Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paulhoff]

That means that both Challenger and Columbia were taken out by Design

No, that would mean that there were design flaws, or poor designs, not woo-woo design.

Paul

 

[Paul]

so the disaster with the Challenger happened in fact at Phi point between this re-entry of the last manned Apollo and the re- entry of the Columbia, resulting in desintegration.

You seem to be either making an arbitrary decision that Apollo is somehow especially important, or you have failed to notice that Apollo-Soyuz was merely the last manned flight for NASA, Soyuz 21 was up in July 1976.

Which is it? and if it is the former, what is so special about Apollo?

 

[Broes]

'stay out of space and don't mess with nuclear power'

Is it with each and every little mishap that you are gonna yell this slogan again and again, claiming that we are being warned from a hidden dimension that we should refrain from going to space or utilise nuclear power?

Why is it that you see warnings in mishaps with these items and not for example in schoolbus traffic accidents?

 

[Dutch]

we must not forget that the 'Srebrenica karma' theme is coming up soon:
April 7, 2009 - 'Srebrenica karma'
read related info here in this post:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879

This date April 7, 2009 was in fact already pre-determined back in 2006 when the underlying timecoded pattern as linked to the 'Srebrenica massacre' was discovered. The underlying themes are outlined in the given link above, I wrote in January 2008:

The next Venus Year around January 13, 2008 came and I wrote:
"I expected developments around January 13, 2008 on the 'Balkan Karma' timecoded pattern, that found its origin with the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995, the biggest massacre in Europe since WWII. Peace keeping forces from The Netherlands were supposed to protect the muslims in UN safe haven srebrenica, but the troops surrendered to the Serbs when air support was refused. The Dutch soldiers didn't fight the Serbs and failed to protect the muslims.
As a result thousands of muslim men and boys were seperated from their families and shot to death in the area around Portocari while the Dutch soldiers eventually returned home safely.
This terrible theme finds its expressions in 2 already identified timecoded patterns, the first one is the 911 HD Tetrahedron based Golden Mean Phi timecoded spiral which is monitored in a seperate thread while the keydates are mentioned on the timelines.
The other one is the Venus based 'Balkan Karma' timecoded pattern which is also monitored in a seperate thread and determined this timeframe around January 13, 2008. This timeframe made me expect prior to March 11, 2006 that someone 'would be taken out by Design' in relation to this underlying theme and I posted it prior to the timeframe.
On the expected date Milosevic died in his prison.
This same underlying Venus based timecoded pattern took out Arkan and as I expected for the timeframe around June 2, 2007: Tolimir, the number 3 on the most wanted list, just after Mladic and Karadzic.
During that same timeframe the Gouvernment of the Netherlands was sued by the women of Srebrenica, who marched to the International Court in The Netherlands to file the legal documents.
I asked to keep an eye on Mladic and karadzic and on those (politically) responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre and look what actually happened during the timeframe:
2 Dutch soldiers killed in Afghanistan
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/6337205.html
Its the first time that 2 Dutch soldiers were killed on same day during this peacekeeping mission in Uruzgan. The soldiers were killed by friendly fire.
The troops that didn't protect the people of Srebrenica, the inital event of this timecoded pattern, are now killing their own on the next hit of the timecoded pattern
The 'message' becomes clear further down the timecoded pattern. Those responsible for the Srebrenica massacre will have to deal with their responsibilities sooner or later. The same underlying timecoded pattern that took out Arkan, Milosevic, Tolimir and that brought the women of Srebrenica, who lost their men and sons, to The Netherlands in order to sue the Dutch gouvernment, is now showing this terrible incident with Dutch soldiers shooting at eachother killing 2 and wounding more.
The underlying Design is unveiling the profound truth behind the events in our reality. The decission not to protect the people of Srebrenica, with thousands of muslim men and boys shot to death as a result, is the same as killing your own.
This pattern will continue and shows a next hit in August 2008. Mladic and Karadzic are still out there. It could be that an related conviction will happen, or that they are arested. Or maybe it becomes clear who's responsible for the refusal of air support.
If these events around January 13 didn't convince you of the validity of the underlying Design, maybe the next hit will do with the given information in mind"
next date is around August 25, 2008 as mentioned on the timeline.

Another underlying theme that is linked to this specific pattern is the 'security issue' for Obama or Hillary, as we have already seen on the previous keydates on this timecoded pattern. See the related threads at the bottom for details.
Now this timeframe around April 7, 2009 showed these identified underlying themes again:
We have already seen that Dutch soldiers were klled by friendly fire on this specific pattern and now a Dutch soldier died by an attack on 'Kamp Holland'. Its the first time soldiers are hit at 'Kamp Holland'.
Nederlandse militair komt om in Afghanistan
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/1944973/nederlandse-militair-komt-om-in-afghanistan.html
Dutch soldier killed in attack on kamp Holland
Dutch Soldier Killed in Afghanistan
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123908443279396277.html
SREBRENICA: NOT SAFE
KAMP HOLLAND : NOT SAFE
and again this timecoded pattern gives a 'security issue' for Obama:
April 6, 2009 -- Updated 0158 GMT (0958 HKT)
Plot to assassinate Obama foiled in Turkey
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/06/turkey.assassination.plot/index.html
related threads:
Q2 2009 Timeline, April, May and June 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about374-hddesign.html
911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

 

[Dutch]

EUFOR in new Mladić search op.
7 April 2009 | 10:06 | Source: Beta
BANJA LUKA -- A strong EUFOR force has blocked the entrance and exit to the village of Han Pijesak in search of proof that could lead to Ratko Mladić’s arrest.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=04&dd=07&nav_id=58345

 

[Blue Mountain]

This date April 7, 2009 was in fact already pre-determined back in 2006 when the underlying timecoded pattern as linked to the 'Srebrenica massacre' was discovered. The underlying themes are outlined in the given link above, I wrote in January 2008:

(quoted post snipped)

Another underlying theme that is linked to this specific pattern is the 'security issue' for Obama or Hillary, as we have already seen on the previous keydates on this timecoded pattern. See the related threads at the bottom for details.

See my comment below.

Now this timeframe around April 7, 2009 showed these identified underlying themes again:
We have already seen that Dutch soldiers were klled by friendly fire on this specific pattern and now a Dutch soldier died by an attack on 'Kamp Holland'. Its the first time soldiers are hit at 'Kamp Holland'.
Nederlandse militair komt om in Afghanistan
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/1944973/nederlandse-militair-komt-om-in-afghanistan.html
Dutch soldier killed in attack on kamp Holland
Dutch Soldier Killed in Afghanistan
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123908443279396277.html
SREBRENICA: NOT SAFE
KAMP HOLLAND : NOT SAFE

There is no connection between the events in Sebrenica with the events in Afghanistan aside from the fact Dutch soldiers were involved. By that logic you can connect any two events in the world where soldiers of the same army are present. So that means a snowstorm in Toronto (where soldiers were involved with assisting people with medical emergencies get to the hospital) is mysteriously connected to peacekeeping operations in Cyprus (where Canadian soldiers were stationed from 1963 to the mid 1990s.)

and again this timecoded pattern gives a 'security issue' for Obama:
April 6, 2009 -- Updated 0158 GMT (0958 HKT)
Plot to assassinate Obama foiled in Turkey
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/06/turkey.assassination.plot/index.html

From the article (bolding mine)

But the officials strongly cautioned that American presidents are frequent targets of threats that are all watched very carefully, and in this case the alleged plotter did not appear to get anywhere close to Obama during his European tour.

Yawn. Yet another non-event. And I note the plot itself was foiled last week. Once again you are confusing the date of the report of an event with the event itself. We call that "cherry-picking the data."

 

[Blue Mountain]

" a minor aircraft incident in Hiroshima "

Blue.......I don't know if you deliberately changing my posts or that you are just plain...

That minor aircraft incident IN Hirhoshima you talk about are the moments of decission and the military order to drop an atomic bomb on Hirhoshima.

That's what I said

No, the "minor" incident I'm referring to is the one on August 8, 2005. Even after putting the correct date into Google I can find no references to news of this incident. That's why I classify it as minor.

Read again

Tunguska happened at THE moment in order to mark the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact. This phipoint marks the moment that it was decided to uses nuclear arms on Japan.

This 'Hirshosima crash' ( reread previous posts about the identification ) happened on August 6 2005, THE moment with at Phi point in between Tunguska the moment the military order to use nuclear weapons was given

Wrong. The important dates in the Hiroshima bombing are

• July 26, 1945: The Potsdam Declaration. Truman had already made the decision to use the bomb if the Japanese did not surrender.
• August 8, 1945: The date everybody remembers.

Frankly, the military orders mean nothing. It's just part of the process, as was the transport of the bombs to the base, planning of the attack itself, the selection of the aircraft and crew, and the actual mission.

So both Tunguska and the Hirhoshima crash happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time, marking Deep Impact and Hirhoshima-Nagasaki.

Tunguska can happen at any intelligently Designed moment in our perception of time, seems pretty obvious to me

To you, perhaps. Not at all to me.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Second, what on earth does this have to do with the Tunguska event? It's not even the same meteorite!

Third, are you aware that the Shroud of Turin is a forgery, and has been known as such since it first came to light the 14th century?

I don't think your mindset is able to accept the signifigance of synchronicities. I advice you to let it rest because we are going nowhere this way. I will go on though

Dutch, given that the Shroud of Turin is a forgery, why do you want to use it to demonstrate HDD? Synchronicity should mean nothing if one of the two things you're linking together is fake!

 

[Dutch]

The Prime Minister of the Netherlands talks about a cowardly attack on 'Kamp Holland', which killed a Dutch soldier.
Balkenende: laffe aanval op Kamp Holland
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3651901/__Balkenende__laffe_aanval__.html?p=2,1
Remember this is about Srebrenica karma and the Prime Minister back in 1995 was ultimately politically co-responsible for the lack of protection that was given to the people in UN safe haven Srebrenica.
Cowardly, that's what he said.
Its the difference between being photographed on the the left- or right side of this picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Dutch23031965/april72.jpg
Terror threat remains for The Netherlands:
Kans op aanslag in Nederland blijft
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3663016/__Kans_op_aanslag_in_Nederland_blijft__.html?p=2,1
These kind of 'Srebrenica karma' expressions were expected for around April 7, just like during the previous identified keydates on these timecoded patterns.
It has found expression via the 911 ( Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron ) based Pim Fortuyn- Theo van Gogh Golden Mean timecoded spiral as explained in the HDDesign material.
Pim fortuyn:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Dutch23031965/pim_Fortuyn_athmb.jpg
Theo van Gogh:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Dutch23031965/theo-van-gogh_web.jpg
again the underlying themes are expressed, announced on April 7:
Leon de Winter writes a thriller about Mohammed B., the killer of Theo van Gogh !!!!
Leon de Winter schrijft thriller over Mohammed B.
http://www.debeurs.nl/cultuur/298228/Leon-de-Winter-schrijft-thriller-over-Mohammed-B.html
Here's another 'security issue' for Obama expressed on April 7
Libya's Gaddafi says fears Obama assassination
Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi Tuesday called Barack Obama a "flicker of hope in the middle of the imperialist darkness," but said he feared the president could be assassinated.
Gaddafi, known for his controversial statements, did not say who might want to kill Obama but gave the examples of the assassinations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln, as well as black rights leader Martin Luther King.
"I fear that they could liquidate this young man or force him to submit to their imperialist policies," Gaddafi told a university gathering of his supporters in Sirte, without specifying who might put Obama under pressure.
"Obama is a flicker of hope in the middle of the imperialist darkness," the Libyan leader said, adding: "There is a fear that they would liquidate him as they liquidated Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln."
http://www.reuters.com/article/worl...eedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=22&sp=true
The assassination of Abram Lincoln is on the timeline for April 14-15

 

[Dutch]

There is no connection between the events in Sebrenica with the events in Afghanistan aside from the fact Dutch soldiers were involved. By that logic you can connect any two events in the world where soldiers of the same army are present. So that means a snowstorm in Toronto (where soldiers were involved with assisting people with medical emergencies get to the hospital) is mysteriously connected to peacekeeping operations in Cyprus (where Canadian soldiers were stationed from 1963 to the mid 1990s.)

yes there is, I have been monitoring these patterns since several years, you can read it in the given threads. You refuse to see it, that's something else

 

[Dutch]

Yawn. Yet another non-event. And I note the plot itself was foiled last week. Once again you are confusing the date of the report of an event with the event itself. We call that "cherry-picking the data."

Its the 5th time in a row that such a thing occurs with this 'Obama security issue' . THIS IS NOT CHERRY- PICKING! the dates are pre-determined.

 

[Paulhoff]

yes there is, I have been monitoring these patterns since several years, you can read it in the given threads. You refuse to see it, that's something else

There is nothing there like you say it is, Dutch you have a problem, get help.

Paul

 

[Dutch]

No, the "minor" incident I'm referring to is the one on August 8, 2005. Even after putting the correct date into Google I can find no references to news of this incident. That's why I classify it as minor.

Because you are stilkl using incorrect data. Hirhoshima happened on an August 6, the crash on August 6, 2005. The crash popped up by synchronicity as outlined in previous posts and the link was gievn

 

[Dutch]

Wrong. The important dates in the Hiroshima bombing are

• July 26, 1945: The Potsdam Declaration. Truman had already made the decision to use the bomb if the Japanese did not surrender.
• August 8, 1945: The date everybody remembers.

2 times wrong

Truman made the political decission to use nuclear weapons on July 20, 1945

and nothing happened on August 8, 1945, as almost everybody knows.

August 6 and 9, Hirhoshima - Nagasaki

I am wasting my time with you, you need to do better than this if you expect me to continue to answer your replies

 

[Dutch]

Frankly, the military orders mean nothing. It's just part of the process, as was the transport of the bombs to the base, planning of the attack itself, the selection of the aircraft and crew, and the actual mission.

befehl ist befehl right?

 

[Dutch]

Dutch, given that the Shroud of Turin is a forgery, why do you want to use it to demonstrate HDD? Synchronicity should mean nothing if one of the two things you're linking together is fake!

Why can't a lie not be a synchronicity?

I have even said that HDDEsign will eventually be stronger than every lie

These are all expressions of consciousness.

 

[Dutch]

To you, perhaps. Not at all to me.

yes I know and almost everybody will agree with you. Doesn't mean you are right

 

[Blue Mountain]

2 times wrong

Truman made the political decission to use nuclear weapons on July 20, 1945

and nothing happened on August 8, 1945, as almost everybody knows.

August 6 and 9, Hirhoshima - Nagasaki

I am wasting my time with you, you need to do better than this if you expect me to continue to answer your replies

That's what I get for posting at 3:00 in the morning because I couldn't get to sleep. I guess I was more tired than I thought.

However, you are wrong when you said "nothing happened on August 8, 1945." True, nothing happened as far as atomic bombs being dropped is concerned, aside from the preparations for the bombing in Nagasaki. But on that date the United States signed the United Nations charter. Does that count for anything?

 

[Blue Mountain]

befehl ist befehl right?

Yes, only following orders. Soldiers following orders is hardly noteworthy.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Its the 5th time in a row that such a thing occurs with this 'Obama security issue' . THIS IS NOT CHERRY- PICKING! the dates are pre-determined.

I note you completely failed to address my point that the date you keyed on was the date the news was reported, not the date on which it happened.

The dates are not predetermined. In fact, by rolling dice I could generate a bunch of totally random dates and declare there will be an "Obama or Biden security issue" on those dates, +/- 1 day, and chances are pretty good there will be a report on (or close to) those dates.