a £100 music player than a big, prominent flagship product. Perhaps there's something to be said for polycarbonate after all?

And who is extremetech.com??

 

[OCaptain]

Yeah it's about a good a "corporate apology" as you are likely to see. And very nice to see such a change of attitude at the top of company.

Even David Pogue, one of the insiders in journalism that Apple can rely on for a friendly review, said that the Maps app is probably the worst software Apple has ever released. I'll have to dig up the quote.

 

[OCaptain]

I just discovered that a couple of locations I had saved in google maps street view had moved a full block away. How could this happen? Google is supposed to be perfect!!!! Now, how can I ever trust Google maps again?!

GoogleGate!!

 

[Darat]

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Anyone else hearing bad things about battery life?

No but a lot of problems with older iPhones and the upgrade to iOS 6, mainly email no longer connecting and calendars duplicating entries. The solution to the email problem seems simply to delete the email account and then add it back.

 

[carlitos]

I just installed iOS6 on my 4G phone. No problems, and I like the VIP email folder.

 

[tyr_13]

No but a lot of problems with older iPhones and the upgrade to iOS 6, mainly email no longer connecting and calendars duplicating entries. The solution to the email problem seems simply to delete the email account and then add it back.

Hmm, I thought the email issue was a one off, as I've only heard it once. On the other hand everyone who got the 5 who I work with has had battery and charging issues. Our demo won't run off the charging cord. That is to say, it discharges faster than the new connector can charge it. I assumed it was the demo mode on the demo...but there isn't one.

Thanks for the email problem fix info. I speculated that could fix it.

 

[tyr_13]

I just discovered that a couple of locations I had saved in google maps street view had moved a full block away. How could this happen? Google is supposed to be perfect!!!! Now, how can I ever trust Google maps again?!

I don't know at what point 'Google Maps is a lot better and more accurate than Apple's new problematic maps' became 'Google Maps is perfect'.

 

[OCaptain]

I don't know at what point 'Google Maps is a lot better and more accurate than Apple's new problematic maps' became 'Google Maps is perfect'.

I think you're missing his sense of humor.

 

[kajata]

No but a lot of problems with older iPhones and the upgrade to iOS 6, mainly email no longer connecting and calendars duplicating entries. The solution to the email problem seems simply to delete the email account and then add it back.

The annoying thing for me were the duplicate entries after I allowed the system to have Facebook friends merge with my contact list.

 

[This is The End]

Yeah it's about a good a "corporate apology" as you are likely to see. And very nice to see such a change of attitude at the top of company.

Here's an article with that very theme:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/09/28/apple-iphone-maps/1601061/

Apple CEO Tim Cook is mapping a new image for the company -- one of a responsible corporate giant that makes mistakes -- in an about-face from the tone formerly set by co-founder Steve Jobs.

 

[Darat]

It's very canny business as well - it's fine being arrogant when you are in an unassailable position, indeed I'd say it can add a certain edge and value to the marketing of a brand but those days for the iPhone have gone. They are still really good phones but there is now nothing unique about Apple's proposition bar the branding, so being perceived as a "friendly" company that can hold its hands up when it screws up makes marketing sense.

Mind you I think that is reading more into it than will have gone on behind the scenes. I speculate that it is in fact down to a difference in personality of the top person, I don't think even his biggest fans would claim that Jobs was a humble person!

 

[This is The End]

Here's another article like that one, analyzing the apology and testing the alternative map apps.

http://www.eweek.com/mobile/apple-apology-gives-ios-6-users-chance-to-find-better-map-app/

I don’t think that we’d have ever seen anything like Apple CEO Tim Cook’s letter of apology to his customers in the past. In this extraordinary letter, Cook tells Apple’s customers he’s sorry that the Maps app for iOS 6 didn’t work out as well as it should have.

Then Cook did something even more striking–he recommended that iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch customers download mapping applications such as Microsoft Bing, MapQuest or Waze. He also told users that they could go back to using Google Maps, or they could choose the highly regarded Nokia maps.

I don’t think Steve Jobs would ever have recommended either Microsoft or Google regardless of the reason. But this is yet one more indication that Apple has moved on since Jobs’ death. Tim Cook, unlike the CEOs of many technology companies, appears to have accepted responsibility for a major failing on the part of Apple. For this, Cook is to be commended.

So now the question is just how good are the mapping apps that Cook recommended? Will they get you where you’re going? To find out, I downloaded the apps on the list, and I checked out the Web pages of the mapping sites. The good news? They all work.

It then goes on to talk about how well each one works on the i5. Bing gets that reporter's vote...