Hyper Dimensional Design

[Blue Mountain]

Why should it be replicable? Its like comparing a 3-dimensional experiment within a specific set of rules based on our current understanding of our 3D reality with an apparent inter-dimensional correlation that isn’t limited to this set of rules. You can’t force intuition to express the same way within a set of rules. There’s not even 1 rule you can apply when it comes to consciousness and intuition.

Because the goal of science, and most other human pursuits, is that actions can be repeated to produce desired results. Crops grow because we can plant seeds, but we have to time the planting carefully lest the cold of winter kill the crop once it comes out of the ground. That's why it's necessary to be able to set up a calendar (which requires research), and show that by following it you can achieve successful harvests year after year. Without being able to replicate results, pretty much any effort is useless.

So according your limited perspective of a good researcher I should dismiss this correlation with for instance phobos because it doesn’t show up with other moons?
You first have to demonstrate that the correlation has meaning. Our argument is that it has none.

 

[Blue Mountain]

I'm not 'looking' for intuitive thoughts or synchronicities, they just happen.

Isn't it beautiful to have this thought about Phobos and see it confirmed instantly?

Have you kept track of the number of times you've had an intuitive thought and not had it confirmed?

Blue.... you really have to expand the way you think. You want it to be easy but that's not how it works. Your rigid 3D perspective is useless.

Let's see, you're reading this on a thing called a computer, powered by something called electricity, connected to a thing called the internet that lets us have a conversation between Canada and The Netherlands in non-real time without having to send pieces of paper on two or three month long journeys across the ocean on boats.

I'd say my rigid 3D perspective is doing us very well at the moment.

I'm not wasting my time, you are ignoring the opportunities that are given to you.

If you were doing this as a hobby we probably wouldn't spend so much time engaging with you. Other hobbies such as stamp collecting, playing wargames, juggling, keeping fish, photography, or building model railroads are fascinating; but it can be argued that they are useless, because they usually don't materially advance society.

The very sad thing about your obsession with HDD is your conviction that it is useful and has applications outside your imagination.

There's no future for science without including consciousness and other dimensions.

Most sciences can get along quite nicely without taking into account consciousness and other dimensions.

 

[Daylightstar]

money I guess

Feeling unusually irrational?

No Dutch, an actual method, documented calculations, explanations and most of all actual answers. To start with.

 

[Paul]

As you refused to reply before and continue to claim the same nonsense, I thought I would repost this:

I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material.

The first problem is that you idea of expressing Pi is silly to begin with:

"In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together."

This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.

Are we just supposed to take your word for such a ludicrous claim?

As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial,

What in the name of Zod would give you that idea?

I had this thought earlier today to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.

Go on...

The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................

And of course you immediately run into a problem and proceed to fudge the numbers to pretend they are meaningful.

Pi is a precise number, it is not 3.1475174

Pi !!!!!!!!

No, not pi, not close to pi.

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098

No, not almost pi. Anyway you said that

"In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together."

Whereas what you did was multiply the timeframe twice by pi and then forget to do the subtraction and division. If you're going to not do science, at least don't do it according to your own rules.

This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

And there is the whole problem: you decided on an outcome and were not prepared to find fault with it, to the point of ignoring your own method and drawing obviously false conclusions.

In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute.

OK, so Phobos doesn't express pi, and you can't be bothered to learn enough to find out when it will but you expect others to do it for you.

What you have obviously failed to consider is that if the orbit is decaying, the point at which it 'expresses' pi will be as fleeting and meaningless as the point at which it expresses any other number.

 

[Daylightstar]

My current job is enough to finance my family, higher level than I used to have but irrelevant nevertheless. What's my level?

I'm interested in discovering the real truth behind our reality, couldn't find a paid job in that direction though....

This post of yours is internally inconsistent and does not tie in with the statements I showed you.
It suggests you do this knowingly.

 

[Dutch]

In the above, you demonstrated a "how": you took the period of the orbit of Steins asteroid and divided by Pi twice. But you utterly failed to explain why it was necessary to divide by Pi twice, as opposed to dividing by e or by Phi, and why twice rather than once or three times.

And you do it consistently. Sometimes you work with Pi, Sometimes Phi. Sometimes Earth days. Sometimes Venus years. Sometimes you add; other times you multiply or divide. Other times, who know what? But aside from your get-out-of-jail-free card of "intuitive thoughts," there is never any explanation given as to why you chose the constants and operations you used.

Once again you fail to read the material. I have specifically said that I used this Pi based design because I just identified it with the Deeep-Impact / epoxi - Moon Transit in relation to the scheduled comet encounters. I have posted about that here in this thread and the apparent 'communication' that is taking place with this deep Impact / epoxi mission. Be it consciously or sub-consciously ( NASA). This discovery was intuitively en instantly showed its validity when I applied it on Steins and Phobos, when I thought to do so

 

[Dutch]

The term you want to use is "study," not "research." It is you who is supposedly researching HDD, in a very disorganized and haphazard approach. "Study" implies that another person can go through the materials to glean an understanding of what you're doing. Unfortunately we can't, because every time we ask "Why was it done this way?" you dismiss the question and say, "Do it yourself!"

So why do you, for instance, completely disregard the Deep Impact/ epoxi - Moon transit than? is it because you can't read, just forgot or whatever?

If you call it study that's fine with me, just read the material.

 

[Dutch]

Because the goal of science, and most other human pursuits, is that actions can be repeated to produce desired results. Crops grow because we can plant seeds, but we have to time the planting carefully lest the cold of winter kill the crop once it comes out of the ground. That's why it's necessary to be able to set up a calendar (which requires research), and show that by following it you can achieve successful harvests year after year. Without being able to replicate results, pretty much any effort is useless.

Yes, that's a very good description of your limited 3D perspective of reality.

This HDesign material is about something else

 

[Dutch]

So according your limited perspective of a good researcher I should dismiss this correlation with for instance phobos because it doesn’t show up with other moons?
You first have to demonstrate that the correlation has meaning. Our argument is that it has none

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Yes ofcourse, that's why i want to know when Phobos will reach the perfect Pi expression, than the actual meaning becomes clear

 

[Dutch]

Have you kept track of the number of times you've had an intuitive thought and not had it confirmed?

I log everything realtime in the material

 

[Dutch]

The first problem is that you idea of expressing Pi is silly to begin with:

This is how it was expressed with the deep Impact/ epoxi mission.

Call it silly, but Pi was expressed unmistakenly, aswell as with Steins and Phobos

 

[The Man]

Yes, that's a very good description of your limited 3D perspective of reality.

This HDesign material is about something else

Indeed it is, your limited 1D perspective of reality, Dutch.

 

[The Man]

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Yes ofcourse, that's why i want to know when Phobos will reach the perfect Pi expression, than the actual meaning becomes clear

Dutch, “the actual meaning” is already quite clear, it has a decaying orbit.

 

[The Man]

I log everything realtime in the material

Fine, then give us a list of those intuitive thoughts that were not confirmed or some quantitative analysis of that data.

Logging “everything realtime” is useless, unless you can and actually do analyze the data it provides.

 

[Blue Mountain]

So why do you, for instance, completely disregard the Deep Impact/ epoxi - Moon transit than? is it because you can't read, just forgot or whatever?

Because I consider it unimportant. And I consider it unimportant because you have not convinced me that HDD has any useful application whatsoever. The two primary conclusions you have drawn so far from HDD ("Stay out of space" and "Don't mess with nuclear power") are both ridiculously and demonstrably incorrect.

If you call it study that's fine with me, just read the material.

You're making the claims, so it is up to you to present them in a coherent enough fashoin that we can follow them.

The material is almost impossible to to read because it's so disorganized. Key concepts are introduced without explanation. Important and unimportant material is agglomerated together along with useless commentary like "OMG!!" and "===> Communication <===". Reams of stuff are posted over and over again without detailed analysis. It is similar learning to drive by examining traffic accident scenes.

 

[Daylightstar]

I log everything realtime in the material

Not really.
you copy paste a lot stuff and decorate that with pretty words and sciency sounding sentences.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
Yes ofcourse, that's why i want to know when Phobos ...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6345048&postcount=3344

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I have contacted ESA directly and I truly hope something comes out of it.

Did ESA not get back to you yet?

 

[Daylightstar]

Dutch has no persuasive power whatsoever.

This has been made clear to him many many times, on different forums.
Yet, he makes no effort at all to change that.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Yes, that's a very good description of your limited 3D perspective of reality.

This HDesign material is about something else

A calendar has demonstrable utility. I am yet not convinced the same of HDD.

 

[Blue Mountain]

. Yes of course, that's why i want to know when Phobos will reach the perfect Pi expression, than the actual meaning becomes clear

I understand the idea that it it's sometimes necessary to wait for events to play themselves out before we can fully understand them. Do you have any ideas as to that might be revealed at the time Phobos reaches perfect Pi expression? Or will you simply take a gander through Google News looking for keywords related to space?