Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

911​

1474,029​

1822​

2037,058​

2169,971​

2252,116​

2302,884​

2334,261​

2353,652​

2365,637​

2373,044​

2377,622​

2380,451​

2382,2​

2383,28​

2383,948​

2384,361​

2384,616​

2384,774​

2384,871​

2384,932​

2384,969​

2384,992​

2385,006​

2385,015​

2385,02​

2385,024​

2385,026​

2385,027​

2385,028​

2385,028​

2385,028​

2385,029​

 

[Dutch]

You are making an error Blue,,

July 4, 2004 + 2385 days gives January 14, 2011

check your calculations

 

[Dutch]

I'm not talking in oneliners Paul,

if you want a serious answer, than ask a serious question. You will gat an answer

 

[Paulhoff]

Dutch will not understand this, that is to bad.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html

Paul

 

[Paul]

You are making an error Blue,,

July 4, 2004 + 2385 days gives January 14, 2011

check your calculations

Try checking your dates, Dutch, comet impact was 4 July 2005 and earth flyby 31 December 2007.

Anything to say?

 

[Paul]

I'm not talking in oneliners Paul,

if you want a serious answer, than ask a serious question. You will gat an answer

Ok, apart from all the other serious question which you refuse to answer, let's try something really simple:

Take the following fixed values -

Phi=1.6180
point 1=4 July 2005 05:44:36
point 2=31 December 2007 19:29:20
​

convert the dates to decimal and do the calculations, this is the result

event|Date UTC|offset|Excel/PC Serial Date 1|4 July 2005 05:44:36|0.000000|38537.239306

2|31 December 2007 19:29:20|910.572700|39447.812037
3|16 July 2009 14:07:46|562.776700|40010.588737
4|29 June 2010 09:52:05|347.822435|40358.411172
5|30 January 2011 09:09:45|214.970603|40573.381774
6|12 June 2011 05:50:56|132.861930|40706.243704
7|02 September 2011 08:36:24|82.114913|40788.358617

8|23 October 2011 02:37:40|50.750874|40839.109491

9|23 November 2011 11:25:19|31.366424|40870.475915
10|12 December 2011 20:41:02|19.385923|40889.861838
11|24 December 2011 20:14:16|11.981411|40901.843249
12|01 January 2012 05:57:35|7.405075|40909.248324
13|05 January 2012 19:48:00|4.576684|40913.825008
14|08 January 2012 15:41:12|2.828606|40916.653613
15|10 January 2012 09:38:37|1.748211|40918.401825
16|11 January 2012 11:34:30|1.080477|40919.482301
17|12 January 2012 03:36:07|0.667785|40920.150087​

18|12 January 2012 13:30:26|0.412723|40920.562809 19|12 January 2012 19:37:45|0.255082|40920.817891

Why don't your numbers match?

That is the question, it is simple, straightforward and serious.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Paul, there may be an error in your table there. It was a good idea to start the clock at 4 July 2005 05:44:36 UTC, but why did you add 910.572700 days to that time instead of 911, as Dutch did?

 

[Blue Mountain]

Because you are rounding to a full day and than adding the next step.

You should calculate from the start of the spiral for each hit, this way you can avoid the differences caused by rounding

The full spiral is 2385 days, if you add your step you come to 2383,28 ( because you stopped too soon).

add your steps first and calculate from the beginning

Yes, I was adding (phi_derived_value * full days), which resets the clock to midnight at every step. I've tuned the program instead to add (phi_derived_value * 86400 seconds), which preserves the seconds at every step.

The spiral now looks like this:

Event | +Days | Date UTC | Descriptive Date
1|START|2005-07-04 05:44:36 |Monday 4 July 2005
2|911.000000000|2008-01-01 05:44:36|Tuesday 1 January 2008
3|563.028963316|2009-07-17 06:26:18|Friday 17 July 2009
4|347.971035711|2010-06-30 05:44:35|Wednesday 30 June 2010
5|215.057927004|2011-01-31 07:07:59|Monday 31 January 2011
6|132.913108336|2011-06-13 05:02:51|Monday 13 June 2011
7| 82.144818438|2011-09-03 08:31:23|Saturday 3 September 2011
8| 50.768289755|2011-10-24 02:57:43|Monday 24 October 2011
9| 31.376528595|2011-11-24 11:59:55|Thursday 24 November 2011
10| 19.391761106|2011-12-13 21:24:03|Tuesday 13 December 2011
11| 11.984767456|2011-12-25 21:02:06|Sunday 25 December 2011
12| 7.406993629|2012-01-02 06:48:10|Monday 2 January 2012
13| 4.577773814|2012-01-06 20:40:09|Friday 6 January 2012
14| 2.829219808|2012-01-09 16:34:13|Monday 9 January 2012
15| 1.748554001|2012-01-11 10:32:08|Wednesday 11 January 2012
16| 1.080665803|2012-01-12 12:28:17|Thursday 12 January 2012
17| 0.667888196|2012-01-13 04:30:02|Friday 13 January 2012
18| 0.412777606|2012-01-13 14:24:25|Friday 13 January 2012
19| 0.255110590|2012-01-13 20:31:46|Friday 13 January 2012
20| 0.157667015|2012-01-14 00:18:48|Saturday 14 January 2012
21| 0.097443574|2012-01-14 02:39:07|Saturday 14 January 2012
22| 0.060223441|2012-01-14 04:05:50|Saturday 14 January 2012
23| 0.037220133|2012-01-14 04:59:25|Saturday 14 January 2012
24| 0.023003307|2012-01-14 05:32:32|Saturday 14 January 2012
25| 0.014216826|2012-01-14 05:53:00|Saturday 14 January 2012
26| 0.008786482|2012-01-14 06:05:39|Saturday 14 January 2012
27| 0.005430344|2012-01-14 06:13:28|Saturday 14 January 2012
28| 0.003356137|2012-01-14 06:18:17|Saturday 14 January 2012
29| 0.002074207|2012-01-14 06:21:16|Saturday 14 January 2012
30| 0.001281930|2012-01-14 06:23:06|Saturday 14 January 2012
31| 0.000792277|2012-01-14 06:24:14|Saturday 14 January 2012
32| 0.000489654|2012-01-14 06:24:56|Saturday 14 January 2012
33| 0.000302623|2012-01-14 06:25:22|Saturday 14 January 2012

A question for you, Dutch. Why did I have to do this myself? Why did you not post such a table the first time you were asked for one?

Again, if you want people to take you seriously, you have to be prepared to present information to them in a meaningful and easy to understand fashion.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Looking at the table above, one thing immediately jumps out at me.

Given the "wiggle room" of +/- 1 day, anything significant happening in the last 10 days of the spiral can be considered a "hit".

Starting at #13 (January 6, 2012), we can have events happening on January 5, 6, and 7 declared as being on the spiral. The next event is January 9, so that means a hit on January 8, 9, or 10 can also be considered to be on the spiral. After that, the dates overlap all the way to the end.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Dutch will not understand this, that is to bad.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html

Paul

Thanks for posting that link - it made opening this thread worthwhile.

 

[Paul]

Paul, there may be an error in your table there. It was a good idea to start the clock at 4 July 2005 05:44:36 UTC, but why did you add 910.572700 days to that time instead of 911, as Dutch did?

I'm glad someone noticed

What I thought I'd do, was to use the precision Dutch claims to use for Phi initially, for the whole calculation. I found the precise times for Dutch's two initiating events and went from there.

The differences with our tables shows the obvious confirmation bias used with HDDesign; move the flyby forward a day and use whole days and voilà, 911 magically appears

 

[Dutch]

The Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe at macrolevel orientation is open, I will be monitoring.
posted last Friday September 26 as underlying theme based on triggerevents for the current timeframe:

Russian leadership / independance Georgia
1958 - Nikita Khrushchev becomes Premier of the Soviet Union.
1985 - Mikhail Gorbachev becomes the Soviet Union's leader.
1801 - Paul I of Russia is assassinated, leading the way for his son Alexander I to accede the throne
1991 - Georgian independence referendum, 1991: nearly 99 percent of the voters support the country's independence from the Soviet Union.
1991 - Georgia declares its independence from the Soviet Union.

EU monitors begin Georgia mission
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7643612.stm
Russia steadfast as EU begins Georgia misson
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/10/01/georgia.monitors.russia.ap/index.html
after 17 years, Mikhail Gorbachev returns to Russian politics, in Dutch:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2069105/__Gorbatsjov_keert_terug__.html?p=26,1
Mikhail Gorbachev returns to Russian politics
Mikhail Gorbachev has announced he is making an unlikely political comeback almost 17 years after stepping down as the Soviet Union's last leader.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...il-Gorbachev-returns-to-Russian-politics.html
Russia's last tsar rehabilitated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7645776.stm
I will post updates after the current timeframe
and I will also answer the questions above

 

[Dutch]

Try checking your dates, Dutch, comet impact was 4 July 2005 and earth flyby 31 December 2007.

Anything to say?

That's 911 +/- 1 day from 'Deep Impact'. All dates are +/- 1 day, I have explained that several times

 

[Dutch]

A question for you, Dutch. Why did I have to do this myself? Why did you not post such a table the first time you were asked for one?

Again, if you want people to take you seriously, you have to be prepared to present information to them in a meaningful and easy to understand fashion.

I gave a description exactly explaining this, apparently you didn't understand. After that I tried to post the calculations but I had to delete the content of the post because the numbers showed up in one big sequence on the forum.

I have to add that you will not find errors in the calculations that I use, based on the given and described elements of HDDesign. Not here, not in the 'raw material'on HDDesign or anywhere else I have posted about this HDDesign.

 

[Dutch]

Looking at the table above, one thing immediately jumps out at me.

Given the "wiggle room" of +/- 1 day, anything significant happening in the last 10 days of the spiral can be considered a "hit".

Starting at #13 (January 6, 2012), we can have events happening on January 5, 6, and 7 declared as being on the spiral. The next event is January 9, so that means a hit on January 8, 9, or 10 can also be considered to be on the spiral. After that, the dates overlap all the way to the end.

That's correct,

In case of the monitored 911 based Phi spiral Fortuyn-Van Gogh, which is in fact about 'Srebrenica karma', it means that I indeed consider the last 2 weeks of the spiral as a frame.

I already gave the dates:

October 15
October 27
expiring during the period from aprox November 2, 2008 ( Van Gogh trigger event) until around Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macro level:
November 15

 

[Dutch]

I'm glad someone noticed

What I thought I'd do, was to use the precision Dutch claims to use for Phi initially, for the whole calculation. I found the precise times for Dutch's two initiating events and went from there.

The differences with our tables shows the obvious confirmation bias used with HDDesign; move the flyby forward a day and use whole days and voilà, 911 magically appears

No Paul,

The spiral is calculated as a whole, the keydates 'give opportunity' for expression on the +/- 1 day timeframe of the calculated dates on the spiral.

 

[Paul]

That's 911 +/- 1 day from 'Deep Impact'. All dates are +/- 1 day, I have explained that several times

No, you claim the 911 connection because you said that the flyby was January 1^st, making 911 if accuracy isn't much of a concern.

As the flyby was on December 31^st, and the spiral starts with two known dates, your magic connection should be 910 days; you can't say it's 910 but I can add my margin of error to any fixed date to make it significant. Why does the universe need such a vast margin of error?

If you want to use Phi to several decimal places, you should use the same accuracy for your other calculations. When you have a very accurate starting point, your own system gives you very accurate dates on the spiral, not using them would seem open to misinterpretation.

 

[Paul]

I have to add that you will not find errors in the calculations that I use, based on the given and described elements of HDDesign. Not here, not in the 'raw material'on HDDesign or anywhere else I have posted about this HDDesign.

What date was deep impact?

 

[Paul]

The Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe at macrolevel orientation is open

While you're apparently in the mood to answer questions, what, exactly, is a Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe at macrolevel orientation?

No links, no references to your forums, please supply a concise explanation of the terms used as you understand them.

 

[sts60]

"stay out of space" and "don't mess" with nuclear power seem to be , at least to me, the 2 major recurring underlying themes of the Design of our current times. I have been saying that for years now.

What about all the successful missions, or all the nuclear reactors that aren't leaking, malfunctioning or melting down?

And what if we combine these "two major themes"? Surely space nuclear power would have a dismal record according to hypergibble...

Nuclear generators and heat sources launched by the United States 

Launch   Mission        Mission Type       Generators   Result
1961     Transit 4A     Navigational       1 RTG        Success
1961     Transit 4B     Navigational       1 RTG        Success
1963     Transit 5BN-1  Navigational       1 RTG        Success
1963     Transit 5BN-2  Navigational       1 RTG        Success
1964     Transit 5BN-3a Navigational       1 RTG        LV failure (1)
1965     Snapshot       Development Test   1 Reactor    Limited run (2)
1968     Nimbus B-1b    Meteorology        2 RTGs       LV failure (3)
1969     Nimbus III     Meteorological     2 RTGs       Success
1969     Apollo 11      Lunar Surface      2 RHUs       Success
1969     Apollo 12      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        Success
1970     Apollo 13      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        SM failure (4)
1971     Apollo 14      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        Success
1971     Apollo 15      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        Success
1972     Pioneer 10     Outer Planets      4 RTGs       Success
1972     Apollo 16      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        Success
1972     Triad          Navigational       1 RTG        Success
1972     Apollo 17      Lunar Surface      1 RTG        Success
1973     Pioneer 11     Outer Planets      4 RTGs       Success
1975     Viking 1       Mars Lander        2 RTGs       Success
1975     Viking 2       Mars Lander        2 RTGs       Success
1976     LES-8          Communications     2 RTGs       Success(5)
         LES-9          Communications     2 RTGs       Success(5)
1977     Voyager 2      Outer Planets      3 RTGs       Success*
1977     Voyager 1      Outer Planets      3 RTGs       Success*
1989     Galileo        Jupiter System     2 RTGs       Success
                                           101 RHUs     
1990     Ulysses        Solar Polar        1 RTG        Success
1996     Sojourner      Mars Rover         3 RHUs       Success
1997     Cassini        Saturn System      3 RTGs       Success*
                                           82 RHUs 
         Huygens        Titan Lander       35 RHUs      Success
2003     Spirit         Mars Rover         8 RHUs       Success*
2003     Opportunity    Mars Rover         8 RHUs       Success*  
2006     New Horizons   Pluto/Kuiper Belt  1 RTG        Success*

RTG = radioisotope thermoelectric generator (provides electrical power and heat)
RHU = radioisotope heater unit (provides heat only)

(1) Launch vehicle failed; heat source [b]worked as designed[/b] (dispersal)
(2) Launch vehicle failed; heat source [b]worked as designed[/b] (intact retrieval, fuel reused)
(3) Reactor [b]operated as designed[/b], shut down automatically after 43 days due to unrelated spacecraft failure
(4) Service Module failed; heat source [b]worked as designed[/b] (intact burial)
(5) I think these may still be operating.
* = Ongoing mission