How Long Will the Impeachment Trial Last?

How long will the impeachment trial last?

  • One hour or less

    Votes: 8 14.0%
  • One day or less

    Votes: 16 28.1%
  • One week or less

    Votes: 11 19.3%
  • One month or less.

    Votes: 15 26.3%
  • It'll still be going on Planet X in 2219.

    Votes: 7 12.3%

  • Total voters
    57
I hope that Trump will become the first President to be impeached twice.

There is the current impeachment.

However, Trump has many other issues to deal which could result in future impeachment:

His immigrant family splitting policy,
His false charity work,
His false education work via his Trump University,
His payoff to Stormy Daniels and other women, and
His involvement with the Russians (this issue is still going on).
 
I also have to amend/adjust my original prediction (which I still stand behind as a 'most probably ballpark figure)

As with everything about this man anything Trump has any control over will continue based on how long it's the most effective way to troll people.

Trump's impeachment will last as long as it keeps Trump's enemies; real or perceived, angry and flustered.
 
I also have to amend/adjust my original prediction (which I still stand behind as a 'most probably ballpark figure)

As with everything about this man anything Trump has any control over will continue based on how long it's the most effective way to troll people.

Trump's impeachment will last as long as it keeps Trump's enemies; real or perceived, angry and flustered.

This assumes that the Senate has a vested interest in playing it out the way Trump wants. The Senators, right and left, are going to have their own preferences. It's they, not Trump, who control the pace of the trial.
 
This assumes that the Senate has a vested interest in playing it out the way Trump wants. The Senators, right and left, are going to have their own preferences. It's they, not Trump, who control the pace of the trial.

Trump controls them, McConnell especially. Distinction without difference.
 
How? What's the mechanism by which Trump controls McConnell? Bribes? Blackmail? The ballot?

Don't know, don't care, doesn't matter, not taking the conversation there.

McConnell has proven again and again he is incapable of standing up to Trump. He's openly admitted he's basically taking orders from Trump as to how the impeachment is going to go.
 
Evil Turtle is worried about his own job because his approval level has gotten pretty bad in his own state. However, he probably thinks that that's not because more people are more aware of how evil he is, but because he hasn't been evil enough.

I hope that Trump will become the first President to be impeached twice.

There is the current impeachment.

However, Trump has many other issues to deal which could result in future impeachment:

His immigrant family splitting policy,
His false charity work,
His false education work via his Trump University,
His payoff to Stormy Daniels and other women, and
His involvement with the Russians (this issue is still going on).
By impeaching on other stuff but not those, which they've been aware of longer, the controlling Democrats (primarily Pelosi) have already given all that other stuff the official "not impeachable offenses" stamp of approval.

And it's also either a massive tactical blunder or an outright tactical betrayal, depending on whether one explains Pelosi's history of constantly rolling over for the Republicans as incompetence or deliberate servitude. We know that the Republican establishment hates Trump and would like to have a way to get rid of him and stop his takeover of their party, but haven't seen a clear path to do so. What the Democrats should be doing is trying to find a way to help them with that (if they had any clue at all about the concept of strategizing instead of just walking straight ahead with no plan). And having more articles of impeachment would have helped, because it would have opened a path for the more scared Republicans in the Senate to vote no on most of of the articles but yes on just one and say "I was with him on most of this, and it's terrible that they did this to him on most counts, but there was just that one little thing that went too far". So naturally, of course, Pelosi went out of her way to make sure that that path would be unavailable to them.

Trump's going down in history as one of just a few impeached Presidents in American history, and his "opposition" is going down in history as the most useless, feckless excuse for an "opposition" in American history.

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One little aspect of the impeachment conversations has been fascinating in a way I didn't expect: the supply of people going to great hyperbolic extremes, even in otherwise perfectly well-reasoned posts, to wildly overstate how utterly, absolutely impossible it is for the Senate to convict. I can't think of any other subject on which I've seen so much pretense of such absolute certainty outside of religions, and not even usually in religions except when they're making a presuppositionalist argument. Yall have turned yourselves into the Sye Ten Bruggencates of politics!
 
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By impeaching on other stuff but not those, which they've been aware of longer, the controlling Democrats (primarily Pelosi) have already given all that other stuff the official "not impeachable offenses" stamp of approval.

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I disagree.
In all criminal cases that actually go to Court, Prosecutors will only pick the charges they think they have the clearest case of or which they hope a Jury will find most convincing.
In no way does this mean they consider the other offenses unimportant or harmless.

Democrats picked the issues that Republicans should support as a matter of Institutional Self-Interest.
 
I hope it lasts long and creates the impression among his base that Trump is a lifelong criminal.
They already know he is. They just don't care, and I realized the reason a few days ago. It's because they've literally spent their whole lives being trained & brainwashed into coming up with excuses for exactly his sort of behavior, practicing it every chance they get year after year starting before they even heard of him... because his behavior just coincidentally happens to be identical to the behavior of their God.
 
What I like about this poll is they forgot to add there is not going to be a trial. Something I didn't see coming. So anyone including me who guessed is probably wrong.
 
Evil Turtle is worried about his own job because his approval level has gotten pretty bad in his own state. However, he probably thinks that that's not because more people are more aware of how evil he is, but because he hasn't been evil enough.
He probably isn't wrong about that.
 
What I like about this poll is they forgot to add there is not going to be a trial. Something I didn't see coming. So anyone including me who guessed is probably wrong.

I suspect there will be a trial, just so conservatives and the President can crow 'WITCHHUNT! EXONERATED!'
 
I suspect there will be a trial, just so conservatives and the President can crow 'WITCHHUNT! EXONERATED!'
As far as I know, the procedure is that the House must hand-deliver the Articles to the Senate before a trial can be held.
When I started the poll, it simply didn't occur to me that impeaching but withholding the Articles could possibly be an option. It still makes no sense.
 
Republicans don't give a crap about procedures. The Constitution says the House holds the vote to Impeach, the Senate holds the vote to Convict. That's it. There's no further details.

The House has voted to Impeach. That event has occurred. It's has already gone to the Senate regardless of whether or not it's technically, officially, as per tradition gone to the Senate. If McConnell calls the vote right now, what's gonna stop him? A technically? This man is immune to facts, he doesn't even know what a technicality is unless he's using it.

Listen I want Trump gone as much as anyone but this whole "Well we haven't dotted the last i on the page and had the herald deliver it on the guilded horse yet so it doesn't count" isn't going to fly.

It either is going to come across as a dirty lawyer trick or actually is one, and if we just have to talk "narrative" another thing that makes it look the Democrats want to impeach Trump without impeaching Trump. Or it's gonna come across as them being too scared to cross a Rubicon they are already on the other side of.
 
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