Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

I mean the 'raw material'on the HDDesign forum, posted 'realtime' during the last couple of years. not this thread only with some crosspostings.

You want me to look through 6861 articles before I can understand?

fine, but you have to read first, otherwise I have to start from scratch.

Of course you have to start from scratch, that's how you tell people about new things. Your ideas are new to most people, therefore you need to explain the basic principles behind them; without a basis from which to work, no one can research your ideas independently.

You must understand that my 'research' is ongoing, that the theories are in development every day

Great, you have theories, let's see them so we have something to work with.

 

[Paul]

everybody disagrees with this initially, even I did.I changed my mind when all these coincidences started to emerge while working with this material.

Even you are using the word coincidence now.

If you seriously investigate this, you will change your mind.

No, I won't. Several of us have pointed out inaccuracies, misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and misrepresentations in your work, yet, despite constantly urging research, you never address these criticisms.

Once the pattern is identified, additional 'tuning' can narrow it down.

If you begin with such precise numbers and such a vast margin of allowable error, why should tuning be required.

The people we have chosen as our leaders decided that the life of a platoon Dutch soldiers is more important than the life of 8000 muslim men and boys.

Or perhaps they took the threat to shell 20-30000 civilians seriously. Don't try to oversimplify this just to make points with your theories.

We didn't care less.

There you go again, why are you obsessed with this particular war crime and laying the blame with the largely powerless civilian population of the entire planet?

You didn't threw a fatman on Hirhoshima either, but you still have to deal with the karmic consequences. You are here to learn

If you want to espouse some quasi philosophy and quasi spirituality, that's fine, no need to try and dress it up in pseudoscience and hectoring.

That's exactly how blind we are: there were soldiers overthere to protect these people, it was a UN safe haven.

Not many soldiers without much equipment in a large area.

Airsupport was asked but refused.

Initially that looks like combinations of incompetence, weather, and Serbian threats against civilians and troops.

Its about the choices we make, we could have prevented this biggest massacre in Europe after WWII but we decided NOT to do so.

Again you oversimplify a very complex situation.

since you are to lazy to read that in the given thread

You really know how to encourage people don't you?

I will look it up for you that this very same pattern showed more of these issues related to Obama .The signifigance should become clear for you, I hope

Well, your timeline Q3, 2008 Jul - Aug - Sep thread lists only 2 incidents, neither of which constitute a security issue for Obama:

1. Omhari Sengstacke - "Secret Service's view that Sengstacke never constituted a threat." U.S. Secret Service spokesman Malcolm Wiley
2. George Fox University - Racist idiot at small Christian university, Obama in Florida at the time.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Blue Mountain,

I calculate like this:

start: +911 days
911 / 1.61803399 = outcome X = events day ( +/- 1 day )
911 + outcome X + (outcome X / 1.61803399) = next eventsday (+/- 1 day ) as calculated from the start of the spiral

and so on

All right, I think I'm following you here. Assume two significant events occur 911 days apart: the first one on July 4, 2001 and the next on January 1, 2004. Assuming I've read your above post correctly, the next two significant dates on the spiral are as follows:

January 1, 2004 + (911/1.61803399) = 2004-01-01 + 563 days = July 17, 2005 (+/- 1 day)
July 17, 2005 + (563/1.61803399) = 2005-07-17 + 347 days = June 29, 2006 (+/- 1 day)

Am I correct? Can you show me, please, the next three dates on the spiral? (Remember the "E" in JREF.)

(I'm not saying there actually is a spiral that started on July 4, 2004 and manifested itself on January 1, 2007; I'm merely saying that assuming there was one, what are the significant dates on the spiral?)

Thanks!

 

[Dutch]

first things first, I will respond later to the requests

Coming up: Hyper Dimensional Octahedron Timeframe around October 1-2, 2008

October 2, 2008 - Hyper Dimensional Octahedron macrolevel orientation.

2 major events in our current times are marking the hidden underlying Design: the Hariri killing and Deep Impact on Temple I.

The Golden Mean timecoded spiral that originated on HD Cube around February 14, 2004, runs through the Hariri killing on HD Cube February 14, 2005, with next hit on the spiral during July 4, 2005 with Deep Impact on comet Temple I. Next hit golden mean based is HD Cube February 14, 2006, with Venus at the same geometrical position.
Then again the HD Cube February 14: in 2007. ( Hariri anniversary, see timelines)

Next date Golden Mean based gives HD Octahedron October 2, 2008.
note that on the other HD Octahedron key date April 1-2, 2008 ( Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe at macrolevel orientation)
Mercury 'The Messenger' was at same geometrical position as during the assassination of Rafik Hariri: UN 'completes' formation of Hariri tribunal
see timeline Q2 2008

Mercury 'The Messenger' during the ascension endtriggerdate at same position as during the assassination of Rafik Hariri

also:Mercury 'The Messenger' at same geometrical position as during the first and second time Cheney as Acting President of the United States of America, see related thread 'Mercury The Messenger'.

also':'Mercury The Messenger' at same position on its orbit as during flight 522 crash: 'running on autopilot towards nuclear devastation.'

Ascension starttriggerdate: March 11, 2004 Madrid Bombings

Mercury 'The Messenger' AND Venus at same position on their orbits during the awakenings starttriggerdate as during the 9/11 attacks

Mars at same position on his Orbit during the ascension endtriggerdate as during Nagasaki
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position during the ascension endtriggerdate as during the expected Nagasaki echo on July 16, 2007:
"Coinciding with a powerful Typhon, a strong eartquake hit Japan causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak. There's no better way to express a Nagasaki echo without throwing another fatman on Japan."

The HD Octahedron is closely connected to the December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami. Mercury 'The Messenger' will be at the same position during the 911 (Tetrahedron) based control endtriggerdate as during the 9+ Sumatra quake / Tsunami on December 26, 2004

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So let's take a look at the trigger events for this HD Octahedron timeframe:

quake / Tsunami

2007 - A tsunami occurs on the northern coast of Japan after an earthquake with a magnitude of 6.9 in the Sea of Japan. NHK reports that 1 person has died and 40 have been injured.
1964 - The Good Friday Earthquake, the most powerful earthquake in U.S. history at a magnitude of 9.2 strikes South Central Alaska, killing 125 people and inflicting massive damage to the city of Anchorage
2005 - The 2005 Sumatran earthquake rocks Indonesia, and at magnitude 8.7 is the second strongest earthquake since 1960.
1946 - Aleutian Island earthquake: A 7.8 magnitude earthquake near the Aleutian Islands creates a tsunami that strikes the Hawaiian Islands killing 159 (mostly in Hilo, Hawaii).
1957 - The magnitude 8.6 1957 Andreanof Islands Earthquake and tsunami occurs.

Ascension starttriggerdate: March 11, 2004 Madrid Bombings

Besides this direct connection with the Ascension triggerdate, these events are also triggerevents, its the first time I see these 3 together:

2004 - Madrid Train Bombings: Simultaneous explosions on rush hour trains in Madrid (Spain) kill 191 people.
2004 - Islamist terrorists involved in the 11 March 2004 Madrid attacks attempt to bomb the Spanish high-speed train AVE near Madrid. Their attack is thwarted.
2004 - Islamic terrorists involved in the 11 March 2004 Madrid attacks are trapped by the police in their apartment and kill themselves

'Deep Impact' - Nagasaki - Nagasaki echo

1979 - In Pennsylvania, a pump in the reactor cooling system fails in the Three Mile Island accident, resulting in the evaporation of some contaminated water causing a nuclear meltdown.
1997 - An explosion at a nuclear waste reprocessing plant in Japan exposes 35 workers to low-level radioactive contamination in the worst nuclear accident in Japan's history.
1981 - More than 100 workers are exposed to radiation during repairs of a nuclear power plant in Tsuruga, Japan.
1986 - In Ukraine, a nuclear reactor accident occurs at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, creating the world's worst nuclear disaster.

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same geometrical position as during the first and second time Cheney as Acting President of the United States of America

US Presidency and Papacy are interchangeable in the concept of 'exit of Sun king'.

1981 - President Ronald Reagan is shot in the chest outside a Washington, D.C., hotel by John Hinckley, Jr.
1981 - President Ronald Reagan returns to the White House from the hospital, 12 days after he was wounded in an assassination attempt.
1841 - President William Henry Harrison dies of pneumonia, becoming the first President of the United States to die in office
1865 - Union cavalry troopers corner and shoot dead John Wilkes Booth, President Lincoln's assassin, in Virginia.
Died: 2005 - Pope John Paul II
2005 - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger is inaugurated as the 265th Pope of the Roman Catholic Church taking the name Pope Benedict XVI.
12 Popes died on the triggers

Hariri - Syria-first war scenario

2005 - Under international pressure, Syria withdraws the last of its 14,000 troop military garrison in Lebanon, ending its 29-year military domination of that country.

Other themes on the triggers:

Cuba

1952 - Fulgencio Batista leads a successful coup in Cuba.
1956 - Fidel Castro declares himself at war with the President of Cuba.
1990 - The United States begins broadcasting TV Martí to Cuba in an effort to bridge the information blackout imposed by the Castro regime.
1989 - Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev arrives in Havana, Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro in an attempt to mend strained relations.

Martin Luther King jr

1965 - Civil rights activists led by Martin Luther King, Jr. successfully complete their 4-day 50-mile march from Selma to the capitol in Montgomery, Alabama.
1967 - Martin Luther King, Jr. delivers his "Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence" speech in New York City's Riverside Church.
1968 - Martin Luther King, Jr. is assassinated by James Earl Ray at a motel in Memphis, Tennessee.
1968 - Martin Luther King Jr. delivers his "I've Been to the Mountaintop" speech.
1969 - In Memphis, Tennessee, James Earl Ray pleads guilty to assassinating Martin Luther King Jr. He would later retract his guilty plea.

Tornado

1890 - A tornado strikes Louisville, Kentucky, killing 76 and injuring 200.
1920 - Palm Sunday tornado outbreak of 1920 affects the Great Lakes region and Deep South states.
1994 - One of the biggest tornado outbreaks in recent memory hits the Southeastern United States. One tornado slams into a church in Piedmont, Alabama during Palm Sunday services killing 20 and injuring 90.
1888 - The Great Blizzard of 1888 begins along the eastern seaboard of the United States, shutting down commerce and killing more than 400.
2006 - Over 60 tornadoes break out, hardest hit is Tennessee with 29 people killed.
1936 - Tupelo-Gainesville tornado outbreak: An F5 tornado kills 233 in Tupelo, Mississippi.
1936 - Tupelo-Gainesville tornado outbreak: Another tornado from the same storm system as the Tupelo tornado hits Gainesville, Georgia, killing 203.
1974 - The Super Outbreak occurs, the biggest tornado outbreak in recorded history. The death toll is 315, with nearly 5,500 injured.
1956 - Hudsonville-Standale Tornado: The western half of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan is struck by a deadly F5 tornado.
1979 - Red River Valley Tornado Outbreak: A tornado lands in Wichita Falls, Texas killing 42 people.
1965 - The Palm Sunday tornado outbreak of 1965: Fifty-one tornadoes hit in six Midwestern states, killing 256 people.
1991 - Seventy tornadoes break out in the central United States. Before the outbreak's end, Andover, Kansas, would record the year's only F5 tornado (see Andover, Kansas Tornado Outbreak).

Serbian leadership

Died: 2006 - Slobodan Milošević, President of Serbia and of Yugoslavia
2003 - Zoran Đinđić, Prime Minister of Serbia ( killed / Dutch)
1991 - Massive demonstrations are held against Slobodan Milošević in Belgrade. Two people are killed and tanks are in the streets.
2001 - Former president of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Slobodan Milošević surrenders to police special forces, to be tried on charges of war crimes.

Russian leadership / independance Georgia

1958 - Nikita Khrushchev becomes Premier of the Soviet Union.
1985 - Mikhail Gorbachev becomes the Soviet Union's leader.
1801 - Paul I of Russia is assassinated, leading the way for his son Alexander I to accede the throne
1991 - Georgian independence referendum, 1991: nearly 99 percent of the voters support the country's independence from the Soviet Union.
1991 - Georgia declares its independence from the Soviet Union.

 

[Dutch]

updated September 25 +/- 1 day:
on the 911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society:
German police seized two suspected terrorists from a Dutch passenger aircraft at Cologne airport Friday shortly before it was due to take off for Amsterdam

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/09/26/germany.plane/index.html

 

[Dutch]

Of course you have to start from scratch, that's how you tell people about new things. Your ideas are new to most people, therefore you need to explain the basic principles behind them; without a basis from which to work, no one can research your ideas independently.

I have done that numerous times in the past. Maybe its a good idea to read the threads about HDDesign on BAUT forum, in which I explain alot.
I don't have access to that forum ( banned) but you can do a search on user Dutch.

 

[Dutch]

Paul, I'm not going to reply on your post 962 line for line

I noticed I have explained already with post 868

 

[Paulhoff]

Humans are a pattern seeking animal, but some humans go way overboard on doing it, and that does go way overboard is named Dutch.

Dutch there are no patterns here, only you see them because you seem to need them so badly.

Paul

 

[Paul]

Paul, I'm not going to reply on your post 962 line for line

I noticed I have explained already with post 868

That would be clever, as you posted that particular word salad back on 29th August.

 

[Dutch]

read this speech of Prime minister Balkenende of The Netherlands, on the evening of September 25 at the UN in New York.

At the predetermined key date September 25 of the 911 based Phi Golden Mean spiral

remember that those people in Srebrenica should have been protected by Dutch soldiers on behalf of the UN. Srebrenica was a UN safe haven.

Read especially on page 3 of this PDF file of his speech:

'Freedom of fear'
Page 4 'freedom of expression and belief'
and the conclusion
here:
http://www.un.org/ga/63/generaldebate/pdf/netherlands_en.pdf

Now be sure that you understand the historical event that took place in Srebrenica, make sure you understand what Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh were standing for.

Both were assassinated on this Phi spiral linked to this Srebrenica karma
Prior to his speech, Balkenende was attending a meeting at the UN in New York honoring killed Dutch peace keeping soldiers.

As we have seen arlier on this related pattern, Dutch peace keeping soldiers were killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan on a previous hit on this Phi spiral. Not protecting the Muslims in Srebrenica is the same as killing your own people.
The Dutch soldiers that were killed are getting a standing ovation at the UN in New York:
25-sep-2008
Ovatie voor nabestaanden militairen in New York
http://oruzgan.web-log.nl/uruzgan_weblog/2008/09/ovatie-voor-nab.html
The muslims in srebrenica were seperated from their womens and shot to death by the thousands because we failed to protect them as promissed.

This karma has been spiralled into the Dutch society, the upcoming days are already given.

read the speech...........and think about it.... alot

I recommend to try to understand what has happened here

 

[Paul]

read this speech of Prime minister Balkenende of The Netherlands, on the evening of September 25 at the UN in New York.

At the predetermined key date September 25 of the 911 based Phi Golden Mean spiral

OK, what's special or especially important about any of that?

remember that those people in Srebrenica should have been protected by Dutch soldiers on behalf of the UN. Srebrenica was a UN safe haven.

What, exactly, is your problem with the Dutch military and government?

Now be sure that you understand the historical event that took place in Srebrenica,

I think that's something you should attain a more complete understanding of.

make sure you understand what Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh were standing for.

Between them a sort of gay, fascist, islamophobic, anti-semitic, republican centrism? With the right for them to say anything they wanted about other people of course.

Both were assassinated on this Phi spiral linked to this Srebrenica karma

That really does look like a pretty desperate attempt at a connection.

Prior to his speech, Balkenende was attending a meeting at the UN in New York honoring killed Dutch peace keeping soldiers.

Good for him, he is Prime Minister of the Kingdom of the Netherlands after all.

As we have seen arlier on this related pattern, Dutch peace keeping soldiers were killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan on a previous hit on this Phi spiral.

I don't like where this is heading...

Not protecting the Muslims in Srebrenica is the same as killing your own people.

And there it is, your obsession is really becoming rather nasty.

The Dutch soldiers that were killed are getting a standing ovation at the UN in New York:

Do you have a reason for objecting to that, one that doesn't involve any irrational prejudices that is?

read the speech...........and think about it.... alot

It would appear that you have been thinking about it entirely too much.

I recommend to try to understand what has happened here

I can see where a lack of understanding might lead to certain ill-formed opinions and desperate retrofitting.

 

[Blue Mountain]

All right, I think I'm following you here. Assume two significant events occur 911 days apart: the first one on July 4, 2001 and the next on January 1, 2004. Assuming I've read your above post correctly, the next two significant dates on the spiral are as follows:

January 1, 2004 + (911/1.61803399) = 2004-01-01 + 563 days = July 17, 2005 (+/- 1 day)
July 17, 2005 + (563/1.61803399) = 2005-07-17 + 347 days = June 29, 2006 (+/- 1 day)

Am I correct? Can you show me, please, the next three dates on the spiral? (Remember the "E" in JREF.)

(I'm not saying there actually is a spiral that started on July 4, 2004 and manifested itself on January 1, 2007; I'm merely saying that assuming there was one, what are the significant dates on the spiral?)

Thanks!

Hi Dutch,

Can you take a few minutes out of your obviously busy posting schedule to answer this question, please?

Thanks.

 

[Dutch]

That's a nice examle, but I would choose a July 4 in another year

Deep Impact happened on July 4, 2005,

911 days later there was an actual Earth fly by on January 1, 2008

next date will 911 / 1.61803399 = 563 days later on July 17, 2009.

That date will be mentioned on the timeline for Q3 2009 with 'Deep Impact'as underlying theme

next date wil be 911+ 911/1.61803399 +911/1.61803399/1.61803399= 1822 days after the start= June 30, 2010

That date will also be on the future timeline as it makes an 911 based control timeframe around January 1, 2008 with an actual Earth fly by of spacecraft Deep Impact, the starttriggerdate July 4 2005 with Deep Impact on comet Temple I ( 911 days ) and endtriggerdate around June 30, 2010

you can go on like this until the end of the spiral arounf January 14, 2012.

 

[Dutch]

Paul,

You should really read about this specific 911 based Phi spiral.

I could write a whole book on this specific spiral only

Why don't you just read the related thread so you can keep it in mind when those next keydates come in October and November ( end of spiral)

I don't think we should respond line by line.

 

[Paul]

Paul,

You should really read about this specific 911 based Phi spiral.

Dutch, you really should stop expending time avoiding giving any answers - see fine example #973 - and try replying properly to the questions asked.

Why don't you just read the related thread so you can keep it in mind when those next keydates come in October and November ( end of spiral)

Because I asked you questions so that you, the supposed expert on this subject, could answer them, not so that you could get more traffic to you forums.

I don't think we should respond line by line.

Obviously I do, or I wouldn't have done it.

Anyway, it's point by point, and if you don't think some of the points raised by myself and others are worth responding to, perhaps you should ask yourself why your ideas don't hold up to basic questioning.

 

[Polgara]

Word salad.

 

[Hans]

Hey Dutch

I find you everwhere on the net, forum after forum. Still spreading that special mental masturbation only you understand. I wonder how long you'll keep this up - I presume the mental chaffing must be getting pretty severe!

 

[Dutch]

September 30, 2008 - keep an eye on Hubble - ISS, or other manmade objects in space - MIR 'Peace' desintegrated, as above so below
Mars at same position on its orbit as during desintegretion of MIR

Updated:

desintegration of 'MIR'revisited:

Europe's "space truck" heads for Pacific breakup

Scientists have earmarked a remote area of the South Pacific where bits of Europe's massive space freighter may crash when the orbiting craft is destroyed in a suicide plunge on Monday ( September 30 - 1 day) , an official said on Friday.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Europes_space_truck_heads_for_Pacific_breakup_999.html

MIR means Peace

timeline Q3, 2008 Jul - Aug - Sep
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about317-hddesign.html

 

[Paul]

September 30, 2008 - keep an eye on Hubble - ISS, or other manmade objects in space

Any particular one of the approximately 9000 items we should pay special attention to?

MIR 'Peace' desintegrated, as above so below

And? That was in March 2001.

Mars at same position on its orbit as during desintegretion of MIR

What does mars have to do with anything?

Updated:

desintegration of 'MIR'revisited: ...snip...

Is there any point at all to this reposted news?

MIR means Peace

It also means world, and possibly universe as well, and, according to Wikipedia was the name given to pre-revolutionary Russian peasant communes.

timeline Q3, 2008 Jul - Aug - Sep

Stop fishing for hits, that's the same 15 page thread you've been plugging, but refusing to answer questions about, all week.

 

[Dutch]

?

I have put the desintegration of MIR on the timeline for September 30 +/- 1 day and it appears now that 'Jules Verne' will desintegrate next monday........

What do you need to open up your rigid mind?