Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 3

JoeMorgue said:
So Senator Marsha Blackburn was reading a book during the impeachment proceedings.

Senator Richard Burr was handing out fidget spinners to other Republicans because they were so "bored."

Guys... I'm not sure, but the Republicans might not be taking this seriously.
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Despite it being against the rules to leave your seat during proceedings, up to 21 Republican Senators left the room entirely during the Democrat's presentations, often for hours at a time. One of them (I forget which off the top of my head) went and did an interview on Fox News while he was supposed to be in his seat. Another simply went to sleep.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
For a guy who definitely doesn’t know Lev Parnas,
@realDonaldTrump
sure has a lengthy conversation with the guy on a range of topics in this 2018 audio.
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https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1221170441668190215?s=20
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This is really hilarious. I know Parnas looks like a dope, but man I love this guy. He brought the goods. Pence said he didn't know him. It seems every time you turn around some Republican is denying knowing him and Parnas then provides the evidence.
 
To be fair, the idea that Donald Trump could hold a conversation with someone and walk away not knowing who that person was or not remembering that person's role in the conversation doesn't seem implausible. He is both narcissistic and delusional. There's no particular reason to believe that he has actual awareness of who he is talking to at all times.

And if he just happens to demand firing an ambassador during that conversation, for most people that would be a pretty big deal and strong evidence that they were actually engaged in that conversation as a serious matter, but for Trump it could just be an impulsive outburst forgotten before dessert. He obviously didn't act on his own demand that Yovanovitch be fired at the time, so it's quite possible that he just forgot, and no one reminded him. A year later, the subject came up again and this time she was actually fired.
 
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I made sure to tune in to a program which I think often gives the greatest insight into how the public is perceiving important political current affairs. The program I'm referring to is the cold open of Saturday Night Live. It is often the case that you can see which side is most worthy of ridicule from their treatment.

If SNL is a bellwether, things are going pretty good for the Democrats.


For those not wanting to look it up, the skit featured Alan Dershowitz, along with McConnell et. al. discussing the progress of the trial with Satan, who was a fan of their work.

ETA: On the other hand, the ones that really show that one side or the other is worthy of ridicule are the ones that are actually funny. I wouldn't describe last night's cold open as one of the good ones.
 
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I was watching the cold open I referred to at Planet Fitness. The TV showing NBC at the gym is right next to the one with Fox News. Against my better judgement, I flipped over to it. (I almost never watch either Fox News or CNN. Neither is the least bit informative.)

As might be expected, they were going full bore* attack on "Biden family corruption". What I really found irritating about it is that, of course, they went beyond the possibility of anything remotely related to government, and got into Hunter's personal life. Apparently he got a stripper pregnant, or something. I really don't care. However, I thought it bizarre that someone defending Trump would try to cast aspersions on anyone based on their sexual relations with strippers. How can they keep a straight face when they do it?

The country is truly mad.

*Both senses of the word.
 
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Meadmaker said:
To be fair, the idea that Donald Trump could hold a conversation with someone and walk away not knowing who that person was or not remembering that person's role in the conversation doesn't seem implausible. He is both narcissistic and delusional. There's no particular reason to believe that he has actual awareness of who he is talking to at all times.

And if he just happens to demand firing an ambassador during that conversation, for most people that would be a pretty big deal and strong evidence that they were actually engaged in that conversation as a serious matter, but for Trump it could just be an impulsive outburst forgotten before dessert. He obviously didn't act on his own demand that Yovanovitch be fired at the time, so it's quite possible that he just forgot, and no one reminded him. A year later, the subject came up again and this time she was actually fired.
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Your point is reasonable. I mean he has said he didn't know people he had sex with and even paid more than a $100,000 to not talk about it.

There's a point though where the denials become ridiculous.

The real question is why would you believe anything Trump says?
 
I suspect that the reason the Republicans are going second is for precisely that kind of reason - the Democrats don't have a rebuttal to anything they say.

Not quite sure how the whole "Senators' questions" process works. Perhaps they can get that point across there.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Sounds like he talked to a lot of real winners that hour. I don't think it is fair to say that from this he knew Parnas.
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Ummm ... If he didn't really know parnas, then why exactly would he get into discussions about foreign policy with someone there he didn't know? Sounds like a big security problem to me.

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
https://twitter.com/extraface/status/1221154727666298880
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Segnosaur said:
Ummm ... If he didn't really know parnas, then why exactly would he get into discussions about foreign policy with someone there he didn't know? Sounds like a big security problem to me.

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Her has had multiple security violations. Even of he did know Parnas, he is demonstrating the same lack of awareness by having that conversation in front of other donors.
 
Segnosaur said:
Ummm ... If he didn't really know parnas, then why exactly would he get into discussions about foreign policy with someone there he didn't know? Sounds like a big security problem to me.
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Because Trump is a moron who can't resist talking about himself.

Did he know Lev Parnas? Probably. On the other hand, the tape is made with a bunch of donors. Who knows whether Trump had any more knowledge of Lev than "one of those guys I have to talk to because they give a lot of money."

My intention isn't to defend Trump, as such. I just look at this as one more "gotcha!" moment. Since he got into the race in 2015, he's been handing "gotchas" to the media day after day. He's a master of distraction, and his opponents in politics and the press fall for it every time.

I don't care if he knew Lev Parnas, and the fact that he's lying about this is no worse than his general propensity toward lying. There's no gotcha there.
 
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