Hyper Dimensional Design

[The Man]

The Man,

The 3D shape is irrelevant, aswell as the positions in relation to the background in space. Its the Geometry that counts , regardless the shape of an orbit.
We have gone through this BAUT forum, until the forum rules were changed giving you 30 days to 'prove' the theory.

Yes how smart indeed

I think you better read the threads at baut first

Regardless of what you might choose to call geometry, you have stated that you relate (or translate) the degrees transversed in the orbit into a number of Earth days.

I talk about geometrical positions in relation to the orbit around the Sun, the hart of our Hyper Dimensional system ( as I see it). The shape of the orbit is irrelevant, aswell as the actual location in space. Its the relative position that counts, degrees translated into earth days

This is not about astrology, its about geometry

Since the number of degrees transversed per unit time is not constant and depends on the position in the orbit, so does the number of days those degrees being transversed will require (or translate to). As Paulhoff said geometry is about shape and your misapplication of the term Geometry appears to be reason why you assert that shape (and therefore Geometry) is irrelevant to your theory in which “Its the Geometry that counts”. With that no one needs more the 30 seconds to see that you are talking out the other end of your Geometry.

I think you better read some books on Geometry

 

[orange31]

I would keep an eye on the timeline instead

The problem is the timeline is always in hindsight, which lets one believe whatever he prefers to believe (a source of great strength but also great tragedy for the human race).

Let me illustrate with the "pattern" of the deaths of 18 people, with some connections to the JFK assasination, within a few years later- in hindsight the odds of predicting it were impossibly high, which some took as evidence of a pattern- ie, they were murdered because they were part or knew of a conspiracy.

Umpteen Trillion to One Odds?
The conspiracy literature occasionally still quotes a supposed study done by the London Sunday Times which found that "the odds against these [assassination] witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one." The House Select Committee on Assassinations asked the newspaper where they got that number. The paper replied with the following letter.
The Editor has passed me your letter of 25th April.
Our piece about the odds against the deaths of the Kennedy witnesses was, I regret to say, based on a careless journalistic mistake and should not have been published. This was realized by The Sunday Times' editorial staff after the first edition — the one which goes to the United States and which I believe you have — had gone out, and later editions were amended.

There was no question of our actuary having got his answer wrong. It was simply that we asked him the wrong question. He was asked what were the odds against 15 named people out of the population of the United States dying within a short period of time to which he replied — correctly — that they were very high. However, if one asks what are the odds against 15 of those included in the Warren Commission index dying within a given period, the answer is, of course, that they are much lower. Our mistake was to treat the reply to the former question as if it dealt with the latter — hence the fundamental error in our first edition report, for which we apologize.

None of the editorial staff involved in this story can remember the name of the actuary we consulted, but in view of what happened you will, I imagine, agree that his identity is hardly material.

Yours sincerely,
Antony Whitaker,
Legal Manager.
(4 HSCA 464-65)

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/deaths.htm

 

[Dutch]

With shape is irrelevant I mean that the HD Platonic solid based keydates are based on Platonic Geometry ( originating from outside our 3D reality), but that they loose their 'shape' when translated into Eartdays.

regardless the shape of an orbit, it takes +/- 1 earthday for mercury to fulfill 1 orbit within 87.969 days, even if the orbit would be a square

 

[Paulhoff]

regardless the shape of an orbit, it takes +/- 1 earthday for mercury to fulfill 1 orbit within 87.969 days, even if the orbit would be a square

The orbit can't be square and what does mercury have to do with anything. You haven't predicted anything, and you have only reported cherry-point news. You have not shown any so-called design except to show your limited understanding of how things work.

Paul

 

[Paul]

With shape is irrelevant I mean that the HD Platonic solid based keydates are based on Platonic Geometry ( originating from outside our 3D reality), but that they loose their 'shape' when translated into Eartdays.

What on earth (or not , in your case) are you going on about?

'Geometry' which originates outside reality, doesn't rely on actual geometry inside reality, and which you refuse to provide any evidence for?

regardless the shape of an orbit, it takes +/- 1 earthday for mercury to fulfill 1 orbit within 87.969 days, even if the orbit would be a square

So you know the length of Mercury's orbit, so what? The point is that you fail to account for variations which mean that the position of Mercury changes by a variable amount depending on the previously given circumstances.

 

[The Man]

With shape is irrelevant I mean that the HD Platonic solid based keydates are based on Platonic Geometry ( originating from outside our 3D reality), but that they loose their 'shape' when translated into Eartdays.

regardless the shape of an orbit, it takes +/- 1 earthday for mercury to fulfill 1 orbit within 87.969 days, even if the orbit would be a square

Well it certainly appears as if most of this theory of yours originates from outside of reality. If you would like to consider reality then 360 degrees divided by 87.969 days gives about +/- 4.1 degrees of orbit transversed by Mercury in +/- 1 earth day. However with an eccentricity of .208 and a semi-major axis of 5.79 X 10¹⁰ meters the actual degrees transversed in any given Earth day can vary anywhere from 7.21 to 0.97. In other words your +/- 1 day at the position (closest to the sun) in Mercury’s orbit would equate to +/- 7.42 days on the other side (furthest from the sun) of that orbit. If you are just going with the average 4.1 degrees per day then +/- 1 day can equate to anywhere from +/- 0.6 days to +/- 4.2 days depending on where Mercury is in its orbit when you start counting orbits. Reality makes things a lot harder to explain then hyper dimensions outside of reality.

 

[orange31]

This thread is dedicated to the search for indications of hidden underlying multidimensional design just underneath the surface of our familiar 3-dimensional reality.

During the last couple of years I have developed methods of research in order to try to identfy these indications. Because it's always easy to elaborate on correlations after the fact, I will focus on anticipations prior to the monitored events days in order to give a deeper meaning to the described Design.

The original post from february 2007(Italics and sizing mine, text unchanged)

personally, exit stage left.

 

[Dutch]

Have you guys read the explanations given at Baut forum and the HDDesign forum or not? obviously its not clear what my point of perspective is. HD Physics has everything to do with rotation and what i do is 'translating'it in our perception of time. The actual 3 D location is irrelevant, the relative position is.

Please go through the material

 

[Dutch]

The original post from february 2007(Italics and sizing mine, text unchanged)

personally, exit stage left.

Well, you shopuld monitor the timelines at HDDesign forum, obviously you haven't

 

[Paulhoff]

Have you guys read the explanations given at Baut forum and the HDDesign forum or not? obviously its not clear what my point of perspective is. HD Physics has everything to do with rotation and what i do is 'translating'it in our perception of time. The actual 3 D location is irrelevant, the relative position is.

Please go through the material

Read the misinformation, yes.

Paul

 

[orange31]

Well, you should monitor the timelines at HDDesign forum, obviously you haven't

I checked them out, the thread description is accurate-

Identifying possible triggerevents
"Possible triggerevents can be posted here and if indeed a timecoded pattern will emerge or related events will follow, than the information here can be used in seperate threads. So there's no need to put things into perspective here, just post the events that seem important somehow."

Again, the inability to predict a specific event in the future makes this endeavor as a belief system - a kind of religion - not science. That's ok, just call it what it is.

 

[Paul]

obviously its not clear what my point of perspective is.

Obviously, but if you refuse to explain, what can we do?

HD Physics has everything to do with rotation and what i do is 'translating'it in our perception of time.

Rotation of what? And if it needs translating to our 'time', where does this rotation occur?

The actual 3 D location is irrelevant, the relative position is.

What is the difference?

Please go through the material

You're posting here, we're here to start with, the relevant material belongs here.*



*(note the stress on relevant, this is not an invitation to spam the forum with vast oceans of pointlessness)

 

[The Man]

Have you guys read the explanations given at Baut forum and the HDDesign forum or not? obviously its not clear what my point of perspective is. HD Physics has everything to do with rotation and what i do is 'translating'it in our perception of time. The actual 3 D location is irrelevant, the relative position is.

Please go through the material

But that is my point, the rotational accuracy of your post occurrence translations, if you are only using the whole number of orbits of mercury then your resolution or accuracy is +/- 1 orbit or +/- 88 earth days. If you want to claim some greater correlation or accuracy in your post hoc translations then you must be more realistically accurate in those translations, making the related orbital positions of Mercury and the timing of the events very relevant. I think you have made your “point of perspective” abundantly clear here. You can add up the number of orbits of Mercury between two events that have already happened but can not (or do not choose to) do it to any degree of accuracy other then +/- one orbit (or even realistically discuss that rotational translational accuracy), I am amazed

 

[Dutch]

During the timeframe around March 23, 2008, the 911 ( HD Tetrahedron) Golden Mean Phi-based timecoded spiral 9/11 - Madrid bombings 'expired' in our perception of time.

As you can read in the 'breaking the code' thread, 9/11 in combination with Phi Golden mean and/or the end of the Mayan Calendar seem to unveil the most profound underlying themes of the Design of our times, at least that's how I see it.

like for instance the pioneer missions, with Pioneer 10 becomming the first manmade object to leave the solar system, intelligently connected to 9/11 and the end of the Mayan Calendar via Phi Golden Mean. The Design is beautiful: earlier we have seen a 6 times 911 ( HD Tetrahedron) = 5466 base element of Design, here we see a 6 times 1111 awakenings timeframe:

June 12, 1983 (+/- 1day):

Pioneer 10 becomes the first manmade object to leave the solar system.

June 12, 1983 - September 11, 2001 = 6666 days

6666 / Phi golden Mean gives the end of the Mayan Calendar

so in fact 9/11 was Phi point between Pioneer 10 leaving our solarsystem and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Going back to the 911 based Golden Mean timecoded spiral 9/11 - Madrid.

When this spiral expired writer Arthur C Clarke died.

Arthur C Clarke: predictions
The imagination of the science fiction author Sir Arthur C Clarke bubbled over with ideas about the future of science, technology and human society. Here, BBC science and technology staff look at some that came true, and some that did not:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7304852.stm

Arthur C Clarke:
"Gamma ray bursts are sudden outbursts of energy - several times more powerful than the sun - which may suddenly occur," he elucidated.
"If it happens during any of our lifetimes, we have all had it. I think that such a phenomenon may have affected evolution and if it happens again, there is nothing we can do about it.

look what happened when he died:

Star explodes halfway across universe!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/03/21/exploding.star.ap/index.html

March 19, 2008 - An exploding star halfway across the visible universe becomes the farthest known object ever visible to the naked eye

The significance of this event became clear to me yesterday, by synchronicity: by 'coincidence' an event crossed my path that unveiled the hidden underlying design instantly:

February 12, 2001 - The NEAR Shoemaker spacecraft touches down in the "saddle" region of 433 Eros, becoming the first spacecraft to land on an asteroid.

First thought of course is 'Deep Impact' on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005

February 12, 2001 - July 4, 2005 / Phi Golden Mean gives March 20, 2008 ( +/- 1day).

Eros landing - 'Deep impact' at Phi point - exploding Star at end of 9/11 spiral

Just like the planets and moons, comet Temple I is part of our Hyper Dimensional solarsystem, so its NOT a good idea to hit comet Temple I like that, at least that's what I think the Design is showing.

"Stay out of space and don't mess with nuclear power"

 

[Dutch]

I checked them out, the thread description is accurate-

Identifying possible triggerevents
"Possible triggerevents can be posted here and if indeed a timecoded pattern will emerge or related events will follow, than the information here can be used in seperate threads. So there's no need to put things into perspective here, just post the events that seem important somehow."

Again, the inability to predict a specific event in the future makes this endeavor as a belief system - a kind of religion - not science. That's ok, just call it what it is.

You are taking a part of the forum that has been set up to post some 'interesting' events. I don't know how or when a timecoded pattern event emerges, but the first step is to identify the marker events like 9/11 etc.

This part of the forum is not on the main HDDesign forum and only used for possible references. I don't do much with this part of the forum anyway, because emerging patterns normally pop up instantly and are used on the main forum directly.
What I do isn't science nor religion. I don't do exact predictions, I do try to identify timecoded patterns that will express specific underlying themes at specific moments in our perspective of time

 

[Dutch]

Paul,

I am posting at dozens of forums and have very little time to post lately ( new job and little kids). I can't affort to explain everything again and again from the beginning. The threads at BAUT forum are a good start to make it easier to understand

 

[Dutch]

The Man,

I tyhink we have a misunderstanding. I normally use a +/- 1 Earthday timeframe around a monitored events day. When this timeframe corresponds with a complete orbit of the planets I consider the planet to be at the same relative position, 365.242 for Earth, 87.969 for Mercury, 224.68etc. for Venus etc. When I use Platonic solid based HD 'shapes' or Phi there's no spiral visible in our 3D reality, nor any Platonic solid. that's because of the geometric coorelations loose shape in our dimensions as they are 'pushed into the orbits of rotational bodies in our HD solarsytem.
How do you tell Kaku's carp that there's a whole world outside the pond? and yet this world is causing cycles in the pond.
The geometrical correlations remain, but they loose shape so to speak

 

[The Man]

Again, precisely my point, +/- one earth day corresponds to one orbit less in some locations within that orbit then in others. What do you consider corresponding to one orbit the maximum, minimum or average angular distance from that complete orbit within +/- one day? It appears that you do not in fact translate degrees of an orbit to earth days but the entire orbit to earth days, so your resolution is +/- one orbit and that corresponding number of days.

 

[orange31]

...What I do isn't science nor religion. I don't do exact predictions, I do try to identify timecoded patterns that will express specific underlying themes at specific moments in our perspective of time

Respectfully, what you are doing is very much like a religion.
Think about it: no religion has obvious demonstrable proof of their god sitting up on top of a mountain or beaming messages from space, etc - all religion is a matter of 'faith' - and all religion is in hindsight - Jesus, Abraham, Mohammed, Buddha - there's always a historical figure (many times a real one) who 30-300 years later has mythological characteristics ascribed to him after the fact. How different is that from the above retrospective associations?

 

[Paulhoff]

Paul,

I am posting at dozens of forums and have very little time to post lately ( new job and little kids). I can't affort to explain everything again and again from the beginning. The threads at BAUT forum are a good start to make it easier to understand

You have not, not, not, and not explained anything the first time thru.

Paul