Hyper Dimensional Design

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You debunk yourself.You claim that HDD can predict the future but you refuse to give us predictions.What could be more silly than that? Take the advice,be a good father and husband and try to rid yourself of this useless obsession.You could bang away at this nonsense for a hundred years and you would not convince anyone.

I don't claim to predict the future, I do claim that we have to deal with specific issues or underlying themes at specific moments in our perception of time, that there are patterns that follow an Intelligent hidden underlying Design and that the correlations between orbitting elements of our solarsystems are also based on an intelligent Design ( 'as above, so below')

You don't have to worry about me not being a good father or husband, a positive side effect of this HDDesign 'research' is that it makes you a better person. Maybe it could help you.
 
Could you clear up what you mean by the bold part? The problem I have is that it appears to be the very definition of "predicting the future," which you also disclaim in the above paragraph.

That its not an exact prediction, in a sense the identification of a future timeframe with specific underlying themes already changes the final outcome of what will eventually materialize. I don't 'see' the future as a fact.
 
Good god. Three pages of notes since I was gone, had to briefly catch up. Not that Dutch came up with anything new.

As you might have seen, the new updates aren't allowed to be posted here. I don't know why it is a problem suddenly. You can skip alot of posts from people who aren't actually trying to understand this, they don't even read. So the number of pages is irrelevant
 
That was you responding to all of us requesting that you provide us with the math you used. It is also yet another boldfaced lie. You ARE a liar, Dutch. Throwing numbers out by themselves is NOT math. You've claimed numerous time that you use "calculation" in your predictions. And each time, without fail, when asked to provide those calculations, your either refuse or lie about having posted them beforehand. Why should we even bother humoring you, Dutch, when you don't even have respect enough for everyone else here to not lie to our faces, when you KNOW we know better than that?

Don't call me a liar. all calculations are available in the material or even here in this thread! ask me specifically and I show you!

have a little respect
 
Right, just dropping in to show your contempt for us folks.

Calculations would have been better.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6677698&postcount=3966

yes, haven't you read the posts about Mount st.Helens and Yellowstone?

I have explained that if you reverse the continental drift on a rotating closed sphere over an extended period of time, that mount St'Helens would be located to the East and to the South of its current position, at one point corresponding with the area of Yellowstone ( currently)
 
Fine. The very next time you decide to put together a prediction, walk us through it all, from start to finish, and include every nuance of math that involves. Everything. Diagrams, charts, with very long descriptions of what you are doing in that stage, why it needs to be done, and what you plan to do next.

Take us though, step by step. If you are unable or unwilling to do this, then merely post the work from a previous prediction in the same way. Including all math, charts, ect.

I wrote a post that has been lost, but I'll try again.

As I've said before, I have had many times that I had nothing else to mention but that it could change at any time. like today.

I'm at work but it was on my mind to find out about comet 2009 HC82 because my 'research' indicates that this comet is playing an important role in the 'communication' that is taking place. I wanted to know the expected next perihelion so I found it and posted it on the timeline Q4 2012. This is to be considered the first step in relation to this future date, nothing more nothing less, just a date and I logged it on the timeline.

November 10, 2012 - expected return at perihelion of comet 'Awakening in optima forma' 2009 HC82 ( expressing Pi-based awakeningstimeframe 'inwards' aswel as 'outwards'.)

'Inwards' and 'outwards' has been explained in my previous update but wasn't allowed to be posted here.
I short: orbit 2009 HC82 is 3.39a = 3.39 * 365,25 = 1238,2 Earth days

Pi point 'inwards' based on the Pi Design as unveiled in the HDDesign material: 1238,2 / Pi/Pi = 125,4
1238,2 -125,4 = 1112.8
1112.8 / 2 = 556 days rounded

556 is heart of the 1111 days awakeningstimeframe as explained in the previous update.
'Outwards' gives 1238,2 * Pi *Pi = 12221 days rounded
which is 11 times 1111 awakeningstimeframe.

After I posted the above today December 30, 2010, about the expected return at perihelion of comet 2009 HC82, I thought to give the 2 Pi points a closer look, I mean the 2 Pi points on the current orbit of 2009 HC82 that will reach a full orbit on November 10, 2012.

556 days prior to November 10, 2012 gives May 4, 2011 !!!!, a date already identified in my previous post here as very significant in relation to this very same comet 2009 HC82:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=12296&mforum=hddesign#12296

May 4, 2011, was already metioned on the timeline Q2 2011 as second Pi point Steins, directly connected to the identification of comet 2009 HC82 as part of the 'communication' and the discovery of the Pi based Design in the orbit of this comet in relation to the awakeningstimeframe.
So the orbit of 2009 HC82 is again confirming this very same Design, now when looked at it from the expected perihelion date!!!!!

The second Pi point is at 681 days prior to November 10, 2012:

December 30, 2010!!

That's today, the dicovery of this specific underlying Design!!!!

So this info is the first reated info in relation to November 10, 2012 and will probably be updated in the future when its shows up again. Underlying themes will be added when they show up, aswell as every other rekated issue. That's how it works, so you can keep an eye on the timelines in order to see how this will develop.

The fact that May 4, 2011 shows up here again based on the very same Pi Design but from a different perspective, is an additional 'confirmation' of significance of this date, of which I already said it was a significant date in my previous update. I will monitor the given dates very carefully as I expect they will have to do with our 'awakenings process' , at least that's what the HDDesign 'research' seems to indicate.
 
I don't claim to predict the future, I do claim that we have to deal with specific issues or underlying themes at specific moments in our perception of time, that there are patterns that follow an Intelligent hidden underlying Design and that the correlations between orbitting elements of our solarsystems are also based on an intelligent Design ( 'as above, so below')

You don't have to worry about me not being a good father or husband, a positive side effect of this HDDesign 'research' is that it makes you a better person. Maybe it could help you.

No it couldn't. Your system is useless and merely a product of your delusions.
 
Don't call me a liar.
Then please don't lie to us.

all calculations are available in the material or even here in this thread! ask me specifically and I show you!
I've asked you, over and over and over again, to show us your calculations. You refuse every time.

have a little respect
When you respect us in turn, Dutch, and start answering questions, then maybe you'll get a little.
 
I thought I had nothing else to mention at this moment
You really would have been better remaining that way.


but this morning I wanted to find out more about the perihelion of comet 2009 HC82.
So you actually decided to find out something?


Dutch's website said:
I found the date of the expected perihelion and I just put it on the timeline this morning in order to log the date. I had no additional info when I logged it on the timeline Q4, 2012
Apparently you decided to do your 'research' by writing down a date.


the rest can't be posted here but you can find the post here:
Stop being so childish, you know full well that you can post a summary.


Orbit of 2009 HC82 is 3.39 * 365.25 = 1238,2 days
That might conceivably be considered interesting if you were using the latest data, which you aren't.

As of July 23 2010 NASA JPL has the orbital period at 1468.146174009244 days. You can even watch the orbit in their java animated diagram at that link.


I recommend to follow the postings on the timelines regularly.
Will we see one acknowledging your poor research and admitting that you are wrong?
 
I mean the 2 Pi points on the current orbit of 2009 HC82 that will reach a full orbit on November 10, 2012.
You do realise that anything that has made one full orbit is completing another one all the time, don't you?
 
there's a dedicated thread in the HDDesign material, you can find it here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about3-hddesign.html

Thank you, I'll look at this later.
If the detailing of this 'identification' of the Hariri assassination does not show up in the first few posts, depending on how long that dedicated thread is, I will be asking you for a link to a post containing this 'identification' of the Hariri assassination.
 
yes, haven't you read the posts about Mount st.Helens and Yellowstone?

I have explained that if you reverse the continental drift on a rotating closed sphere over an extended period of time, that mount St'Helens would be located to the East and to the South of its current position, at one point corresponding with the area of Yellowstone ( currently)

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6670150&postcount=3935
not at all. ask specifically and I will calculate it .

come on, ask it.
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So, I asked you specifically:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6672143&postcount=3950
I will ask you specifically to show the calculations for transforming a hyper dimensional platonic solid into geometrically determined orbital positions of an orbiting planet.
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and:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6677698&postcount=3966
Another one:

Please 'recalculate' the HD Cube spot near mount St. Helens for us.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6648023&postcount=3815
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Dutch, you insisted with:
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come on, ask it.
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Instead of providing calculations as you said you would, you knowingly returned a meaningless response.
And then you object against being called a liar?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6706742&postcount=3985
Don't call me a liar.
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How incredibly disingenuous of you.

Just as disgustingly disingenuous is the call to ask specifically about calculations, when in the post following you presented a meaningless response without presenting calculations, as asked by me on your specific request.
... all calculations are available in the material or even here in this thread! ask me specifically and I show you!
bolding by Daylightstar
After all that, in the same post you hypocritically dare to ask for respect:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6706742&postcount=3985
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have a little respect

You are already getting more respect than you deserve. You are not acting respectable at all.
 
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you are not going to discredit me earl. you may think of this what you want but don't call me a liar bacause I'm not
 
you are not going to discredit me earl. you may think of this what you want but don't call me a liar bacause I'm not

Quite clearly, you present yourself as such.

And then the below statement in this post:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6548149&postcount=3625
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i'm doing this 'research' with the highest moral conviction within my possibilities.
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There's a major discrepancy between what you wrote there and how you handle requests for explicit and detailed information.

But then again, you added a weasel statement: "within my possibilities".
Apparently your possibilities are not that extensive.

You discredit yourself, Dutch.
 
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you are not going to discredit me earl. you may think of this what you want but don't call me a liar bacause I'm not
It's quite simple Dutch: you don't need discrediting because you have no credibility to begin with and it is perfectly reasonable to describe your constant prevarication as lying.


Now, stop wasting time and do what you promised.
 
While I'm here...


Nothing to say about the completely inaccurate data you used to 'prove' your guesses about 2009 HC82?
 
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