Hyper Dimensional Design

[Molinaro]

WOW!
Solar eclipses are 'confirming' the signifigance of Phi points!
A total solar eclipse is a spectacular natural phenomenon and many people travel to remote locations to observe one. The 1999 total eclipse in Europe helped to increase public awareness of the phenomenon, as illustrated by the number of journeys made specifically to witness the 2005 annular eclipse and the 2006 total eclipse. On July 22 2009, the next total solar eclipse will occur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse
Solar eclipses of August 11, 1999 and July 22, 2009 create a timeframe of 3634 days
Phi point is 3634 / Phi Golden Mean is 1.61803399 = 2246 days
Yes that's with Venus at same orbital position again indeed, 10 * 224.68 Earth days.
August 11, 1999 eclipse and Phi point on October 3, 2005 create a timeframe of 2246 days
at Phi point:
another Solar eclipse!
Solar eclipse of October 3, 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_2005_October_3
you might recognize this date back in 2005 as a few days after the 2005 Bali bombings. Earlier this week I wrote:
11 Venus years in Earth days
Venus at same orbital position during the Bali bombing of October 12, 2002 and last Friday's deadly attacks on two hotels in Jakarta.
Saturday, 18 July 2009
Fugitive linked to Jakarta blasts
Indonesian officials say there are "strong indications" a key wanted fugitive was behind Friday's deadly attacks on two hotels in Jakarta.
Noordin Mohamed Top is wanted for plotting the Bali bombings of 2002 and 2005 and other Indonesian attacks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8157104.stm
!!!

There are between 2 and 5 solar eclipses per year. During a span of 10 years that gives you aproximately 600 eclipse pairs to choose, to pick your number of days between being considered.

And we are suposed to think that one of those 600, random time intervals, is meaningfull?

Please explain why we should go, WOW, like you did, when the other 599 pairs would give a meaningless number of days -- meaningless to you I should say. All 600 are meaningless to the rest of us!

 

[Dutch]

What about all the solar eclipses that are not connected by Phi points?

When I became aware of this July 22, 2009 solar eclipse i had to think about the August 11, 1999 eclipse and thoughty Phi point would be interesting. indeed it is.

As you might have noticed, I have opened a seperate thread dedicated solely to eclipses in order to identify deeper hidden underlying Design.

I do learn by observation so these monitored events could unveil hidden underlying design. The August 11, 1999 pops up regularly in the HDDesign forinstance, by 'coincidence' of course.

I expect that continued minitoring of these eclipses and analysing of historical data would unveil additional hidden intelligent correlations that, in combination with events in our reality, are part of the 'communication'that is taking place.

In this specific case the Bali bombings, also 'confirmed' by Venus' orbital positions

 

[Dutch]

That means that it would be interesting to investigate these eclipses in more detail from a HDdesign poinyt of view

 

[Dutch]

There you go again with your "orbital position" nonsense. Just because an inner planet happens to be occupying the same position relative to the background stars when two events occur does not mean said inner planet is occupying the same position with respect the planet of interest. Hence we reject any attempt to link the two events.

Who said that the planet on interest is relevant?

You are confused again with astrology, look at these correlations as orbital harmonics as expressed in our solarsystem, NOT how it LOOKS like from Earth or whatever planet

 

[Dutch]

And even if the relative positions of the two planets were similar (conjunction, opposition, 90 degree angles, etc), there is no mechanism by which one planet could affect events on the other. HDD is an attempt to supply such a mechanism, but in our opinion the links have much more mundane explanations, namely, those provided by the more common logical fallacies.
I talk about reflection, not affect.

again, try to look at our solar system from a mathematical point of view from within so to speak.

A year on Earth is standard, so is a year or full orbit of Venus etc. these orbits are expressed in Earth days in order to unveil the hidden intelligent correlations in our reality as reflected in our solarsystem.

as above, so below

 

[Dutch]

Molinaro, I think I have already answered you question.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Who said that the planet on interest is relevant?

Maybe because that's where the events occurred?

You are confused again with astrology, look at these correlations as orbital harmonics as expressed in our solarsystem, NOT how it LOOKS like from Earth or whatever planet

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

[Paul]

When I became aware of this July 22, 2009 solar eclipse i had to think about the August 11, 1999 eclipse

Why?

and thoughty Phi point would be interesting.

Why?

As you might have noticed, I have opened a seperate thread dedicated solely to eclipses in order to identify deeper hidden underlying Design.

As you might have noticed, we don't pay much attention to the confused mass of guesswork, coincidence and really poor research you post on your own forum.

I do learn by observation

Your posting history would seem to indicate quite the opposite.

so these monitored events could unveil hidden underlying design.

They could, but there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this is the case.

The August 11, 1999 pops up regularly in the HDDesign forinstance, by 'coincidence' of course.

No, by you playing number games which result in dates you think are important appearing to be so.

I expect that continued minitoring of these eclipses and analysing of historical data would unveil additional hidden intelligent correlations that, in combination with events in our reality, are part of the 'communication'that is taking place.

You start that sentence by demonstrating one of the major problems with you work; you expect a result, do some parody of maths and science and obtain the result you were already expecting.

Then you mention the analysis of historical data, something you refuse to do or provide any evidence that you have done.

You then proceed with an assumption of intelligent influence and communication - apparently through the medium of various acts of mass murder - with not a jot of supporting evidence.

In this specific case the Bali bombings, also 'confirmed' by Venus' orbital positions

So, are the orbital positions here important or merely another device for associating events in a needlessly complicated way?

 

[Paul]

It really is quite difficult to answer a post that has no apparent reference to another post and no logical internal structure either.

there is no mechanism by which one planet could affect events on the other. HDD is an attempt to supply such a mechanism

So you are trying to do science? I suppose you'll claim it's all quite simple too.

but in our opinion the links have much more mundane explanations

I take it this has something to do with orbital positions and their apparent connection to mundane events.

namely, those provided by the more common logical fallacies.

You seem to be having a lot of problems with expressing any coherent thought lately, what on earth is that supposed to mean?

I talk about reflection, not affect.

Nonsense designed to obfuscate.

again, try to look at our solar system from a mathematical point of view from within so to speak.

Scientists do this all the time.

A year on Earth is standard, so is a year or full orbit of Venus etc.

Obviously, as the definition includes "the time in which any planet completes a revolution round the sun"

these orbits are expressed in Earth days in order to unveil the hidden intelligent correlations in our reality as reflected in our solarsystem.

This is where you display bias and poor understanding: you make the unfounded assumption the the earth is somehow special and deserving a place at the centre of events, which also dismisses any other astronomical body as unimportant, you refer the the magical hidden intelligence, and then add some meaningless contradiction at the end.

as above, so below

"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing"

Are you going to spout any more old mystical nonsense?

 

[Molinaro]

Molinaro, I think I have already answered you question.

Actualy Dutch, you don't even understand the meaning of the question and have not in fact answered it. You did say stuff, but that stuff is in no way an answer to the question that was asked.

You are picking individual samples out of a pool of hundreds if not thousands available and claiming eureka! When it is true that some meaningless relationship can always be found in a large enough sample of unrelated events.

Hence the, "Dutch is posting the news", quips that continualy appear in this thread.

You don't seem capable of understanding that when your pool of events under consideration is so vague, so self fullfilling, so common, that it is 100% possible to find any predetermined relationship that you go looking for.

I am also 100% certain that you will never understand that. If it was in any way possible for you to understand it, this thread would never have gotten this long. And you wouldn't be making exactly the same mistake in every single one of your postdictions.

 

[Broes]

"You are confused again with astrology, look at these correlations as orbital harmonics as expressed in our solarsystem"

Please inform my ignorant brain with the difference because of how I see it, both are the same, the latter is using just more fancy wording.

 

[Dutch]

I want to share some "as above - so below" indications that popped up this week while I was back at work again after a 3 weeks holiday.

One of the major underlying themes in this HDDesign 'research' is:

"stay out of space"

expressed in many different way in the HDDesign material.

On December 15, 1970 the Soviet spacecraft Venera 7 landed on the Venusian surface, it became the first man-made spacecraft to successfully land on another planet and to transmit data from there back to Earth.
Venera 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_7

This first landing on another planet is at Phi point between:

Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

and

July 19, 2009:

Mysterious bright spot found on Venus & impact on Jupiter
Amateur astronomer Frank Melillo of Holtsville, New York, first spotted the new feature, which is brighter than its surroundings at ultraviolet wavelengths, on the planet's southern hemisphere on 19 July. That same day, an amateur observer in Australia found a dark spot on Jupiter that had been caused by a meteoroid impact.

another "as above - so below" indication has to do with the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999.

yesterday I started to log my thoughts on this matter, I wrote:

Let's just give it a go

The August 18, 1999 Grand Cross alignment regularly pops up in this HDDesign 'research'.

Another interesting alignment happened on May 5, 2000:

from NASA:
The Planetary Alignment of 5 May 2000
On May 5, 2000 the planets Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn will be more or less positioned in a line with the Sun. Additionally, the Moon will be almost lined up between the Earth and Sun. Although this has led to many dire predictions of global catastrophes such as melting ice caps, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. there is absolutely no scientific basis for these claims. The distance to the planets is too great for their gravity, magnetic fields, radiation, etc. to have any discernible effect on Earth. In fact, we won't even be able to see this alignment, as all the planets will be on the opposite side of the Sun from the Earth.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/alignment.html

It has been on my mind for a long time that these alignments are somehow important.

Earlier this week I thought again about the Grand cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( which is also at Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macrolevel orientation ) and the May 5, 2000 alignment

as above , so below.....

marked in the heavens, expressed below

I thought Earth's orbital positions could create a Grand Cross.....

The orientation of the cross....

an August 18 and a May 5..... Give a June 26 and December 26 to create a Grand cross........

December 26....

First thought ofcourse: December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami

I thought to look at the timeframes between these orbital positions in order to find confirmation of signifigance.....to check the cross so to speak.

May 5, 2000 - December 26, 2004 Tsunami = 1.696 days
December 26, 2004 - August 18, 2009 = 1.696 days

This was the status yesterday

It kept nagging on me, I should find a confirmation for June 26....

above and below...

I decided to do a search and first thing that pops up:

"The year 2010 creates a grand cross of planets on a Holy Cross such as only occurs once in a Great Year cycle. Jupiter will be with Uranus at the spring equinox opposite Saturn at the fall equinox and these will be square again to the galactic and solstice axes.
In June the aspect is intensified by the transiting Sun passing opposite the Galactic Centre and on June 26 2010 a Full Moon opposite the Sun joins this amazing aspect around the Earth."

But that's not all........

This is similar in reversed form to the Tsunami aspects of December 2004

From: 2010 the Year of the Volcano
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17388684/2010-the-Year-of-the-Volcano

note that the expectations for HD Cube timeframe November 2010 in relation to mount St. Helens / Yellowstone are posted in the thread 'experimental stuff, the Venus connection'

and

Venus at same orbital position during December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake tsunami and the end of the Mayan Calendar, which is the same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times. 13 Venus years .

End of Mayan Calendar

December 23, 2012 - An alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun in the Long Count calendar, calculated using another version of the GMT correlation[9] which is supported by a few Mayanist researchers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012

So Venus is at the same orbital position during the December 26, 2004 Sumatra 9+ quake / tsunami as during the end of the Mayan Calendar.
Timeframe December 26, 2004 - December 23, 2012 = 2.920 days
13 Venus years in Earth days is 13 * 224.68 = 2.920 days

So June 26 and December 26 are 'creating' the axis of the Grand Cross orbital positions as explained.

I was wondering if June 26, 2010 could give somekind of 'confirmation' in the HDDesign 'research' in relation to the end of the Mayan Calendar.

and yes it does

very profound

Its the last 911 based Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron in the Design of our times!

June 26, 2010 Grand Cross - December 23, 2012 end of Mayan Calendar:

911 days!

That's one of the first identified basic elements in this HDDesign research, based on Hyper Dimensional ( platonic / Tetrahedron in this case )Geometry!

August 18, 2009 and June 26, 2010 are on the timelines already.

I will monitor these timeframes very carefully

 

[Paulhoff]

One of the major underlying themes in this HDDesign 'research' is:

"stay out of space"

No, this is Dutch not wanting to have people in space, not a magical design. Again, what did the dinosaurs do to have an asteroid wipe them out, because they didn’t go into space? And how about all the disasters before we did any type of space travel, what is with that Dutch, what magical things did we do then, I’m sure you’ll come up with some list.

Paul

 

[Paul]

I want to share some "as above - so below" indications

You do know that sounds like astrology, don't you?

One of the major underlying themes in this HDDesign 'research' is:

"stay out of space"

Then it is odd that you have been unable to provide any evidence that there is any particular reason that space should be avoided.

expressed in many different way in the HDDesign material

It has been pointed out many time that you have provided nothing to justify such a claim.

On December 15, 1970 the Soviet spacecraft Venera 7 landed on the Venusian surface,

Certainly no reason to stay out of space there.

This first landing on another planet is at Phi point between:

Tunguska event on June 30, 1908

and

July 19, 2009:

Mysterious bright spot found on Venus & impact on Jupiter

Another case of deciding to use a date because it fits; there is no reason to attach special importance to the spots based on their discovery date.

another "as above - so below" indication has to do with the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999.

Oooh, double astrology.

It has been on my mind for a long time that these alignments are somehow important.

Because it's not like NASA knows anything, is it?

which is also at Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macrolevel orientation

Do you think it's possible that you will ever explain what that really means?

as above , so below.....

marked in the heavens, expressed below

Meaningless expressions assuming the reality of astrology.

I thought Earth's orbital positions could create a Grand Cross.....

Then you though wrong didn't you. Do you even know what a grand cross is?

an August 18 and a May 5..... Give a June 26 and December 26 to create a Grand cross........

Admit it, you're just being extraordinarily silly now.

December 23, 2012 - An alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun in the Long Count calendar

Even when you're writing this level on nonsense, you can't use two dates for the end of the Mayan calendar.

 

[AWPrime]

This thread has past stupid, its now just so sad.

 

[Dutch]

This thread has past stupid, its now just so sad.

The Paul's can't help their rigid mindset, don't be harsh on them.

 

[Giggywig]

The Paul's can't help their rigid mindset, don't be harsh on them.

If you were more open minded you'd understand their criticisms.

 

[Dutch]

If you were more open minded you'd understand their criticisms.

I have no problem understanding them when I limit myself to the rational rigid mindset I used to have before I started to understand that intuition and synchronicities are opening doors.

One needs an open mind indeed.

 

[Paul]

I have no problem understanding them when I limit myself to the rational rigid mindset

As the 3 appropriate definitions from Princeton WordNet are:

(consistent with or based on or using reason)
(of or associated with or requiring the use of the mind)
(having its source in or being guided by the intellect (as distinguished from experience or emotion))
​

I believe that would generally be the correct mindset for a person to have.

What is not clear is why you would find that limiting or in some way undesirable.

I used to have before I started to understand that intuition and synchronicities are opening doors.

The problem is that intuition avoids intellectual consideration, and you don't know what synchronicity means.

One needs an open mind indeed.

But you seem to have forgotten the rest of that quote.

 

[Paulhoff]

One needs an open mind indeed.

You have confused a magical thinking mind for an open mind.

You never answer my questions, why, because they don't support your magic.

Again, what did the dinosaurs do to have an asteroid wipe them out, because they didn’t go into space? And how about all the disasters before we did any type of space travel, what is with that Dutch, what magical things did we do then, I’m sure you’ll come up with some list.

Let's see that open mind of yours.

Paul