Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

I have put the desintegration of MIR on the timeline for September 30 +/- 1 day and it appears now that 'Jules Verne' will desintegrate next monday........

You mean tomorrow, September 29^th.

In case you haven't noticed, both events were entirely deliberate and calculated precisely to bring the craft to re-entry above the pacific ocean; not an accident, not particularly dangerous, and nothing to do with the dangers of space-flight, nuclear energy or the positions of other astronomical bodies.

What do you need to open up your rigid mind?

If my mind was rigid or closed as you imply, I wouldn't continue asking you questions in the seemingly vain hope that you might either explain or critically assess your ideas.

 

[Dutch]

Paul, on September 18 I wrote here on this forum:

The fire on the MIR was only a small fire and this Hubble anomaly doesn't seem significant at the moment either, but there's more.

Today I gave it another look. The Mir desintegrated in Earth's atmosphere on reentry on March 23, 2001.

Again with the end of MIR we see a 911 based correlation with September 15, 2008

March 23, 2001 - September 15, 2008 = 2.733 days
or 3 times 911 = 2.733

ongoing 911 based pattern, connected by Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons.

I think that the underlying themes on this emerging underlying timecoded pattern are in fact about an expected event in space with a manmade object, in a sense that it would express the 'stay out of space' theme.

As it seems related to 'Deep impact' aswell ( coinciding on the patterns ), I wil keep a look on these patterns very closely.I will put the future keydates on the timelines.

First 'Deep Impact' date coming up is September 20, 2008

Another date to keep in mind is September 30, 2008

Mars is closely related to 9/11 and the HDTetrahedron in the HDDesign concept.

On September 30, 2008 Mars will be on te same relative position on its orbit as during the desintegration of MIR.

Also keep in mind that 'MIR' means 'PEACE'

as above, so below

All dates that are put on the timelines are +/- 1 day.

So on September 18 already I had identified this desintegration of spacestation MIR as underlying theme for September 30 +/- 1 day.

and as a 'coincidence' we have indeed a real reentry of a spacecraft on September 29!

Doesn't that make you think?

 

[Paul]

Paul, on September 18 I wrote here on this forum: ...snipped... Doesn't that make you think?

It makes me think that you constantly refuse to answer questions, confront criticisms, or engage in any meaningful discussion about anything you write.

 

[Dutch]

That means it didn't make you think?

 

[Paulhoff]

That means it didn't make you think?

Oh, we think, it is that you don't tell us anything other than posting news.

Paul

 

[Paul]

That means it didn't make you think?

Did you notice this part?

you constantly refuse to answer questions, confront criticisms, or engage in any meaningful discussion about anything you write

In case you are confused, that was a question.

 

[Paul]

Dutch, how's the space watching going?

Anything of any significance to your themes happened today?

Europe's "Jules Verne" space freighter has destroyed itself in a controlled burn-up over the southern Pacific.

 

[Paulhoff]

Dutch, how's the space watching going?

Anything of any significance to your themes happened today?

Originally Posted by BBC News site
Europe's "Jules Verne" space freighter has destroyed itself in a controlled burn-up over the southern Pacific.

Damn Mercury, damn damn damn.

Paul

 

[Dutch]

That really is an expected 'desintegration of MIR' event with this desintegration of a manmade object from space

You guys don't seem to be surprised. Just a coincidence, lucky guess or cherry picking from all todays desintegrations on reentry?

 

[Paulhoff]

That really is an expected 'desintegration of MIR' event with this desintegration of a manmade object from space

You guys don't seem to be surprised. Just a coincidence, lucky guess or cherry picking from all todays desintegrations on reentry?

You are our hero in cherry picking of news.

Paul

 

[Paul]

That really is an expected 'desintegration of MIR' event with this desintegration of a manmade object from space

Now, I know this is tricky because you might have to do some research, but, according to NASA, how many pieces of orbital debris >10cm are currently being tracked?



I'll give you a clue, it's a little bit more than 1.

 

[Paulhoff]

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html

Paul

 

[Blue Mountain]

That really is an expected 'desintegration of MIR' event with this desintegration of a manmade object from space

You guys don't seem to be surprised. Just a coincidence, lucky guess or cherry picking from all todays desintegrations on reentry?

Dutch, the golden mean timecoded spiral you put this on is tagged with the theme of "stay out of space" (your words). However, both the disintegration of Mir and the re-entry of the Jules Verne were both planned and went off without a hitch. Neither of these events supports the conclusion you're attempting to draw.

The failed missions to Mars would be better fodder for such a spiral.

 

[Blue Mountain]

That's a nice example, but I would choose a July 4 in another year

Deep Impact happened on July 4, 2005,

911 days later there was an actual Earth fly by on January 1, 2008

next date will 911 / 1.61803399 = 563 days later on July 17, 2009.

That date will be mentioned on the timeline for Q3 2009 with 'Deep Impact' as underlying theme

next date will be 911+ 911/1.61803399 +911/1.61803399/1.61803399= 1822 days after the start= June 30, 2010

That date will also be on the future timeline as it makes an 911 based control timeframe around January 1, 2008 with an actual Earth fly by of spacecraft Deep Impact, the starttriggerdate July 4 2005 with Deep Impact on comet Temple I ( 911 days ) and endtriggerdate around June 30, 2010

you can go on like this until the end of the spiral around January 14, 2012.

Hi Dutch,

I spent a few minutes and wrote a program to compute the spiral you described above.

Problem is, according to my calculations, it should end nearly ten days earlier, on January 5, 2011:

+Days | Date | Descriptive Date
START|2004-07-04|Sunday 4 July 2004
+ 911.00 =|2007-01-01|Monday 1 January 2007
+ 563.03 =|2008-07-17|Thursday 17 July 2008
+ 347.97 =|2009-06-29|Monday 29 June 2009
+ 215.06 =|2010-01-30|Saturday 30 January 2010
+ 132.91 =|2010-06-11|Friday 11 June 2010
+ 82.14 =|2010-09-01|Wednesday 1 September 2010
+ 50.77 =|2010-10-21|Thursday 21 October 2010
+ 31.38 =|2010-11-21|Sunday 21 November 2010
+ 19.39 =|2010-12-10|Friday 10 December 2010
+ 11.98 =|2010-12-21|Tuesday 21 December 2010
+ 7.41 =|2010-12-28|Tuesday 28 December 2010
+ 4.58 =|2011-01-01|Saturday 1 January 2011
+ 2.83 =|2011-01-03|Monday 3 January 2011
+ 1.75 =|2011-01-04|Tuesday 4 January 2011
+ 1.08 =|2011-01-05|Wednesday 5 January 2011

Why do our numbers differ?

 

[Dutch]

later Blue,

Paulhof:

here's another cherry pick from all incidents with the Hubble on September 30.........

"As it seems related to 'Deep impact' aswell ( coinciding on the patterns ), I wil keep a look on these patterns very closely.I will put the future keydates on the timelines.
First 'Deep Impact' date coming up is September 20, 2008 ( LHC / see timeline Q3 2008 for details )
Another date to keep in mind is September 30, 2008
Mars is closely related to 9/11 and the HDTetrahedron in the HDDesign concept.
On September 30, 2008 Mars will be on te same relative position on its orbit as during the desintegration of MIR.
Also keep in mind that 'MIR' means 'PEACE'
as above, so below"
and I have put it on the timeline on September 18:
"new date added and September 20 updated with same theme:
September 30, 2008 - 'Deep Impact', keep an eye on Hubble - ISS, or other manmade objects in space - MIR 'Peace' deintegrated, as above so below
Mars at same relative position as during desintegretion of MIR"
from the timeline:
September 29:
desintegration of 'MIR'revisited:
Europe's "space truck" heads for Pacific breakup
Scientists have earmarked a remote area of the South Pacific where bits of Europe's massive space freighter may crash when the orbiting craft is destroyed in a suicide plunge on Monday, an official said on Friday.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Europes_space_truck_heads_for_Pacific_breakup_999.html

"Mir was much bigger, but the principle is the same."

Freighter to end life in fireball
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7639548.stm
'Deep Impact' below:
Dow suffers biggest point drop ever
U.S. lawmakers reject bailout plan
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/09/29/us.congress.bailout.deal/index.html
I asked to keep an eye on Hubble for September 30:
September 30, 2008:
Hubble glitch delays shuttle trip
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7642988.stm
A shuttle mission to service the Hubble telescope will be delayed because of a malfunction on the observatory.

 

[Dutch]

Why do our numbers differ?

Because you are rounding to a full day and than adding the next step.

You should calculate from the start of the spiral for each hit, this way you can avoid the differences caused by rounding

The full spiral is 2385 days, if you add your step you come to 2383,28 ( because you stopped too soon).

add your steps first and calculate from the beginning

 

[Dutch]

Dutch, the golden mean timecoded spiral you put this on is tagged with the theme of "stay out of space" (your words). However, both the disintegration of Mir and the re-entry of the Jules Verne were both planned and went off without a hitch. Neither of these events supports the conclusion you're attempting to draw.

The failed missions to Mars would be better fodder for such a spiral.

"stay out of space" and "don't mess" with nuclear power seem to be , at least to me, the 2 major recurring underlying themes of the Design of our current times. I have been saying that for years now.
The fact that both MIR and Jules Verne reentered and desintegrated on specific moments in our perception of time that are intelligently connected based on the described elements of HDDesign, means that these events occurred on a Designed moment in our perception of time. What it really means is something else and should be seen into perspective of the event that already have occured and that will occur in the future.
I didn't drew any conclusion, only that i expected a related events to this desintegration of MIR.
These patttern will continue and will be monitored, so we could undersstand what this is really about. I expect future developments with the ISS on these patterns and it wouldn't surprise me that the ISS will eventually come down and that the timeframe can be predetermined.
The spaceshuttle disasters, Mars exploration and Deeep Impact for instance, are also expressions of the same hidden underlying themes and will pop up again on the patterns

 

[Paul]

"stay out of space" and "don't mess" with nuclear power seem to be , at least to me, the 2 major recurring underlying themes of the Design of our current times.

Ah, very perceptive of you, it's just that you might want to take a look at war, hunger, poverty, politics, fundamentalism or health first.

I have been saying that for years now.

That's nice for you, it doesn't mean anything though.

MIR and Jules Verne reentered and desintegrated on specific moments in our perception of time

So far so good, if a little weirdly described.

that are intelligently connected based on the described elements of HDDesign, means that these events occurred on a Designed moment in our perception of time.

OK, now you're just being silly.

What it really means is something else and should be seen into perspective of the event that already have occured and that will occur in the future.

Really, from the perspective of things that haven't happened yet, and won't happen until you notice them on the 'net?

Also, what's this mysterious something else that they mean? If you know what it is, just say, otherwise it looks like you are trying to either sound important or build even more manoeuvring room into your scheme.

I didn't drew any conclusion, only that i expected a related events to this desintegration of MIR.

Yes you did; you drew conclusions about the importance of the event, it's relationship to other events and it's position in your overall grand scheme.

The spaceshuttle disasters, Mars exploration and Deeep Impact for instance, are also expressions of the same hidden underlying themes and will pop up again on the patterns

What about all the successful missions, or all the nuclear reactors that aren't leaking, malfunctioning or melting down?

 

[Blue Mountain]

Because you are rounding to a full day and than adding the next step.

You should calculate from the start of the spiral for each hit, this way you can avoid the differences caused by rounding

The full spiral is 2385 days, if you add your step you come to 2383,28 ( because you stopped too soon).

add your steps first and calculate from the beginning

Hi Dutch,

I'm quite familiar with doing date and time calculations on computers. I'll re-check my numbers, but I don't think there's any rounding in there whatsoever. The perl DateTime module works with granularities down to the nanosecond.

Dutch, once more please remember the 'E' in JREF. Show us your work. Please show how you compute the complete spiral. You should be very detailed for the first four steps at minimum. After that you can simply list the date, the number of days to add, and the new date, until the end of the spiral.

All your work is worth nothing if other people are unable to replicate your methods and results. That's why I really want to see from you a complete spiral from beginning to end, in a fashion similar to what I posted above.

(I'm posting this in the early morning before heading off to work. I'll repost the table above in about 12 hours time, giving dates and times down to the second.)

 

[Dutch]

911


563,0289633


347,9710357


215,057927


132,9131083


82,14481844


50,76828976


31,3765286


19,39176111


11,98476746


7,406993629


4,577773814


2,829219808


1,748554001


1,080665803


0,667888196


0,412777606


0,25511059


0,157667015


0,097443574


0,060223441


0,037220133


0,023003307


0,014216826


0,008786482


0,005430344


0,003356137


0,002074207


0,00128193


0,000792277


0,000489654


0,000302623


0,000187031​

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