How disrespectful can truthers be?

[ElMondoHummus]

Guys, at risk of getting the "What?!?" treatment from Drudge again , I gotta ask:

Is the second half of this thread really necessary?

I mean, all that's really happening is that Steve Austin gets to fire off questions about a point so insignificant we might as well roll out the recipes and cat pictures again. About the only thing it comes remotely close to accomplishing is to show that he's capable of asking questions that, if actually applied to 9/11 conspiracy fantasy, might reveal something to him about the veracity of truther claims. And that's a level of questioning we'd expect of anyone who's achieved a high-school level of education anyway, so it's not really accomplishing that much.

Maybe it's time to just let the tread diieeeeeeeee.

 

[A W Smith]

"Special Pleading

Also known as a "double standard", the Special Pleading logical fallacy involves referencing a rule or process, then suspending the rule when it doesn't suit your purpose."

Have you provided any proof yet that it was "truthers" that committed the vandalism? If not, have you admitted there is no proof and hence are accusing "truthers" without proof!

exactly. you accuse innocents of orchestrating a 911 government conspiracy with nothing more than god of the gaps logical fallacies junk science. and personal incredulity yet when debunkers accuse a truther of vandalising a memorial you plead for a more stringent standard of evidence. thank you. you have just demonstrated the special pleading logical fallacy along with the definition for all to see. lets see you get out of that corner you painted youself into steve-0

So I asked you to provide proof first but you refused (because you cannot), yet you ignore that and accuse me of "special pleading logical fallacy" without blinking at the irony that you committed this fallacy and not me.

Are you going to pull a "debunker" on me and continue to ask me for my proof while completely ignoring that you have no proof for your accusations? All while continuing your accusations!

The proof beyond resaonable doubt is the graffiti text itself. a truther did it, no one specific individual in particular but all physical evidence (the paint, the text) points to a truther. Now are you going to continue to be a vandal apologist?

 

[beachnut]

i answered that pages back Steve-0. try and keep up. we are not accusing a specific individual of vandalism.

But it is implied and comprehension is not required to be a spreader of delusions in the 911 who can make up the dumbest idea club.

If we had a specific individual we would identify him; no that is not my can of paint, my grandson did it!

True photo of actual vandalism is coming in ... PROOF! Big PROOF

Proof of vandalism. Posted with an one-eye cat patrolling for trolls.

I have to go sit in the hot tub and figure out the meaning of 102 degrees. But there was no disrespect in this act of vandalism but there was a covert action plotted by a 4 year-old.

 

[SteveAustin]

Evidence - an apology for vandalism.

Now you quibble about it and show support for vandalism by deflecting the blame to others; you even mention the evil government. Did they do it too? How many people do you throw suspicion on to protect the vandal truther? Cover-up? Do you now or have you ever carried your spray paint...
Why were you shouting?
Bring up the government when all else fails; the evil government; they did it; they made the truther do it! Why were you yelling?


Wait you finally after many posts.


Thread closed. Good job - did you drop the false flag delusion junk?

You also implied off topic that 19 terrorists were not responsible for 911. Did you mean to make that your next delusion. You implied there was no proof of 19 terrorists; but I know the seats and that they were in the cockpit and at the controls; do you have proof they were not!

This is disrespectful for you to imply there is no proof when president Obama agrees with me and said the 19 terrorists did it. Do you have proof or do you wish to remove this disrespectful delusion from your claims?

It is a lie to say there is no evidence or proof 19 terrorist carried out 911; that is more disrespectful to me than the vandalism. You vandalize what happen on 911 and apologize for terrorists by ignoring the evidence and making up your own lies about 911.

Again you have not provided any evidence for the accusations you have made against me. NONE

YOU ARE A LIAR AND YOU THROW FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE. THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN ON THIS THREAD AS YOU ACCUSED ME OF SEVERAL THINGS HERE YOU COULD NOT BACK UP, WHEN ASKED TO BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS YOU COME UP WITH NOTHING!

YOU ARE A LIAR, GO AWAY! YOU DID NOT PROVIDE ANYTHING TO BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF ME BUT CONTINUED TO PUT YOUR ACCUSATIONS FORWARD...

did you drop the false flag delusion junk?

Now you quibble about it and show support for vandalism by deflecting the blame to others

How many people do you throw suspicion on to protect the vandal truther?

This makes no sense, ARGUING OVER WHO COMMITTED A CRIME IS NOT SUPPORT FOR THAT CRIME!!! You know this but do not care as long as you can smear "truthers"

The rest of your post is more attempt to "riducule" and "smear", which is all simple "debunking" tactics, the easy ones

 

[Audible Click]

You seem to be cracking up. Perhaps a break from this discussion is in order.

 

[SteveAustin]

exactly. you accuse innocents of orchestrating a 911 government conspiracy with nothing more than god of the gaps logical fallacies junk science. and personal incredulity yet when debunkers accuse a truther of vandalising a memorial you plead for a more stringent standard of evidence. thank you. you have just demonstrated the special pleading logical fallacy along with the definition for all to see. lets see you get out of that corner you painted youself into steve-0

LOL buddy, you are dodging again and throwing up the smoke and mirrors in an attempt to hide the fact you are doing so. This is all off-topic but let's take a good look at it anyway...

you accuse innocents of orchestrating a 911 government conspiracy with nothing more than god of the gaps logical fallacies junk science

You have no idea what "evidence" I have or do not have but evidence that has been provided on the JREF forums that I have seen has been ignored anyway. So saying it's all logical fallacies junk science does not make it so.

and personal incredulity yet when debunkers accuse a truther of vandalising a memorial you plead for a more stringent standard of evidence.

"debunkers" demand proof, I am demanding proof, how is what I am asking for "a more stringent standard of evidence"? Answer is, it is not but you need to make it look like it is otherwise you look bad.

you have just demonstrated the special pleading logical fallacy along with the definition for all to see. lets see you get out of that corner you painted youself into steve-0

LOL, yes I have provided the definition of the special pleading logical fallacy for all to see. Have you provided any proof that "truthers" are responsible for the vandalism? What's that? NO? Have you even tried? What's that? NO? Yet you are demanding I prove what?

So you can continue not providing any proof while demanding proof for something off-topic from me? That is classic definition of "special pleading logical fallacy" but you will not admit that either will you?

The proof beyond resaonable doubt is the graffiti text itself. a truther did it, no one specific individual in particular but all physical evidence (the paint, the text) points to a truther. Now are you going to continue to be a vandal apologist?

the proof is the text itself? so you are saying that it is impossible for anyone not a "truther" to be able to write "9/11 was an inside job", impossible according to laws of physics and reality itself etc? Because that is what you are implying

 

[A W Smith]

Here's some old video of 911 truthers removing signs put up by a debunker at ground zero, caught on tape steve-0. do you remember this?
Listen carefully for the cacophony of lies spewed by this pair of truthers denying they removed the signs.

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I AGREE

 

[SteveAustin]

Here's some old video of 911 truthers removing signs put up by a debunker at ground zero, caught on tape steve-0. do you remember this?
Listen carefully for the cacophony of lies spewed by this pair of truthers denying they removed the signs.

Google Video This video is not hosted by the ISF, the ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

What has this got to do with the act of vandalism being discussed in this thread? How does this help prove that "truthers" were behind the vandalism discussed in this thread?

It doesn't! It was simply another dodge...good one

 

[A W Smith]

LOL buddy,

word salad snipped

your post makes absolutely no sense steve-0. Try to be concise. word salads posts of frustration don't cut it here. Chopped up and mismatched quotes don't help either. It does nothing to counter the clear and concise points I made with the original post above it.

 

[stateofgrace]

What has this got to do with the act of vandalism being discussed in this thread? How does this help prove that "truthers" were behind the vandalism discussed in this thread?

It doesn't! It was simply another dodge...good one

Do you actually condemn this act?

 

[A W Smith]

What has this got to do with the act of vandalism being discussed in this thread? How does this help prove that "truthers" were behind the vandalism discussed in this thread?

It doesn't! It was simply another dodge...good one

its not another dodge. Its another dunking of your head into your toilet of ignorance, truther Steve-0. Just another example of truther disrespect. That is what this thread is about Steve-0. examples of how disrespectful truthers can be.

 

[SteveAustin]

your post makes absolutely no sense steve-0. Try to be concise. word salads posts of frustration don't cut it here. Chopped up and mismatched quotes don't help either. It does nothing to counter the clear and concise points I made with the original post above it.

Nice dodge and smoke and mirrors (not really)

You made clear and concise points? what were those points? And how did my response NOT counter your "clear and concise points"?

 

[stateofgrace]

Do you actually condemn this act?

Steve?

 

[A W Smith]

Nice dodge and smoke and mirrors (not really)

You made clear and concise points? what were those points? And how did my response NOT counter your "clear and concise points"?

scroll back Steve-0 and re-read my previous posts. I will not dumb it down for you. Moving on Steve-0. as much as you would like to stall this thread back at page two. here's another example of disrespect from truthers

Germain Talis meets Maureen Lovetro

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1390

 

[SteveAustin]

its not another dodge. Its another dunking of your head into your toilet of ignorance, truther Steve-0. Just another example of truther disrespect. That is what this thread is about Steve-0. examples of how disrespectful truthers can be.

Dodge again and again and again. This thread is about how disrespectful truthers can be and that was put forward based on a 9/11 memorial that had been vandalised.

I challenged the assertion that it was "truthers" that vandalised that particular memorial and all I've gotten in response is dodges, off-topic demands and smoke and mirrors. No one has provided proof that it was "truthers" that vandalised the memorial. Oh I was also accused (again without proof) of supporting the vandalism.

So so far in this thread...which was started it seems simply to attack "truthers"... we have an unfounded accusation against "truthers" and unfounded accusations against myself.

Can anyone provide proof that the vandalism in question was committed by "truthers"? Can anyone provide proof of the accusations against me here in this thread?

I will repeat this because I know everyone will ignore or dodge it or throw up smoke and mirrors to try and hide behind...

Can anyone provide proof that the vandalism in question was committed by "truthers"? Can anyone provide proof of the accusations against me here in this thread?

 

[stateofgrace]

Do you actually condemn this act?

Again , Steve?

 

[SteveAustin]

Again , Steve?

So you are dodging my questions by asking what has been answered a long time ago! This is just more smoke and mirrors so you can avoid my questions...

Can anyone provide proof that the vandalism in question was committed by "truthers"? Can anyone provide proof of the accusations against me here in this thread?

 

[T.A.M.]

So you are dodging my questions by asking what has been answered a long time ago! This is just more smoke and mirrors so you can avoid my questions...

Can anyone provide proof that the vandalism in question was committed by "truthers"? Can anyone provide proof of the accusations against me here in this thread?

Listen Steve:

You are being disingenous. You know damn well that unless someone here has had a truther confess to them, or has a video of the perp committing the act, and then discovered he was a truther, that they cannot PROVE a truther did it.

You know godamn well that it is a LOGICAL assumption, but not proof (we are not a court of law here), that given the words/expression that was put on the memorial, that it was LIKELY a believer in the truth movement that performed the vandalism.

You also know that it is silliness to think that the truth movement is so important as to warrant someone defiling a sacred memorial in order to make them look bad.

So what else do you want.

Go on now and tell some of your buddies you pwned me, cause I told you I couldn't prove it...go on now!!! go!!!

TAM

 

[A W Smith]

@ 2:25 into this google video. An African Muslim confronts truthers shouting over bullhorns at family, friends, visitors paying respect and survivors visiting at ground zero on the anniversary of 9/11. Citing disrespect

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I AGREE

 

[stateofgrace]

So you are dodging my questions by asking what has been answered a long time ago! This is just more smoke and mirrors so you can avoid my questions...

Can anyone provide proof that the vandalism in question was committed by "truthers"? Can anyone provide proof of the accusations against me here in this thread?

I have not posted in this thread until now and I asked you one simple question. Here it is again.

Do you actually condemn this act?

Please try to answer, rather than ranting on.