Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

But you don't do astrology.

no

The Grand Cross is a concept of astrology, when you use it you are using astrology.

If astrology has nothing to do with HDD, neither does the grand cross.

 

[Giggywig]

your reply was way to short in notice to expect a serious thought on the matter

"The matter" deserves no serious thought. It's clearly just you desperately digging through news and playing with dates and numbers until you can find a pattern.

 

[AWPrime]

That would only be complementary if true, but I''m not into astrology bwcause I know nothink about it. If you see the correlations, than maybe it should make you think!

HDD is clearly a poor attempt at hiding astrology.

 

[Dutch]

So 'The King of Pop' Michael Jackson died on the eve of a Grand Cross orbital position, a June 25
so did Elvis Presley, The King of Rock 'n' Roll or The King, on August 16, 1977 on the eve Earth's orbital position during the Grand Cross alignment
The elements of HDdesign as described here are the 1111 days awakenings timeframe and Phi points.

Grand Cross orbital positions ( peak) August 18, 1977 ( The King of Rock 'n' Roll) - June 26, 2009 ( The King of Pop) :
11.635 days ( +/- 1 day as always)
or 4 times awakeningstimeframe of 1111 days
4444 days ( = Phi point )
+
4444 * 1.61803399 = 7.191
= 4444 + 7191 = 11.635 days
so this Phi-point at 4444 days should give 'confirmation'of the underlying themes of the Grand Cross
August 16-18, 1977 - October 16- 18, 1989 = 4444 days
October 17, 1989:
1989 Loma Prieta earthquake
The Loma Prieta earthquake, also known as the Quake of '89 and the World Series Quake, was a major earthquake that struck the San Francisco Bay Area of California on October 17, 1989 at 5:04 p.m. local time. Caused by a slip along the San Andreas Fault, the earthquake lasted approximately 15 seconds and measured 6.9 on the moment magnitude scale (surface-wave magnitude 7.1).[3] The quake killed 63[1] people throughout northern California, injured 3,757 people and left some 8,000[4] to 12,000 people homeless.[5]
The earthquake occurred during the warm-up for the third game of the 1989 World Series, coincidentally featuring both of the Bay Area's Major League Baseball teams, the Oakland Athletics and the San Francisco Giants. This was the first major earthquake in America to be broadcast on live television.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Prieta_earthquake
remember the 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami is marking the Grand Cross.
We are currently in the timeframe around August 18, another orbital position of the Grand Cross.
Today:
Quake strikes off Indonesian coast
JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- A 7.0-magnitude quake struck off the western coast of Indonesia's Sumatra Island on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey said.
No tsunami warning was immediately issued.
The quake was recorded in the Kepulauan Mentawai region, a chain of islands popular with surfers.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/16/indonesia.quake/index.html

 

[The Man]

So 'The King of Pop' Michael Jackson died on the eve of a Grand Cross orbital position, a June 25
so did Elvis Presley, The King of Rock 'n' Roll or The King, on August 16, 1977 on the eve Earth's orbital position during the Grand Cross alignment
The elements of HDdesign as described here are the 1111 days awakenings timeframe and Phi points.

Grand Cross orbital positions ( peak) August 18, 1977 ( The King of Rock 'n' Roll) - June 26, 2009 ( The King of Pop) :
11.635 days ( +/- 1 day as always)
or 4 times awakeningstimeframe of 1111 days
4444 days ( = Phi point )
+
4444 * 1.61803399 = 7.191
= 4444 + 7191 = 11.635 days
so this Phi-point at 4444 days should give 'confirmation'of the underlying themes of the Grand Cross
August 16-18, 1977 - October 16- 18, 1989 = 4444 days
October 17, 1989:
1989 Loma Prieta earthquake
The Loma Prieta earthquake, also known as the Quake of '89 and the World Series Quake, was a major earthquake that struck the San Francisco Bay Area of California on October 17, 1989 at 5:04 p.m. local time. Caused by a slip along the San Andreas Fault, the earthquake lasted approximately 15 seconds and measured 6.9 on the moment magnitude scale (surface-wave magnitude 7.1).[3] The quake killed 63[1] people throughout northern California, injured 3,757 people and left some 8,000[4] to 12,000 people homeless.[5]
The earthquake occurred during the warm-up for the third game of the 1989 World Series, coincidentally featuring both of the Bay Area's Major League Baseball teams, the Oakland Athletics and the San Francisco Giants. This was the first major earthquake in America to be broadcast on live television.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Prieta_earthquake
remember the 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami is marking the Grand Cross.
We are currently in the timeframe around August 18, another orbital position of the Grand Cross.
Today:
Quake strikes off Indonesian coast
JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- A 7.0-magnitude quake struck off the western coast of Indonesia's Sumatra Island on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey said.
No tsunami warning was immediately issued.
The quake was recorded in the Kepulauan Mentawai region, a chain of islands popular with surfers.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/16/indonesia.quake/index.html

Elvis Presley was pronounced dead at 13:30 Central daylight savings time on 8/16/1977. Michael Jackson was pronounced dead at 14:26 Pacific daylight saving time or 16:26 Central daylight savings time on 6/25/2009. That is 11636 days and about 2.9 hours. Even just the 911 call for Michael Jackson was at 12:21 Pacific daylight saving time or 14:22 Central daylight savings time on 6/25/2009. That is 11636 days and about 0.9 hours difference, both just outside your “( +/- 1 day as always)” 48 hour wide open window, just missed stuffing that one through your 48 hour wide open window Dutch. Where does this “1.61803399” multiplicative factor you are using come from anyway?

ETA: Oh, for more information on Dutch’s practice of astrology please see Grand Cross

 

[Paulhoff]

And the ex-President of the U.S.A. farts.

Paul

 

[Paul]

...Michael Jackson died on the eve of a Grand Cross orbital position, a June 25
so did Elvis Presley, The King of Rock 'n' Roll or The King, on August 16, 1977 on the eve Earth's orbital position during the Grand Cross alignment...
...Grand Cross orbital positions ( peak) August 18, 1977 ( The King of Rock 'n' Roll) - June 26, 2009 ( The King of Pop)

Where did you get these grand cross alignments from?

I used some astrology software to check for configurations and there were no grand crosses on those dates.

 

[Dutch]

Where did you get these grand cross alignments from?

I used some astrology software to check for configurations and there were no grand crosses on those dates.

I think you haven't read the info posted here about how this Grand cross is 'translated' into orbital positions. That's something completely different than astrology. If you don't event notice the difference, than I can imagine where you rremarks are coming from

 

[Dutch]

The Man: a +/- 1 day timeframe around a determined 'peak' date is 72 hours, but in the HDDesign 'research' its a 'peak' date as explained. The theoretical orbital positions of the Grand Cross as determined in this HDDesign material do match as given

 

[Paul]

I think you haven't read the info posted here about how this Grand cross is 'translated' into orbital positions. That's something completely different than astrology. If you don't event notice the difference, than I can imagine where you rremarks are coming from

I've said it several times before but it seems that you are having trouble with the basic information-

The Grand Cross is a concept from ASTROLOGY, you can't just appropriate the term and then change the meaning.​

The grand cross does not need translating into anything, especially any kind of translation that needs quote marks, it already concerns the positions of the planets.

What exactly do you do to the existing positions of the planets to make them fit your own special alignment?

 

[Paul]

The theoretical orbital positions of the Grand Cross as determined in this HDDesign material do match as given

The planets do not have theoretical positions in the past, they have actual known positions.

 

[The Man]

The Man: a +/- 1 day timeframe around a determined 'peak' date is 72 hours, but in the HDDesign 'research' its a 'peak' date as explained. The theoretical orbital positions of the Grand Cross as determined in this HDDesign material do match as given

So if it doesn't fit within your already broad 48 hour window, you just open that window a day further, but still call it "+/- 1 day timeframe". No answer to my question of where this “1.61803399” multiplicative factor you are using comes from? Also like Paul I am curious as how you determined these Grand Cross alignments and more specifically your “peak date” which apparently has the ability to turn 48 hours into 72 hours.

 

[dafydd]

I think you haven't read the info posted here about how this Grand cross is 'translated' into orbital positions. That's something completely different than astrology. If you don't event notice the difference, than I can imagine where you rremarks are coming from

We all know where your remarks are coming from!

 

[Broes]

Hyperdimensional...

I am still wondering why all the math of Dutch is just plain linear 1 dimensional gradschool mathmatics... Where is the ultra hyper super multidimensional math?
Why isnt curved spacetime involved but is Dutch still using oldstyle newtonian mechanics of planets orbiting at clockwork intervals around the sun?

Of course one can not think to grasp the universe's hidden structure by using 2nd grade math combined with numerology?

 

[Dutch]

I've said it several times before but it seems that you are having trouble with the basic information-

The Grand Cross is a concept from ASTROLOGY, you can't just appropriate the term and then change the meaning.​

The grand cross does not need translating into anything, especially any kind of translation that needs quote marks, it already concerns the positions of the planets.

What exactly do you do to the existing positions of the planets to make them fit your own special alignment?

I'm not changing anything. read again the posts about the 'as above - so below' interpretation of such a Grand Cross in orbital positions.

That's an element in this HDDesign 'research' and something completely different than the astrological grand cross alignment of August 18, 1999.

The thing in common is Earth´s orbital position.

 

[Dutch]

The planets do not have theoretical positions in the past, they have actual known positions.

again, I talk about orbital positions.

 

[AWPrime]

Use astrology is like failing, failing at astrology is epic fail. Thus epic fail = HDD.

 

[Dutch]

So if it doesn't fit within your already broad 48 hour window, you just open that window a day further, but still call it "+/- 1 day timeframe". No answer to my question of where this “1.61803399” multiplicative factor you are using comes from? Also like Paul I am curious as how you determined these Grand Cross alignments and more specifically your “peak date” which apparently has the ability to turn 48 hours into 72 hours.

I am using a timeframe of a day before and after a determined date ever since the beginning, so what´s your problem.I have regularly said that this 3 days timeframe is way to rigid and should be considered to be a ´peak´date. 1,618etc is the Golden Mean to determine Phi point.

I have never used 48 hours.

I haven´t determined the grand cross ALIGNMENT. that´s an astrological fact. I think you also don´t understand that I´m talking about Earth´s orbital positions as expleined in previous posts. You guys really don´t read

 

[Dutch]

Hyperdimensional...

I am still wondering why all the math of Dutch is just plain linear 1 dimensional gradschool mathmatics... Where is the ultra hyper super multidimensional math?
Why isnt curved spacetime involved but is Dutch still using oldstyle newtonian mechanics of planets orbiting at clockwork intervals around the sun?

Of course one can not think to grasp the universe's hidden structure by using 2nd grade math combined with numerology?

because the hidden underlying elements of HDDesign are in fact very simple. Orbital positions of the rotating elements in our solarsystem and their correlations

 

[The Man]

I am using a timeframe of a day before and after a determined date ever since the beginning, so what´s your problem.

Well that is a 48 hour time span, so what is your problem? Your “determined” date was 11635 days from 8/16/1977 13:30 Central daylight savings time. That is 6/24/2009 13:30 Central daylight savings time. Plus one day is 6/26/2009 13:30 Central daylight savings time, Michael Jackson was pronounced dead about 3 hours later.

I have regularly said that this 3 days timeframe is way to rigid and should be considered to be a ´peak´date.

So why not expand it to + - one week, just imagine all the news stories you could conflate then?

1,618etc is the Golden Mean to determine Phi point.

What does the golden ratio have to do with Phi, one would figure your Phi point might actually involve Phi in some way?

I have never used 48 hours.

Obviously not, so stop claiming +- one day unless you are actually going to hold to that limitation. If your are going to use a 72 hour window then say +- 36 hours or +- 1.5 days, heck go to +- a week, a month, a year or years for all we care, but hold to your own asserted limitations. The fact that you feel a 72 hr window “is way to rigid” only goes to show how much you already know that your dimensional design hype is crap.

I haven´t determined the grand cross ALIGNMENT. that´s an astrological fact. I think you also don´t understand that I´m talking about Earth´s orbital positions as expleined in previous posts. You guys really don´t read

So 'The King of Pop' Michael Jackson died on the eve of a Grand Cross orbital position, a June 25
so did Elvis Presley, The King of Rock 'n' Roll or The King, on August 16, 1977 on the eve Earth's orbital position during the Grand Cross alignment

*Bolding Added


Obviously you do not read what you write.

So in spite of what you claimed before…

I talk about geometrically determined orbital positions, I for one, know nothing about astrology so I can't help you nwith this. It wouldn't amaze me if astrology is hitting on the same underlying truth from a different kind of perspective though, but that's up to those who can verify

*bolding added

You are in fact relying on what you claim to be or apparently is known to you as “an astrological fact”.

ETA:
Oops sorry must have been confusing my Greek alphabet, the golden ratio is represented by Phi.