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Indiana's Fall Backwards

Robert Prey said:
And if that school teaches creationism, they just might be right. After all, if God is not the author of creation, then who is?????
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If it really needs to be said, creationism is not science and fairly easily debunked with physical evidence. Intelligent design is barely a pseudoscience that is not quantifiable and makes no confirmable predictions.
 
WildCat said:
It's Indiana, not Illinois. You misread.
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No, it is ignorant farmers keepin' their people dumb and dog-fearing.

By the way, I know a lot of farmer's who aren't dumb - some were and some are relatives. So, I am referring to the slime one's in Indiana, not all farmer's - just to be clear on why it's flyover country.
 
And, I just reminded myself - isn't Indiana one of those places where they were talking about the gov't making their kids marry same sex and even making them marry cows (not that some don't have "special relationships" with theirs but not marriage as such.....).........
 
Minoosh said:
Improve?



Is there a record of armed guards at schools making people's lives better?
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No, but if the guards are well trained and good at what they are doing, they can certainly help keep some from getting worse!
 
Ziggurat said:
And you don't see the irony of that post, right?
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The post is only ironic to those who endorse the right-wing destruction of the middle class and US industry in favor of short-term corporate raiding that makes the rich richer and everyone else poorer.
 
jj said:
The post is only ironic to those who endorse the right-wing destruction of the middle class and US industry in favor of short-term corporate raiding that makes the rich richer and everyone else poorer.
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Yup, you really don't see the irony in you accusing others of fear mongering.

I can't even make fun of your posts, they mock themselves much better than I can.
 
fuelair said:
No, it is ignorant farmers keepin' their people dumb and dog-fearing.

By the way, I know a lot of farmer's who aren't dumb - some were and some are relatives. So, I am referring to the slime one's in Indiana, not all farmer's - just to be clear on why it's flyover country.
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I'd bet kids in Indiana are far better educated than Illinois kids are. Hell in Chicago 40% don't even graduate high school, and the ones that do can barely spell their own names correctly. But it must be paradise, because we don't have vouchers!

Not every voucher goes to some fundy Christian school where creationism is taught, I'd bet Catholic schools get far more voucher students than the fundy ones and Catholic schools do teach evolution.

eta: and if Michelle Obama's parents had sent her to a CPS grade school instead of a Catholic grade school (her family wasn't even Catholic) she would have been very unlikely to have been accepted into Whitney Young HS (one of a handful of excellent CPS magnet schools), never gone on to Princeton, never met and married Barack.
 
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WildCat said:
Indiana is awesome. I'm going there tomorrow to do some shooting. $4 all day at a range run by the state DNR, they even have free clay pigeon throwers.

And cheap gas and cheap cigarettes and low sales taxes! Not a smoker though.

And an unemployment rate a full percentage point lower than here in the Democratic People's Republic of Illinois. And their pols haven't underfunded state employee pensions by $100 billion like Illinois pols have. And a lower crime rate.
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Why wildcat, why!? :covereyes

Governor Ryan wasn't republican? :boggled:
 
WildCat said:
eta: and if Michelle Obama's parents had sent her to a CPS grade school instead of a Catholic grade school (her family wasn't even Catholic) she would have been very unlikely to have been accepted into Whitney Young HS (one of a handful of excellent CPS magnet schools), never gone on to Princeton, never met and married Barack.
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True. I had to make the very difficult choice about where to send a child in the city of Chicago. He went to catholic grade and high school. It wasn't an easy decision, but he got a decent education.

As for "backwards" Indiana, I can't count on two hands the number of small and medium-sized businesses that have fled the city and Cook County to lower taxes in Indiana. I have one acquaintance that had an office in a pretty run-down, high-crime area of Chicago Heights. He relocated just across the border to Indiana and saved ~$15k in annual taxes, with twice the square footage. This kleptocracy can't last forever.
 
WildCat said:
I'd bet kids in Indiana are far better educated than Illinois kids are. Hell in Chicago 40% don't even graduate high school, and the ones that do can barely spell their own names correctly. But it must be paradise, because we don't have vouchers!

Not every voucher goes to some fundy Christian school where creationism is taught, I'd bet Catholic schools get far more voucher students than the fundy ones and Catholic schools do teach evolution.
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I went to a Catholic high school in Indiana. I was not taught anything about evolution. We were told that the church accepts evolution, but the subject was ignored completely in my honors biology class.
 
maxpower1227 said:
I went to a Catholic high school in Indiana. I was not taught anything about evolution. We were told that the church accepts evolution, but the subject was ignored completely in my honors biology class.
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I only went to Catholic school in 1st grade, and I distinctly remember Sister Marian talking about evolution. And that was back in 1971!

As for high school, isn't human evolution covered in grade school? IIRC I was in 6th grade when Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus and such was taught, by high school it was more minutia than the big picture. Photosynthesis and Mendel's peas and dissecting worms and frogs and rats and such.
 
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fuelair said:
No, it is ignorant farmers keepin' their people dumb and dog-fearing.

By the way, I know a lot of farmer's who aren't dumb - some were and some are relatives. So, I am referring to the slime one's in Indiana, not all farmer's - just to be clear on why it's flyover country.
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I actually happen to know some farmers in Indiana. A couple of Mennonite guys.

Great guys. Simple*-, but not stupid by any means.



*simple as in uncomplicated by the crap most of us get twisted up in.
 
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