Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

How can you prove that when you exclude other dimensional realms in your research

What other dimensional reams?

 

[Paul]

The ´karmic responsibilities´ for the Srebrenica...

Why do you continue to try and blame everyone for the Srebrenica Massacre?

 

[Blue Mountain]

Obama is a possible expression, but not necessarrily.

This specific spiral is about Srebrenica karma and I expect the events on the given dates that are coming up while shine a light on our responsibilities in relation to the Srebrenica karma.

It could be for instance, that Mladic will be arrested, or shot. Or the Dutch PM at that time will have an ´issue´. The keydates uptill now in relation to the possible US responsibilities found their way via Obama-Hillary ´security issues´, but it could be expressed via other US Precidency expressions aswel. A terror attack in The Netherlands could happen or whatever. Understanding of the patterns should enable us to understand the meaning of the expressions that are coming up on the given dates

(bolding mine)
One problem here is that you keep seeing patterns where others don't. It's not unexpected, because humans by nature are pattern-seeking animals (it's the basis of language and our perception of vision.) We're so good at it, in fact, that we think we can see patterns in random data.

On aspect of this phenomenon is [swiki]pareidolia[/swiki], wherein we see faces in otherwise random data.

In your case, Dutch, this tendency manifests itself in remembering the hits and forgetting the misses. Paul has already detailed all the misses you've racked up on the "911 in Ducth Society" spiral:

• December 3, 2007 - Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor
• July 5, 2008 - Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and there was no security threat to Obama
• August 25, 2007: Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and there was no evidence of a direct threat
• September 25, 2008: Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and Obama's security was never at risk
• October 15, 2008: Miss: Once again, Obama's security was not a risk

One rather impressive hit, and then five misses.

 

[Blue Mountain]

yes, but I can´t repost everything. My ´research´ is posted realtime and develops daily.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

You can´t expect me to give a clear presentation all the time.

A continuing complaint both here and at the BAUT is you seem to have difficulty giving even one clear presentation. A lot of your responses are along the lines of "read up on this on my forum and then you'll understand."

But that doesn't work. First, you're the one making the claim, so you're the one who has to demonstrate it to our satisfaction. So far, your continued refusal to show the basics of what you do is unsatisfactory.

Also, consider the following:

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Do you understand that? Now, if all the explanation I gave was merely to link to page after page of similar SQL statements with the instruction "read these, and then you'll see what I'm doing," you'd be no further ahead. And that's what happens here. You toss around phrases like "phi-encoded timespiral" and "intersection point of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron" without even bothering to define them. Not here, not on BAUT, and not on your site.

Yes I can imagine that but I have to deal with it in the best way I can. This ´research´ is ongoing on a daily basis, I want to post my expectations based on my findings and I haver to monitor reality. Meanwhile I have a normal job to do and I have a family with little kids.
I just can´t afford to stand still for a few months in order to rewrite my findings in order to write coherent summaries. Best way to try to understand this is to keep an eye on the timelines and start from there

At some point (usually pre-determined), a good researcher halts the experiment (even if the halt is temporary) and enters a new phase: collating and analysing the now-frozen dataset. He or she then writes a clear, concise report on the analysis and results, and presents a conclusion.

You're trying to present a conclusion without having done a rigorous analysis. In addition, you ignore the analysis we do, because our conclusions conflict with your dearly held beliefs.

 

[Dutch]

I will respond later, I'm monitoring:

HD Tetrahedron
Oh yes, 'Cuba missile crisis' timeline ( see posts at timeline):
“It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”
McCain retorted Tuesday, Oct. 21: “America does not need a president that needs to be tested. I’ve been tested. I was aboard the Enterprise off the coast of Cuba. I’ve been there.”)
from: US intelligence: Iran will be able to build first nuclear bomb by February 2009
http://www2.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=5660

 

[Paulhoff]

Until I see Dutch really post something that shows something besides cherry-picked news, this will be my last post on this thread.

Paul

 

[Dutch]

Paul,

When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns ingreased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Sebs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible.

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995.

 

[Dutch]

What other dimensional reams?

Michio Kaku:

How would a ‘carp scientist’ explain the 3rd dimension, to his 2 dimensional pond inhabitants?

read 3 as 4 or more, 2 as 3

 

[Dutch]

(bolding mine)
One problem here is that you keep seeing patterns where others don't. It's not unexpected, because humans by nature are pattern-seeking animals (it's the basis of language and our perception of vision.) We're so good at it, in fact, that we think we can see patterns in random data.

On aspect of this phenomenon is [swiki]pareidolia[/swiki], wherein we see faces in otherwise random data.

Thats why I use timelines in order to get a sense of future 'expressions'.

In your case, Dutch, this tendency manifests itself in remembering the hits and forgetting the misses.

I post everything 'realtime' on the HDDesign forum. I never delete something that could be considered a miss, because the correlation often becomes clear afterwards and even could increase the understanding of the hidden underlying Design. You just deny the many hits that are posted. I don't know has this phenomenon is called, other than denial.

Paul has already detailed all the misses you've racked up on the "911 in Ducth Society" spiral:

• December 3, 2007 - Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor
• July 5, 2008 - Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and there was no security threat to Obama
• August 25, 2007: Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and there was no evidence of a direct threat
• September 25, 2008: Miss: the event you posted was outside your ±1 day fudge factor, and Obama's security was never at risk
• October 15, 2008: Miss: Once again, Obama's security was not a risk

One rather impressive hit, and then five misses.

You aren't telling me now that if these events would have happened 1 day earlier or later, you would have accepted it, do you?

The Srebrenica Massacre is 'peaked' on July 11, 1995

Have you any idea how long it takes to seperate thousands boys and men from their families, shoot them to death with a few in a row at the time?

I have said repeatedly that I have limit myself to +/- 1 day when it comes to monitoring and efforts to try to identify possible hidden underlying timecoded patterns. Once a pattern has been identified, the sequencial key dates unveil the hidden underlying connectedness, thats why I use timeframes around the predetermined peakdates. The events that are given are close enough. I differ with your opinion about these specific events being expressions of a 'security issue' in relation to Obama, because I thinkthey are.

I advice you to monitor the given dates that are coming up very closely.

 

[Dutch]

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Thats why I use ' '. What do you think I think what it means than?

A continuing complaint both here and at the BAUT is you seem to have difficulty giving even one clear presentation. A lot of your responses are along the lines of "read up on this on my forum and then you'll understand."

But that doesn't work. First, you're the one making the claim, so you're the one who has to demonstrate it to our satisfaction. So far, your continued refusal to show the basics of what you do is unsatisfactory.

This can only be achieved if one is willing to investigate this material, andI mean serious. There's not single clear answer to explain all this. If that would be possible I would have been on my way to Oslo to accept the nobel price. Our reality is Designed to appear random to us and this supposed hidden underlying Design is only indirectly detectable.

In this case you cannot expect an easy answer where there ís not.

If you only focus on remarks and events on a stand alone basis and you disregard the timing of postings, it becomes impossible to really underfstand what this is about. Thats why I started to you these timeframes in order to give the readers a starting point.

Also on BAUT I have invested my time to give answers on serious requests but you cannot understand this without at least reading it and trying to keep an eye on the timelines in order to see how things develop through time, how possible new timcoded patterns are emerging and how I follow up on these. Personally, I have experienced so many 'in the face' confirmations while working on this concept that I have no doubts about the existence of the hidden underlying Design.

Also, consider the following:

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Do you understand that? Now, if all the explanation I gave was merely to link to page after page of similar SQL statements with the instruction "read these, and then you'll see what I'm doing," you'd be no further ahead. And that's what happens here. You toss around phrases like "phi-encoded timespiral" and "intersection point of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron" without even bothering to define them. Not here, not on BAUT, and not on your site.

Well, the basic elements of HDDesign are described and are really quite simple.

At some point (usually pre-determined), a good researcher halts the experiment (even if the halt is temporary) and enters a new phase: collating and analysing the now-frozen dataset. He or she then writes a clear, concise report on the analysis and results, and presents a conclusion.

I wish I had the time to do so, our near future in relation to the destiny of mankind has my first priority

You're trying to present a conclusion without having done a rigorous analysis. In addition, you ignore the analysis we do, because our conclusions conflict with your dearly held beliefs.

I have never seen a conclusion which made the validity of the HDDesign impossible. I give my expectations based on the elements as described in the HDDesign so people can make up their own mind and draw their own conclusions. Its not my responsibility if people dismiss it.

 

[Paul]

Michio Kaku...

OK let's play quote Dr Kaku:

we stress that there is at present no experimental evidence for higher dimensions
​

 

[Paul]

Thats why I use timelines in order to get a sense of future 'expressions'.

Expressions is a meaningless term which is deliberately vague and has no value until you decide on it, after the fact. It is therefore useless in any practical sense and provides absolutely no probative benefits.

I post everything 'realtime' on the HDDesign forum. I never delete something that could be considered a miss, because the correlation often becomes clear afterwards and even could increase the understanding of the hidden underlying Design.

In other words, as evidenced by the whole security issue & Dutch society nonsense, even if it is wrong you can come back later and change the meaning or call it a weak expression or even claim it obviously points to a completely different set of events.

The Srebrenica Massacre is 'peaked' on July 11, 1995

Why would it peak before the massacre?

 

[Paul]

Thats why I use ' '. What do you think I think what it means than?

You can't just invent your own definition and then use quote marks to claim we should all know what you mean.

This can only be achieved if one is willing to investigate this material, andI mean serious.

Serious investigation is impossible without a usable protocol.

Our reality is Designed to appear random to us and this supposed hidden underlying Design is only indirectly detectable.

That is a clear statement presented as fact, unfortunately you have absolutely no evidence that even suggests such a hypothesis.

In this case you cannot expect an easy answer where there ís not.

If you take out the easy, we would be in agreement.

I have no doubts about the existence of the hidden underlying Design.

You also have no evidence and are unwilling to provide any explanations beyond your opinions, feelings and pareidolia.

Well, the basic elements of HDDesign are described and are really quite simple.

That is your stock disingenuous answer, if you actually took some time to write them down in a concise manner we would at least have a starting point.

I wish I had the time to do so, our near future in relation to the destiny of mankind has my first priority

As you constantly claim no ability to predict, and therefore alter, events, stopping to seriously analyse your data is the only correct option.

I have never seen a conclusion which made the validity of the HDDesign impossible.

That's because you designed it in such a way as to make it unfalsifiable, lending it the appearance of validity to the unquestioning.

I give my expectations based on the elements as described in the HDDesign so people can make up their own mind and draw their own conclusions.

No you don't, you constantly tell us what things mean, how they are related and why it doesn't matter if they they fall outside the parameters you already set.

Its not my responsibility if people dismiss it.

It's your responsibility to listen to why and not to dismiss their criticisms summarily.

 

[Dutch]

OK let's play quote Dr Kaku:

we stress that there is at present no experimental evidence for higher dimensions
​

So?

there's also no experimental evidence that there are no higher dimensions.

I say that we can detect it indirectly

 

[Dutch]

Expressions is a meaningless term which is deliberately vague and has no value until you decide on it, after the fact. It is therefore useless in any practical sense and provides absolutely no probative benefits.

In other words, as evidenced by the whole security issue & Dutch society nonsense, even if it is wrong you can come back later and change the meaning or call it a weak expression or even claim it obviously points to a completely different set of events.

So? ofcourse it looks that the events on this particular spiral are not related to the Srebrenica massacre, the hidden underlying Design shows differently though. Same thing with the 'Cuba crisis timeline' and in fact almost everything posted on the timelines. These events appear unrelated in our reality, but the HDDesign shows the hidden underlying Design, giving it deeper meaning.

Why would it peak before the massacre?

Do you think these people were killed in a blink of an eye?

The Srebrenica massacre is linked to July 11, 1995 but ofcourse this drama took several days to take place back in July 1995. First we had a short armed conflict between the Serbs and Dutch soldiers. In the beginning some tanks were taken out by air support. Later this support was rejected so the Dutch soldiers surrendered. The safe haven Srebrenica fell. Then people were forced to go to Portocari, where the boys and men were seperated from their families. the boys and men were killed by the thousands during the next couple of days.

I hope you understand that it is ridiculous to focus on this +/- 1 day limit that I use. Each determined keydate in relation to this massacre is to be considered a peakdate.

 

[Dutch]

You can't just invent your own definition and then use quote marks to claim we should all know what you mean.

Come on Paul, with 'research' is should be clear that its isn't scientific research. Its pretty normal for me to assume that people know that since I use this term for years in which I have repeatedly stated that this 'research'must not be considered science. I have never claimed to be busy with scientific research, its more a 'psychic excercise' in the beginning but the patterns are based described elements of HDDesign

Serious investigation is impossible without a usable protocol.

So what would be a usable protocol, considering the fact that these intelligent correlation emerge from outside our 'scientific' 3D reality?

That is a clear statement presented as fact, unfortunately you have absolutely no evidence that even suggests such a hypothesis.

Its my objective to show validity by the use of the timelines, over an extended period of time. I'm aware of the fact that it could take years for some to change their perspective on these matters and start to understand the validity of this concept.

If you take out the easy, we would be in agreement.

you see, your quote becomes meaningless when you continue to talk about this stuff in oneliners

You also have no evidence and are unwilling to provide any explanations beyond your opinions, feelings and pareidolia.

to the best that I can, I assure you.

That is your stock disingenuous answer, if you actually took some time to write them down in a concise manner we would at least have a starting point.

You have to take it as it comes, I see no other way to deal with this as I'm doing now. Most important thing seems to be to focus on the times to come and to try to get a sense for what is coming. That's the only way to incerease our understanding of reality.

the rest of your comments lost their coherence for me. Please stop splitting everything in oneliners

 

[Paul]

So?

Exactly, sometimes it appears that you are being deliberately obtuse.

I say that we can detect it indirectly

That's all very well, but it's not very scientific or helpful is it? If you're going to make claims that people of Dr. Kaku's caliber can't substantiate, you'd better have more than "I say".

 

[Paul]

So? ofcourse it looks that the events on this particular spiral are not related to the Srebrenica massacre

Well, if it quacks like le canard noir...

the hidden underlying Design shows differently though.

It shows you differently, but as you can't satisfactorily explain how, it does nothing for us.

These events appear unrelated in our reality, but the HDDesign shows the hidden underlying Design, giving it deeper meaning.

Have you ever considered that there is a perfectly simple reason why they appear unrelated?

Do you think these people were killed in a blink of an eye?

The issue is that every time someone points out a problem you change the rules; apparently it is OK that your Srebrenica massacre date is outside your margin because it is a peak, even though the peak for this important event comes before the event itself, putting the massacre itself on the subsiding slope.

I may address this issue in a separate post, but Srebrenica is something you seem to be particularly passionate about and it means that every time you post we are subjected to another over-simplified history lesson with free appeal-to-emotion thrown in.

I hope you understand that it is ridiculous to focus on this +/- 1 day limit that I use.

It's relevant because you imposed it, apparently arbitrarily, on the system.

 

[Paul]

Come on Paul, with 'research' is should be clear that its isn't scientific research.

Why should it be clear? You keep making pseudoscientific claims about dimensions and geometry and mathematics.

So what would be a usable protocol, considering the fact that these intelligent correlation emerge from outside our 'scientific' 3D reality?

You're the one proposing HDDesign, are you saying you can't codify it?

to the best that I can, I assure you.

I sincerely hope that is not true.

You have to take it as it comes, I see no other way to deal with this as I'm doing now.

You could do what has been requested numerous times by different people and explain the basic tenets and methods of your system.

Most important thing seems to be to focus on the times to come and to try to get a sense for what is coming. That's the only way to incerease our understanding of reality.

You don't seem to understand that it's not helping with our understanding of reality; you focus on the future by waiting until it is the past and then reinterpreting it in line with your own rules and expected results.

the rest of your comments lost their coherence for me.

That would appear to be untrue and merely an excuse to avoid addressing the issues.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Hi Dutch,

Rather than dissect your last few posts in great detail, I'll try to highlight a few point and make some comments.

When Pim Fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

There's no doubt Fortuyn played a major role in Dutch politics. But is your contention that he might have been prime minster that true? I'll admit all I have to go on is Pim Fortyn's wikipedia entry, and the English one at that. But there I read:

The LPF went on to win an unprecedented debut in the lower house of parliament, winning 26 seats (17% of the 150 seats in the house). However, after the elections the following year, this figure dropped to eight seats, and after the 2006 elections the party had no seats left in the parliament. ... On the other hand, others speculate that Fortuyn's perceived martyrdom may have played into the hands of the LPF.

How would he become prime minister with only 17% of the seats? Or could he have made prime minister in a coalition government?

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

Why is the number 911 important to HDD?

Separate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Can you provide a link to this spiral on your forum, please?

Thats why I use timelines in order to get a sense of future 'expressions'.

I post everything 'realtime' on the HDDesign forum. I never delete something that could be considered a miss, because the correlation often becomes clear afterwards and even could increase the understanding of the hidden underlying Design. You just deny the many hits that are posted. I don't know has this phenomenon is called, other than denial.

Actually, we've used these terms many times to describe it: cherry-picking, data mining, and remembering the hits and forgetting the misses.

You aren't telling me now that if these events would have happened 1 day earlier or later, you would have accepted it, do you?

Not at all. But had significant events occurred on the days you listed (+/- 1 day), that may have been a something worth investigating. The fact you had to go outside even that generous scope shows that you're really stretching things. There's also the fact it's difficult to define "significant", especially in today's world with its 24-hour news stations.

The Srebrenica Massacre is 'peaked' on July 11, 1995

Please define "peaked" in this context. Why is July 11, 1995 so important in the events surrounding this massacre?

That's why I use ' '. What do you think I think what it means than?

I think you're confusing an endless chasing after details with research. Research involves more than the gathering of data: it also involves a hypothesis (you have that - HDD), a certain amount of organization (which you seem to lack), and a willingness to accept a negative conclusion (which you most certainly are not willing to do.) Indeed, I think the reason you're so obsessed with following the timelines is because you keep getting misses and have to look even further to find a few hits.

Well, the basic elements of HDDesign are described and are really quite simple.

OK, good. Is there something like a "Hyper Dimensional Design for Dummies" page on your site? In case you're not familiar with the reference, the "for Dummies" series is a collection of books on various topics, usually computer related but they do branch into other areas. They start from the assumption that the reader has no prior experience with the topic, and go from there.

I wish I had the time to do so, our near future in relation to the destiny of mankind has my first priority

Actually, Dutch, mankind's destiny is completely unaffected by HDDesign. In that way it's like astrology and homeopathy: interesting to study, but of no impact.

It's my objective to show validity by the use of the timelines, over an extended period of time. I'm aware of the fact that it could take years for some to change their perspective on these matters and start to understand the validity of this concept.

I can see why you're trying to take a longer term approach to this. However, as we have pointed out many times, we're not even convinced there is an effect worth studying. A case in point is where you summarily linked the "911 in Dutch Society" timeline with the US Presidential election. Your opinion is that this reveals hidden themes, which in turn reveals an underlying Design. Our opinion is a combination of non sequitur ("it does not follow") and Occam's Razor. The most straightforward explanation is there is no relation, thus there is no need to invoke a magical entity attempt to explain such a link.

Marswatch: Continue watching this space for exciting news from Mars over the next two months. The dates to keep an eye on are October 26, November 6, and November 15. Further dates to follow as soon as we can come up with an arithmetical way of determining them.