Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

Just so we have full coverage of Pauls:

Paul,

I am posting at dozens of forums and have very little time to post lately ( new job and little kids). I can't affort to explain everything again and again from the beginning. The threads at BAUT forum are a good start to make it easier to understand

Against my better judgement I read some of the BAUT stuff, and your forums, and it doesn't help at all.

It does, however, help to explain the possible roots of all this; pareidolia and belief in psychic phenomena.

 

[sts60]

Discovery crew relaxes, prepares for return after successful mission, adding Japanese Kibo module to International Space Station.

GLAST (Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope) successfully lifts off into orbit.

Phoenix Mars Lander begins analyzing first soil sample.

"Stay out of space and don't mess with nuclear power"

I come back every now and then and look at Dutch's latest. It's always good for a laugh. But this line is still the funniest of all.

For those of you who are new to this thread since I last posted here (ending on page 13) - where I showed, among other things, that Dutch's "system" relies on systematically incorrect intervals, uses meaningless accuracy figures, cannot account for natural events of far larger magnitudes than his arbitrarily-chosen manmade ones, ascribes equal significance to the date an event actually occurs and to the date any given article is published about that event, and literally cannot distinguish significant events from insignificant ones - I thought I'd just present a little summary of the success record of U.S. nuclear power in space. After all, if we take both "major themes" and combine them, that's pretty important, right?

22 successful launches with 23 spacecraft containing 41 radioisotope generators, starting with Transit 4A in 1961 and with the most recent being Pluto-New Horizons in 2006. Every single one functioned exactly as designed. Voyager 1 and 2 are still going strong after 31 years; Cassini is still exploring Saturn; New Horizons roared past Jupiter last year on its way to Pluto and the Kuiper Belt.

3 aborted missions with 3 spacecraft containing 4 RTGs. In each case, the launch vehicle or other part of the spacecraft malfunctioned, and the RTGs reentered; and in each case, the generator/heat source performed exactly as designed.

There have also been well over two hundred isotope heater units launched, including several on the three solar-powered Mars rovers launched to date. Again, every one of them has performed exactly as designed. (The RHUs aboard Spirit and Opportunity have played a major role in keeping them alive so long past their design lifetimes.)

The U.S. has also launched one nuclear reactor (SNAP-10A) into space, which operated for about a month before an unrelated spacecraft failure caused the reactor to shut down automatically. Again, the unit functioned exactly as designed.

I post this only for the interest of those on the thread who may not have read back to what I wrote earlier, and who might have wondered what dire results would arise if one combined two "major themes" warning against space travel and nuclear power. It's a giggle; he literally wound up trying to rewrite the definition of "success". Poor Dutch. A nice man, evidently, but too heavily invested in his astronumerology to admit it's nothing more than word salad.

 

[Dutch]

It appears that you do not in fact translate degrees of an orbit to earth days but the entire orbit to earth days, so your resolution is +/- one orbit and that corresponding number of days.

The Man,

I shouldn't have used the term degrees, I did that in an effort to emphasize that the actual 3D location or shape of an orbit is irrelevant. I use the number of Earthdays the orbits take, regardless the actual positions of the planets or the background ( as in astrology )

The monitored events day is 'leading' so to speak, the other positions of planets are determined based on the number of Earth days it take to complete an orbit, or to be at the same relative position on their orbits.

The monitored events day is extended by +/- 1 day as the timeframe that correspond with the given 'geometrical' correlations. This timeframe is probably way to rigid but is necessarry to try to understand the patterns.

Take Reagan's death for instance, he died just before the Venus transit and was buried soon after. Than you talk about 5 or 6 days, while the actual transit only takes an hour or so?

This +/- 1 day is a limitation that is too rigid, but I stick to it as much as possible

 

[Dutch]

Respectfully, what you are doing is very much like a religion.
Think about it: no religion has obvious demonstrable proof of their god sitting up on top of a mountain or beaming messages from space, etc - all religion is a matter of 'faith' - and all religion is in hindsight - Jesus, Abraham, Mohammed, Buddha - there's always a historical figure (many times a real one) who 30-300 years later has mythological characteristics ascribed to him after the fact. How different is that from the above retrospective associations?

obviously you have missed the examples in the material, like the exit of the Pope, Arafat, Milosevuc. The outbreak of the brithflu, 'the Srebrenica karma' events, the Hariri/Syria expectations prior to each HD date at macrolevel orientation.
This has nothing to do with religion, there's enough on the future timelines to get convinced

 

[Dutch]

sts60,

You should come back more often than every now and then, or better: you should keep an eye on the timelines regularly.

As you can read in the material, accidents in space do bare the fingerprints of the described Design.

When I say "stay out of space and don't mess with nuclear power" than I'm expressing the 2 deepest underlying themes of the Design of our times.

Nothing funny about this, you will come to understand the meaning of this

 

[Paulhoff]

Dutch, you are delusional and you should get help, but then most people I know are delusional about something, often it is about some so-called god and nothing I can say will talk them out of that delusional either. The so-called patterns you see are only in you mind and nowhere else. You most likely have some at believe in you Hyper Dimensional Design, but only shows that like you they also need a non-random world and know little of how life is. You like most people need patterns and/or reasons in the random world we live in, you think you have found it, but it is not there. You have wasted a lot of time on this when you should have studied some good scientific books, but alas we seem to be wasting time on you. Good luck on your misunderstanding of things Dutch.

Paul

 

[Dutch]

Well, you can call it what you want, but the timing of this blast is very profound and we should try to understand the message that is given

it happened Golden Mean based at the end of the 9/11 - madrid timecoded spiral aswel as Phi conncted with the first asteroid landing on Eros with 'Deep Imapct' on Temple I as Phipoint

this timeframe was already identified as a very significant timeframe and put on the timelines last year already

That is even withhout the Eros - Deep impact reference, that became clear just recently

If you don't open your mind and stay with your science books only, you will come to the conclusion that you have missed the opportunities that are given. Progress seems odd initially.
If you should know me in person, you would consider me very stable individual, far from delusional.

I understand these toughts and I don't blame you. You can't help it at the moment.

This material will change your perspective eventually

 

[Paulhoff]

If you don't open your mind and stay with your science books only, you will come to the conclusion that you have missed the opportunities that are given. Progress seems odd initially.
If you should know me in person, you would consider me very stable individual, far from delusional.

You just don't understand, you have shown no real proofs, you only state things that have happened and make them you proofs, anybody, anybody can do the same thing. I can use any numbers in any combination and just look at the news and point to anything I want and say it is a connection to my numbers. You predict nothing, anything in the news can be you answer, you are deluding yourself, sorry.

You don't understand, but it is you that have the closed mind.

Paul

 

[Complexity]

Thank you all for keeping Dutch occupied and out of trouble.

 

[Paulhoff]

Well, you can call it what you want, but the timing of this blast is very profound and we should try to understand the message that is given

Damn if this doesn't sound like believing in a so-called god. Please Dutch, what is the message, is it anything that you what it to be, so that you make some point about something that you believe in and you can use whatever you what has a proof to prove your belief. It only shows how you don't understand the universe. Dutch the universe doesn't care about you, humans, the earth, moon, sun etc, get over it.

Paul

 

[Paulhoff]

Thank you all for keeping Dutch occupied and out of trouble.

Dutch has kids, there is a lot of trouble right there, we can only hope that they can straighten Dutch out.

Paul

 

[Paul]

I shouldn't have used the term degrees, I did that in an effort to emphasize that the actual 3D location or shape of an orbit is irrelevant.

Making geometry irrelevant.

I use the number of Earthdays the orbits take, regardless the actual positions of the planets or the background ( as in astrology )

Making your system superstitious nonsense.

The monitored events day is 'leading' so to speak, the other positions of planets are determined based on the number of Earth days it take to complete an orbit, or to be at the same relative position on their orbits.

Making no sense, as you already said the position of any body in space is irrelevant.

The monitored events day is extended by +/- 1 day as the timeframe that correspond with the given 'geometrical' correlations.

An arbitrary figure which allows more apparent correlations but actually demonstrates the complete fabrication of the whole system.

This timeframe is probably way to rigid but is necessarry to try to understand the patterns.

The precise point of alleged intersection with whatever it is that demonstrates a pattern would not be too rigid.

Take Reagan's death for instance, he died just before the Venus transit and was buried soon after.

Making the transit completely irrelevant to Reagan.

Than you talk about 5 or 6 days, while the actual transit only takes an hour or so?

You brought up the transit, it's your fault if you keep shooting yourself in the foot.

This +/- 1 day is a limitation that is too rigid, but I stick to it as much as possible

Demonstrating either a complete lack of faith or knowledge in a real system, or a complete lack of accuracy in an entirely fabricated one.

 

[orange31]

Dutch, this really IS a religion you're proposing, because you claim associations happening, but that such associations cannot be predicted. This is known as "predestination", and it's a common component of several religions thru history.

 

[The Man]

Besides what Paul already said in response to your post that the following quotes are from, I would just like to add…

“What the hell are you talking about?”

When shown that the orbital velocity of Mercury is not consistent and you do not in fact translate degrees to days you at least honestly capitulate that it was a misstatement on your part.

I shouldn't have used the term degrees, I did that in an effort to emphasize that the actual 3D location or shape of an orbit is irrelevant. I use the number of Earthdays the orbits take, regardless the actual positions of the planets or the background ( as in astrology )

(Apparently also as in astronomy.)

Now suddenly you what to claim an even greater resolution saying that “the actual transit only takes an hour or so”

Take Reagan's death for instance, he died just before the Venus transit and was buried soon after. Than you talk about 5 or 6 days, while the actual transit only takes an hour or so?

This +/- 1 day is a limitation that is too rigid, but I stick to it as much as possible

It would seem that you stick to it far more then it is “possible”.

That was a pretty fast burial; Reagan died just before and was buried soon after this “hour or so” transit.

First you must define what you think constitutes the transit, maybe +/- one planet diameter from the orbital completion position, convert that to orbital degrees or distance then know the location within the orbit, to find out how long that transit would actually take.

Science and math are about specifics and exactness, bandying about such words as “just before”, “hour or so” and “soon after” clearly indicates a lack of such specificity and exactness. Claiming patterns without the precision of calculation to provide the applicable resolution of those patterns only confirms that this would hardly even be a poor fantasy, let alone any real science or math (hyper dimensional or otherwise).

Regardless of what you what to claim as irrelevant, because of what you do claim as relevant, certain things you whish to consider irrelevant, like astronomy (not astrology), do become quite relevant. If those factors are irrelevant then what you do want to claim as relevant (like trigger dates) are also irrelevant.

 

[Broes]

Arthur C Clark: look what happened when he died:
Star explodes halfway across universe!!!!!!!!!!!

As dozens of stars do every day...

 

[sts60]

Latest news:

Shuttle back from mission with 'beautiful landing'

Phoenix Delivers Soil Sample to Microscope

GLAST (Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope) in Orbit! - GLAST checkout underway.

Some ongoing missions:

Cassini Sees Collisions of Moons on Saturn's Ring - "Cassini scientists have discovered that the rapid changes in Saturn's F ring are due to small moons colliding with the ring. These results are reported in the June 5 issue of Nature." The nuclear (isotope) - powered Cassini is still going strong after four years of Saturn operations, more than 11 years after launch.

Spirit Still 'Sitting Pretty' for This Time of Year
Shoulder Motor Balks on Opportunity's Robotic Arm
Of course, the MERs are on their fifth extended mission, having exceeded their design lifetimes by a factor of 18 by this point. So one can expect some aches and pains on the little guys; but a significant contributor to their longevity has been the eight small nuclear heaters each carries.

Voyager 2 Proves Solar System Is Squashed - The nuclear (isotope)-powered Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft explore the shape of the magnetosheath as the solar wind "bubble" encounters the interstellar medium. The two spacecraft continue to head for interstellar space, busily reporting science data more than thirty years after launch.

 

[Paul]

Darn it, that thar space sure is dangrus. Wouldn't want to be goin thar, speshly usin' one o' them nuclar reacters.

 

[Dutch]

You just don't understand, you have shown no real proofs, you only state things that have happened and make them you proofs, anybody, anybody can do the same thing. I can use any numbers in any combination and just look at the news and point to anything I want and say it is a connection to my numbers. You predict nothing, anything in the news can be you answer, you are deluding yourself, sorry.

You don't understand, but it is you that have the closed mind.

Paul

There is no real proof, I never said there is. If I could show you, I would be on my way to Oslo.

Be my quest and show me the underlying themes that will be expressed in at specific moments of time in our future.

You completely disregard the intuitive insights and synchronicities that pop up everywhere with this material

 

[Dutch]

Thank you all for keeping Dutch occupied and out of trouble.

not that occupied with this and I have yet to meet the first one to cause real trouble for the HDdesign material

 

[Dutch]

Damn if this doesn't sound like believing in a so-called god. Please Dutch, what is the message, is it anything that you what it to be, so that you make some point about something that you believe in and you can use whatever you what has a proof to prove your belief. It only shows how you don't understand the universe. Dutch the universe doesn't care about you, humans, the earth, moon, sun etc, get over it.

Paul

I want to emphasize that I have always said that WE have a shared responsibility to what we co-create in our reality. We are experiencing our state of consciousness.
So you do understand the universe?