Hyper Dimensional Design

[Daylightstar]

If you trully understand what I am doing, than you would know that all the things I do are are committed to increase our understanding of our reality and our own contribution to it. That's the only way to make it possible to create our 3D reality more subtle, so lives could be spared indeed

Unfortunately, these things you do, do not have the capacity to increase anyone's understanding of reality.
Nor do they have the capacity to save lives.
If you were to have actual knowledge of impending disaster, the right thing to do would be to inform the proper authorities. That could save lives.
You are too afraid to provide a bogus warning, since you do not appear to really have such knowledge. Your priority is not saving lives but weaseling out of looking stupid.

 

[Daylightstar]

Fortunately, it doesn't only depend on people like you. But even you are contributing to it, even if you aren't consciously aware of it

It appears that you ignored the "no one" part.
Otherwise you are further displaying lack of post content awareness.

 

[Daylightstar]

I think that is a fair request.

Dutch made two requests in that post, implicitly referring to an earlier request, which does not match either one of the two requests he made in the post you replied to.

Which request do you feel is fair, and why?

 

[Daylightstar]

It may amase you, but I agree with you

I don't know how it all works in a scientific way, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

You haven't yet shown there is an "it".

 

[Dutch]

'coincidenses' and 'confirmations'.
You having to place these words in quotes already indicate there is a problem with you using these words.
All constructed in your head.

The problem is with your rigid perspective yes

 

[Dutch]

Unfortunately, these things you do, do not have the capacity to increase anyone's understanding of reality.
Nor do they have the capacity to save lives.
If you were to have actual knowledge of impending disaster, the right thing to do would be to inform the proper authorities. That could save lives.
You are too afraid to provide a bogus warning, since you do not appear to really have such knowledge. Your priority is not saving lives but weaseling out of looking stupid.

We all have to live with our limitations, its all available for you to do something with it. its your choice to dismiss and ignore it. Its just a delay, you do have to face it sooner or later

 

[Dutch]

It appears that you ignored the "no one" part.
Otherwise you are further displaying lack of post content awareness.

talk for yourselves

 

[Daylightstar]

The problem is with your rigid perspective yes

I ask for proper documentation ....I get nothing. Nothing does....nothing.

 

[Daylightstar]

We all have to live with our limitations, its all available for you to do something with it. its your choice to dismiss and ignore it. Its just a delay, you do have to face it sooner or later

=0.

 

[Daylightstar]

talk for yourselves

It's still no one, Dutch.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Dutch made two requests in that post, implicitly referring to an earlier request, which does not match either one of the two requests he made in the post you replied to.

Which request do you feel is fair, and why?

Both not using his real name or details of his family. His requests not to do so should be sufficient reason. I don't see how such things are relevant to the discussion.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Hyper:

Existing in more than three dimensions

Dimesional:

A measure of spatial extent, especially width, height, or length.

Design:

To conceive or fashion in the mind; invent.


.... ok. So taking the actual pedantic meaning of the title of the thread I see no major issues with the first two points. But "conceiving or fashioning in the mind" requires:

a) A motive needed, or rather problem to solve, to give this process relevance.
b) Data supporting the invention proposed
c) Future predictions this new design has, to make to enable it to be a verifiable model.

 

[Daylightstar]

Both not using his real name or details of his family. His requests not to do so should be sufficient reason. I don't see how such things are relevant to the discussion.

You're talking about details Dutch himself provides without explicit request.

Since discussions of the apparently none existent 'technical side' of HDD are being obstructed by Dutch for many years already, social or environmental aspects of Dutch's believe are another line of inquiry especially when Dutch provides info relevant to that line of inquiry.

 

[Sideroxylon]

You're talking about details Dutch himself provides without explicit request.

Since discussions of the apparently none existent 'technical side' of HDD are being obstructed by Dutch for many years already, social or environmental aspects of Dutch's believe are another line of inquiry especially when Dutch provides info relevant to that line of inquiry.

To use an Australian colloquialism, "We are not playing for sheep stations" - meaning the stakes here are insignificant. I don't feel that raising his private life is necessary to analyse his claims, which are, lets face it, Dutch, patently ridiculous. While his personal life may offer an insight into his motives, again, it ain't that important.

He may have provided these details in the past but he clearly doesn't want them proliferated now and I think we should respect that.

Dutch, you may want to open a thread in forum management or send a PM to the moderation team for a ruling, or perhaps there is even something in the membership agreement.

 

[Blue Mountain]

[...] He may have provided these details in the past but he clearly doesn't want them proliferated now and I think we should respect that.

Dutch, you may want to open a thread in forum management or send a PM to the moderation team for a ruling, or perhaps there is even something in the membership agreement.

Membership Agreement here. Point 8 reads:

8. You may only post a Member's personal information if it is both publicly available and is relevant to the ongoing discussion.

It appears that the information may be publicly available, although as far as I know Dutch uses the handle "Dutch" on every forum he visits. I was not aware of his real name until Daylightstar posted it here.

I don't see how revealing Dutch's name is relevant to the discussion, which is examining his claims that HDD reveals secrets about the universe and has some predictive power for events here on Earth.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
I don't feel that raising his private life is necessary to analyse his claims, ...

Raising Dutch's private life is done by Dutch himself.
His private life, i.e. apparently his psychological state is the source of his HDD.
When he gives hints of, or info regarding this psychological state, they should be open to inquiry.
At least I think so, don't you?

 

[Daylightstar]

Membership Agreement here. Point 8 reads:

It appears that the information may be IS publicly available, although as far as I know Dutch uses the handle "Dutch" on every forum he visits. I was not aware of his real name until Daylightstar posted used it here.

I don't see how revealing Dutch's name is relevant to the discussion, which is examining his claims that HDD reveals secrets about the universe and has some predictive power for events here on Earth.

^{Strike through followed by bolded text by Daylightstar}
Dutch's screen name is indeed 'Dutch'. However, he would post private chat sessions on multiple sites with his apparently real first name explicitly attached to his screen name using an equals sign, also posting the apparent real first name of his chatbuddy.
Or he would post personal information including somewhat detailed medical information regarding his wife in a post he would sign with his real name. These are not actions by someone who doesn't want his real first name or personal stuff (he posts) to be publicly available.

So, where is the source of the discontent? Perhaps Dutch might explain this, I sincerely invite hime to do so.

Using his real name was done to address Dutch more directly, without any interest in using his apparent real name with the intent to reveal anything.
Dutch already did the revealing.

Posting stuff that is irrelevant for the discussion happens here all the time, mainly by Dutch. How about referring to non existent content on another site, or calling people pathetic in their face.

That you were not aware that Dutch had already revealed his apparent real first name is too bad. But now that you are informed about this and know his apparent real first name, how does this affect the way you treat Dutch, or his claims?

 

[Sideroxylon]

Raising Dutch's private life is done by Dutch himself.
His private life, i.e. apparently his psychological state is the source of his HDD.
When he gives hints of, or info regarding this psychological state, they should be open to inquiry.
At least I think so, don't you?

I think I have said it all. Anyway, lets end the derail. If he wishes, Dutch can get a moderation ruling by reporting any post he feels is in breach of point eight of the membership agreement.

 

[Daylightstar]

Well sure, same goes for me...and agreed.

 

[Mister Earl]

HDD is nothing more than pareolia (sure I'm spelling that one wrong), confirmation bias, and retroactive prediction. If it is, Dutch, you've never managed to show us otherwise. Nor have you particularly made any efforts to, at that. I don't even believe you're here to prove it's real, either. I think your sole purpose here is to funnel people to your own forums where you have the ability to crush dissenting views, retroactively alter your posts, and perform other blase' tricks. I believe that HDD is nothing more than taking your standard psychic and dressing it up and fancy psuedoscientific terms. It's been four or five years of the same thing, Dutch.