Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 3

And I do believe it. I also think the GOP will continue to trip over themselves to justify or rationalize his behavior up until he does something so egregious that his fan base might think about turning against him. They don't need to actually turn, but if Trump feels threatened with the loss of admiration I think he'll do something truly stupid.

Hard to imagine something dumber than insulting the physically disabled and a gold star family, but here we are....

Giving a Medal of Freedom to someone who claimed Michael J. Fox was faking his MS symptoms? But wait! There's more!

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies." (Source)

"Everything in Africa's called AIDS. The reason is they get aid money for it. AIDS is the biggest pile of, the biggest pot they throw money into." (Source)

Responding to a caller who said black people should have a greater voice on issues: "They are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?" (Source)

On Barack Obama, during the 2008 election: "A veritable rookie whose only chance of winning is that he's black."

"If any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it's Caucasians. The white race has probably had fewer slaves and for a briefer period of time than any other in the history of the world ... And yet white guilt is still one of the dominating factors in American politics. It's exploited, it's played upon, it is promoted, used, and it's unnecessary." (Source)

"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society." (Source)

"Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud." (Source)


"Women still live longer than men because their lives are easier." (Source)

I'm a huge supporter of women. What I'm not is a supporter of liberalism. Feminism is what I oppose, and feminism has led women astray. I love women. I don't know where all this got started. I love the women's movement, especially when walking behind it." (Source)

"When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it's an invitation." (Source)

On Beyoncé: "She's married to a rich guy ... She now understands it's worth it to bow down." (Source)

On Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown law student who testified before Congress about the importance of health insurance covering birth control: "What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex — what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute." (Source)

On Hurricane Irma: "You can accomplish a lot just by creating fear and panic. You don't need a hurricane to hit anywhere. All you need is to create the fear and panic accompanied by talk that climate change is causing hurricanes to become more frequent and bigger and more dangerous, and you create the panic, and it's mission accomplished, agenda advanced." [Limbaugh later evacuated his Florida home because of the hurricane.]

On the Central American migrant caravan heading toward the U.S. in 2018: "The objective is to dilute and eventually eliminate or erase what is known as the distinct or unique American culture ... This is why people call this an invasion."
 
To be fair to Zig, I see where he was going with that,


and maybe some of us took him a bit too seriously.
 
To be fair to Zig, I see where he was going with that,


and maybe some of us took him a bit too seriously.

I'm just going to agree that some people took him a bit too seriously and that where he was going with it was pretty obvious. With that said, Zig has said plenty of things worth taking issue with, but not everything he's said is such. This is one of the things that's just dumb to take issue with, I think. To address the Yevgeny issue further, though... Yevgeny being kicked out is bad, but it's also just part of the seriously not normal usual workings of this administration. The kind which can probably reasonably be described as the Trump administration's continual sabotage of the US government that's been going on from the beginning.
 
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To be fair to Zig, I see where he was going with that,


and maybe some of us took him a bit too seriously.

I've been interacting with Zig for well over a decade now, maybe approaching two. If there is one thing he's made abundantly clear, it's that you do not interpret what he says. You do not make inferences. You do not make implications. If you do so, he declares that you are wrong, missed the point, and, often, are some variation of the word "stupid". (He often does that anyway, but this is a surefire route.)

So, no. This is not taking him too seriously. This is a consequence of his style of making arguments. This is why I didn't ask general questions like "who is he?" or "why was he fired?". Instead, I asked specific questions like "who do you think he is?" and "why do you think being a twin is significant to him being fired?"

As an aside, Zig made a point that it wasn't just significant that they were related but that they were twins. I'm not sure how that is supposed to have made a difference.
 
It seems the "I'm going to speak in code so and never clarify so everyone has to guess at what I'm actually saying and call all their guess hyperbolic strawmen" is the new black.
 
I'm having to read a lot into your explanation to make any logical sense of it...and not succeeding.

What you're basically saying is the Yevgeny had to be fired

No. There is no "had to be fired" involved. The question was why he was fired, not why or even if he had to be.
 
But a lot of them do. Turn the handle on the box marked " Petty, Vindictive Pathological Liar/Emotionally Stunted Extreme Narcissist" and Trump springs out.

People not fitting into neat little boxes wasn't in reference to Trump, it was in reference to me. I'm not in the least bit surprised you missed that fact.
 
As an aside, Zig made a point that it wasn't just significant that they were related but that they were twins. I'm not sure how that is supposed to have made a difference.


Twins are mentally identical, so he was just as much of a traitor as his brother?
Twins are telepathically linked, so there was a danger of him mentally leaking information to his traitor brother?
Twins are loyal to each other above all else, and loyalty to Trump has to be #1?
 
Watching people never clarify what they are saying and acting like it's our fault is my new favorite thing.
 
Twins are mentally identical, so he was just as much of a traitor as his brother?
Twins are telepathically linked, so there was a danger of him mentally leaking information to his traitor brother?
Twins are loyal to each other above all else, and loyalty to Trump has to be #1?

Any of these will do because, get this, it was a joke. Is that not clear yet? You could even throw in some additional ones, like Trump can't tell them apart.
 
Any of these will do because, get this, it was a joke. Is that not clear yet? You could even throw in some additional ones, like Trump can't tell them apart.

Perhaps it's time to reflect on what it means when people can't tell the difference between what you say seriously and your jokes.
 
Perhaps it's time to reflect on what it means when people can't tell the difference between what you say seriously and your jokes.

"Poe's Law must never be allowed to reach a point of saturation where it is taken to be a celebration of the Poes." - Me, just now.
 
Perhaps it's time to reflect on what it means when people can't tell the difference between what you say seriously and your jokes.

When I tell people it's a joke and they still don't know it's a joke, that's not on me.
 
Perhaps it's time to reflect on what it means when people can't tell the difference between what you say seriously and your jokes.

Also, perhaps, if absolutely everybody else tells you that your joke isn't funny then perhaps it's not absolutely everybody else's sense of humour that's out of wack?
 
Also, perhaps, if absolutely everybody else tells you that your joke isn't funny then perhaps it's not absolutely everybody else's sense of humour that's out of wack?

This has already been addressed.

No, it's not even a good joke. But the objections to it all consist of complaining that I didn't say out loud the part that everyone complaining already thinks. If you got it but didn't think it was funny, that's one thing. Hell, even the Nielsen joke depends on the delivery to really work, and I can't provide anything like that on an internet forum. But the fact that you couldn't even get it, well, that really is on you.

Does nobody pay any attention? Once again, if you just didn't think it was funny, that's fine. I know it's not a particularly good joke, I'm not trying to argue otherwise. But the problem here isn't that people didn't think it was funny. That was not the complaint.
 

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