Hyper Dimensional Design

[Blue Mountain]

yes I know and almost everybody will agree with you. Doesn't mean you are right

Ockham's razor states:

When multiple competing hypotheses are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the hypothesis that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities. (Wikipedia)

You provide a fantastical, inordinately complex numerological (or should that be numeroillogical?) system totally unsupported by mathematics, physics, and astronomy to weave together a massive web of "synchronicities" that you think explains current events. As skeptics we apply tools that are designed to prevent us from fooling ourselves. In all the cases we've examined here, these tools provide a more mundane explanation for why events appear to be related.

We are convinced the mundane explanation trumps the Hyper Dimensional Design explanation, because the mundane satisfactorily answers the the question "Why do these events appear to be related?" without having to invoke hyperdimensional octahedrons, phi timespirals, or anything of the sort.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Why can't a lie not be a synchronicity?

I have even said that HDDEsign will eventually be stronger than every lie

These are all expressions of consciousness.

If that's the case, then can anything at all be a "synchronicity"? Is that not getting awfully close to my earlier conjecture that HDD will eventually link everything together while explaining nothing at all?

 

[Paul]

Truman made the political decission to use nuclear weapons on July 20, 1945

I'll ask you again, how do you know when Truman decided to use the atomic bomb? he didn't even receive his first detailed report on the July 16^th test until the afternoon of the 21^st.

There is no mention in his diary about his decision at all until the 25^th when he says the bomb will be "used against Japan between now and August 10^th"

 

[Paul]

befehl ist befehl right?

Leaving aside the idiotically inappropriate analogy, it has already been pointed out by Blue Mountain and by me that the date of the decision or the date of the orders is irrelevant compared to the first military deployment of an atomic weapon.

If you are having trouble understanding that, almost until the actual event, the detonation of the bomb was not guaranteed, you should do more research before making silly declarations.

 

[Dutch]

That's what I get for posting at 3:00 in the morning because I couldn't get to sleep. I guess I was more tired than I thought.

However, you are wrong when you said "nothing happened on August 8, 1945." True, nothing happened as far as atomic bombs being dropped is concerned, aside from the preparations for the bombing in Nagasaki. But on that date the United States signed the United Nations charter. Does that count for anything?

duh, we talk about Hirhoshima and Nagasaki here, the actual detonation and the decissions. Just say you are wrong is enough

 

[Dutch]

Yes, only following orders. Soldiers following orders is hardly noteworthy.

So you probably also think that when our chosen leaders decide NOT to protect the people of Srebrenica, that its none of our business?

HDDesign shows differently, we all have our responsibilities

 

[Dutch]

I note you completely failed to address my point that the date you keyed on was the date the news was reported, not the date on which it happened.

The dates are not predetermined. In fact, by rolling dice I could generate a bunch of totally random dates and declare there will be an "Obama or Biden security issue" on those dates, +/- 1 day, and chances are pretty good there will be a report on (or close to) those dates.

after thousands of post you still doesn't seem to get that this is about consciousness. The timing of 'reaching the macro level' is just as signifigant as the actual event

 

[Dutch]

The dates are not predetermined. In fact, by rolling dice I could generate a bunch of totally random dates and declare there will be an "Obama or Biden security issue" on those dates, +/- 1 day, and chances are pretty good there will be a report on (or close to) those dates.

I had to list it once before in this thread, I talk about the security issue for Obama here. You can look it up yourselves, somwhere in august 2008 I think.

The date April 7, 2009 was already given back than. Go check , its all there

edit± this is the 5th time in a row such a security issue for Obama occurs, all on predetermined dates. You can verify. Do it

 

[Dutch]

Ockham's razor states:

You provide a fantastical, inordinately complex numerological (or should that be numeroillogical?) system totally unsupported by mathematics, physics, and astronomy to weave together a massive web of "synchronicities" that you think explains current events. As skeptics we apply tools that are designed to prevent us from fooling ourselves. In all the cases we've examined here, these tools provide a more mundane explanation for why events appear to be related.

We are convinced the mundane explanation trumps the Hyper Dimensional Design explanation, because the mundane satisfactorily answers the the question "Why do these events appear to be related?" without having to invoke hyperdimensional octahedrons, phi timespirals, or anything of the sort.

Unless you are the Queen of the Netherlands, or the Uk if you prefer, you should talk on behalf of yourselves only.

You are making it complex, in fact I only use the harmonics within our own solar system

 

[Dutch]

If that's the case, then can anything at all be a "synchronicity"? Is that not getting awfully close to my earlier conjecture that HDD will eventually link everything together while explaining nothing at all?

Do you think human interaction is only valid when they interact based on truth?

 

[Dutch]

Paul,

July 21, 1945 - WWII: Harry S. Truman approves the order for atomic bombs to be used against Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945

That´s within the set limits of +/- 1 day in HDDesign

remember we live on a planet with time differences. Tunguska happened in Russia, Truman ltook the decission in America.

Although I have stated repeatedly that this +/- 1 day is way to rigid, it perfectly matches in this case

 

[Dutch]

Leaving aside the idiotically inappropriate analogy, it has already been pointed out by Blue Mountain and by me that the date of the decision or the date of the orders is irrelevant compared to the first military deployment of an atomic weapon.

If you are having trouble understanding that, almost until the actual event, the detonation of the bomb was not guaranteed, you should do more research before making silly declarations.

You are using the words silly, inappropriate and even idiotic.

What you are saying is in fact that the poor soldier that pushed the button in Elona gay is solely responsible for hirhoshima?

I think this is a bridge too far for you

 

[Paul]

July 21, 1945 - WWII: Harry S. Truman approves the order for atomic bombs to be used against Japan.

If you read the source for that, it seems to say that on the 21^st Truman approved the orders, the form or language of the orders, not gave any orders for the use of the bomb; the Secretary of War "passes on" orders on the 24^th and the acting Chief of Staff gave "the only written order on the use of atomic weapons" to the commander of the United States Army Strategic Air Forces on the 25^th.

When Truman approved the orders he didn't even know when the first bomb would be ready, so the act of approving had no real significance in the way you insist.

That´s within the set limits of +/- 1 day in HDDesign

remember we live on a planet with time differences. Tunguska happened in Russia, Truman ltook the decission in America.

Are you claiming that you arbitrary latitude is because you are too lazy to convert all dates to universal time?

Although I have stated repeatedly that this +/- 1 day is way to rigid, it perfectly matches in this case

It's precisely because you are not rigid enough that you can drag in all kinds of events and force them to fit.

 

[Paul]

You are using the words silly, inappropriate and even idiotic.

Yes, I am, they seem to be popping into my head with tedious regularity at the moment.

What you are saying is in fact that the poor soldier that pushed the button in Elona gay is solely responsible for hirhoshima?

No I'm not, I am using the appropriate words to describe your reference of the Nuremberg Defense.

The "poor soldier" was Major Thomas Ferebee the bombardier, but even on the 'plane he was responsible to the bomb commander, William S. Parsons, who was a Navy Captain.

By the way, the aircraft is still called Enola Gay.

I think this is a bridge too far for you

I think you should take the time to understand why your combinations of impenetrable home-brew jargon, poor or absent research, lack of understanding of the context of specific events, loose application of your own rules and misuse of physics astronomy and geometry, among other things, lead us to some fairly basic requests for explanation or clarification.

 

[Blue Mountain]

after thousands of post you still doesn't seem to get that this is about consciousness. The timing of 'reaching the macro level' is just as signifigant as the actual event

Oh boy! Yet another piece of wiggle-room to add to your already generous timings. So not only can HDD describe an event when it actually occurs, but also when it reaches the macro level the media reports on it.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Unless you are the Queen of the Netherlands, or the Uk if you prefer, you should talk on behalf of yourselves only.

You are making it complex, in fact I only use the harmonics within our own solar system

Two comments on this:

Given the choice between a small set of logical fallacies and the complex interactions proposed by HDD (plus the fact there is no observational evidence to support the idea that there is an intelligently designed hyper-dimensional octahedron centered on our solar system), Occam's Razor states that the simpler explanation is preferred.

Second, how can you talk about harmonics when are none? That is, the positions of Earth relative to those of Mercury, Venus or Mars are different whenever HDD related events occur?

 

[Blue Mountain]

A general question on HDD: Is our solar system the only one in the entire universe to have HDD? Or does every star with planets orbiting it have one?

 

[Dutch]

If you read the source for that, it seems to say that on the 21st Truman approved the orders, the form or language of the orders, not gave any orders for the use of the bomb; the Secretary of War "passes on" orders on the 24th and the acting Chief of Staff gave "the only written order on the use of atomic weapons" to the commander of the United States Army Strategic Air Forces on the 25th.

When Truman approved the orders he didn't even know when the first bomb would be ready, so the act of approving had no real significance in the way you insist.

The political decission to use nuclear weapons on Japan was taken on August 21, 1945. period.

 

[Dutch]

Are you claiming that you arbitrary latitude is because you are too lazy to convert all dates to universal time?

lazy? I think I have already explained a dozen times in this thread only why I use +/- 1 day and why this limitation is even way to rigid.

 

[Dutch]

No I'm not, I am using the appropriate words to describe your reference of the Nuremberg Defense.

The "poor soldier" was Major Thomas Ferebee the bombardier, but even on the 'plane he was responsible to the bomb commander, William S. Parsons, who was a Navy Captain.

By the way, the aircraft is still called Enola Gay.

a bridge too far indeed, I was talking about responsibilities. your reply makes no sense at all